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Matt Agnew - Bachelor Australia - Season 7 - Discussion

leavers wrote:
Genevieve Australia wrote:
Vjeff wrote:

Apologies, thought the quote was Matt's. Regardless, I do find it bitter and passive aggressive to add so many happy photos to a breakup post when the breakup obviously was not amicable as she was liking every negative comment in there. Seemed like a guilt trip to me, JMO of course.


I agree, @Vjeff it is weird to me to see that. Had I been Chelsea, the last thing I would have done is  to announce my break-up uploading a set of photos of a so-called 'love story' that didn't work; add to that the fact that  she is liking all those messages about Matt.... no idea  scratch Obviously, she is entitled to feel that way; that may be her way to deal with pain, but IMO it is imprudent to do what she is doing. I remember that during the show Chelsea expressed negative opinions about her exes but she forgot that all her exes have something in common: they dated her, and she doesn't seem to have talked positively about any of her ex, IMO that is a bit strange. I am always cautious when contestants go to TV and blame their exes for their past experiences because the exes are not there to  refute those accusations and the contestants never seem to acknowledge the part they played in their break up so how do we know that what they say is true and not an exaggeration or just lies? In any story there are always two sides and most of the time -not always- the truth lies somewhere in between. It seems to me that by liking those posts Chelsie is solely blaming Matt. Who knows what really happened there! question no idea All JMO


I'm generally #teamChelsie in this breakup, but you raise some very good points that I've always thought about this show. On 1-on-1s, they encourage trauma disclosure as a way to "open up"; an inability to share traumatic stories from your past is a shortcut to being a problematic contestant who "can't open up" (the other way to "open up" is to prematurely tell the lead you're "starting to fall in love with them"Suspect ). It IMO leads to one-sided stories that involve other people who aren't there to defend themselves or tell their side of the story.  

During the airing of the show, on the dates when Chelsie was talking about her past relationships there were lots of twitter comments from people wanting Chelsie to name and shame her exes. I've always thought it pretty distasteful and also unnecessary that these people who have nothing to do with the show are brought up in this way as an unsuspecting plot point when, as you say, they might have a very different story.  There are loads of ways to "open up" without talking about your parents' divorce, your exes, or whatever imo.  Share hopes and dreams for the future, or just banter about other interesting stuff, or something like that, instead.  Who talks on a real-life first date about all the poop that's happened in their life without coming across as kinda sad and desperate? "Don't talk about your exes" is like, rule number one.

Anyways its an integral part of the show, but it's never sat right with me personally (the same way involving family/friends in hometowns and MTP has never really sat right with me either).


Yes to all this @leavers. I have always felt that revealing too much about the past (not just on the show but in general) makes the exes vulnerably to bullying, especially during a TV show, because people idealise contestants and blindly believe in them. IMO that is very dangerous. Since I am a very private person (I have a Facebook, but I rarely update my status and I don't really upload many photos), I use social media to sporadically spread positive stuff yet I rarely post/repost things. As you can imagine, I never talk about relationships (everyone who knows me know that my husband and are are perfect together, anyway) or politics. On Facebook and Instagram I go to visit the Bachelor/Bachelorette page and never comment, I don't even click 'like' on posts because I don't want my friends to see my activity in their Facebook feed. That is how I am and that is why I cannot really relate to Chelsie's oversharing. People who are more open and like to share everything with their friends, as some of my friends are, may not see issues with Chelsie's behaviour but I cannot lie, that attitude is, IMO, unhealthy and one of the things that I did not like about her. Chelsie seems nice but I don't care for her, yet I wish her the best.
by Genevieve Australia
on Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:29 pm
 
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Matt Agnew - Bachelor Australia - Season 7 - Discussion

Genevieve Australia wrote:
Vjeff wrote:

Apologies, thought the quote was Matt's. Regardless, I do find it bitter and passive aggressive to add so many happy photos to a breakup post when the breakup obviously was not amicable as she was liking every negative comment in there. Seemed like a guilt trip to me, JMO of course.


I agree, @Vjeff it is weird to me to see that. Had I been Chelsea, the last thing I would have done is  to announce my break-up uploading a set of photos of a so-called 'love story' that didn't work; add to that the fact that  she is liking all those messages about Matt.... no idea  scratch Obviously, she is entitled to feel that way; that may be her way to deal with pain, but IMO it is imprudent to do what she is doing. I remember that during the show Chelsea expressed negative opinions about her exes but she forgot that all her exes have something in common: they dated her, and she doesn't seem to have talked positively about any of her ex, IMO that is a bit strange. I am always cautious when contestants go to TV and blame their exes for their past experiences because the exes are not there to  refute those accusations and the contestants never seem to acknowledge the part they played in their break up so how do we know that what they say is true and not an exaggeration or just lies? In any story there are always two sides and most of the time -not always- the truth lies somewhere in between. It seems to me that by liking those posts Chelsie is solely blaming Matt. Who knows what really happened there! question no idea All JMO


I'm generally #teamChelsie in this breakup, but you raise some very good points that I've always thought about this show. On 1-on-1s, they encourage trauma disclosure as a way to "open up"; an inability to share traumatic stories from your past is a shortcut to being a problematic contestant who "can't open up" (the other way to "open up" is to prematurely tell the lead you're "starting to fall in love with them"Suspect ). It IMO leads to one-sided stories that involve other people who aren't there to defend themselves or tell their side of the story.

During the airing of the show, on the dates when Chelsie was talking about her past relationships there were lots of twitter comments from people wanting Chelsie to name and shame her exes. I've always thought it pretty distasteful and also unnecessary that these people who have nothing to do with the show are brought up in this way as an unsuspecting plot point when, as you say, they might have a very different story. There are loads of ways to "open up" without talking about your parents' divorce, your exes, or whatever imo. Share hopes and dreams for the future, or just banter about other interesting stuff, or something like that, instead. Who talks on a real-life first date about all the poop that's happened in their life without coming across as kinda sad and desperate? "Don't talk about your exes" is like, rule number one.

Anyways its an integral part of the show, but it's never sat right with me personally (the same way involving family/friends in hometowns and MTP has never really sat right with me either).
by leavers
on Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:04 am
 
Search in: Bachelor - Bachelorette International - Former Contestants - Discussion
Topic: Matt Agnew - Bachelor Australia - Season 7 - Discussion
Replies: 451
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