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Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #7

lleyki wrote:
ReneeM wrote:As someone who actually watches the shows Kenny was on and actually followed the situation, I'd like to point out that it never went to trial and they were never convicted of anything. The other side of the story is that the accuser was/is a very unstable person mentally, MTV settled to make it go away quickly because no matter what they would look bad (either they had sexual assaulters on the show, or knowingly put an unstable woman in that type of environment) and per the settlement Kenny nor the other guy were legally allowed to speak about it publicly. Other cast members who were there have questioned her story, some have outright said she's lying. Personally I've always thought Kenny was an a-hole but I have no clue if he actually did this. All this to say we don't know what happened there and speaking things as facts when there are so few actual facts is irresponsible IMO.

As someone who also watched the show and followed the story, I personally don't buy nothing happened. Yes Tonya was/is unstable and yes, the Kenny/Evan/Johnny sychophants on the challenge accused her of lying. But it should be noted that the lawsuit came about because other people there told Tonya what happened as she was passed out and some of the people defending Kenny and Evan didn't say nothing happened but used the, "it was just some fratboy hijinks" excuse.

And yeah maybe MTV settling quickly doesn't prove absolute guilt but they then went as far as to permanently ban Kenny and Evan from the show, even if Tonya herself has never been back on. Yet CT violently attacked Adam, it was all caught on camera, some cast members actually complained about him being dangerous and not wanting to be on the show with him and they brought CT back. Yet nothing happened and Evan and Kenny were permanently banned from the show when by all accounts they, along with Bananas, were quite popular.

The fact is the Challenge does create a situation ripe for something like this. It is a known fact that a lot of drinking and drug use happens. It's more than likely Kenny and Evan themselves were drunk and Tonya was seen as the nutjob who would sleep with anyone. Not to mention they were the "popular" guys on the Challenge. Ironic that some referred to it as fratboy hijinks because I think that kind of situation is exactly the type of thing that would happen at a frat where alcohol, drug use and testosterone is high. People probably sat around, including some women themselves and thought what Kenny and Evan were doing was funny because it was just "messing around" and it's Tonya after all, nutty and slutty Tonya, so who cares? In my opinion of course.

She said that but who are the people that told her? She never said and neither did they. Sarah and Susie (other cast members who were both r*ped in their past outside of the show) shared a room with her at the time and after the alleged incident stayed friends with Kenny and Evan (Susie tweeted out a link to this article to sarah with the #teamkennyforever as recently as this past june https://twitter.com/susie_meister/status/740637399496032257). Also Kenny liked an IG post years ago saying that banned was the wrong word it was more that MTV would open themselves to further lawsuits and insurance premiums by having them back on the challenge. Kenny hosted an official challenge aftershow on mtv AFTER the incident happened, so mtv didn't cut all ties. I never said nothing happened, just that we don't know what did happen. People can be unstable and still be telling the truth about r*pe and on the other hand, people can be d-bags without being rapists. I don't know what happened. Just that the only actual facts are she filed a lawsuit and MTV settled. Anything/everything else is conjecture. The point is moot anyways because this is Andi's thread and she said they aren't dating.