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Bachelor In Paradise - Season 2 - Episode Discussions - #3 Sleuthing - Spoilers

chasingpavements wrote:There's so much lying going on, it's hard to keep track. About stupid things too, like the whole facetiming with Julia and her daughter. I think that Julia has exaggerated the truth in the past (like how Joe knew about Ireland when he really just knew that she had a boy or a girl or when she said that Joe picked her out of everybody, even though she asked him out), but it never seems malicious or on purpose. It's like she just really remembered things differently, because she was SO into him. Sammi, on the other hand, has a history of lying and has been caught red-handed. And, she lied about things that could be PROVEN! So, yeah, when it comes to the whole FT-ing with Julia/daughter and the permission conversation, I'm going to take Julia's side here.

nikikass wrote:I am confused over Juelia saying that they went on vacation together with Samantha. Did I dream that?

Samantha made it seem they were just acquaintances and not close.

That was disheartening if that was not the case and Sam belittled their relationship to justify her actions.

Juelia is not the innocent party in all of this. I do feel bad for her though.

Personally I think they are all "batshit crazy"

Regarding Juelia & Samantha's friendship, I did some sleuthing on this and what I found I think supports Juelia's version of reality. On Juelia's Instagram there were obviously a lot of photos taken of them together when they were on the Bachelor, but there was also one taken in Miami with Amber and 3 other women I don't recognize, which would be the vacation since I don't think they went to Miami on Chris's season.

And then Juelia posted this photo https://instagram.com/p/zIXuSjzYdl/ with a Happy birthday message for Samantha:

"jueliakinney: Happiest birthday to this beauty!!!! I hope it's the best yet! #thebachelor #sisterwives #thoseeyestho #bachelornation can't wait to see you soon!"

... to which Samantha replied: "samanthasteffen_aw i love you!!!! thank u so much for the best voicemail EVER from u & ireland today!!! see you soon!"

To me those sound like the kinds of things that reasonably close friends would say to each other; maybe not BFF's but definitely more than acquaintances. And if Juelia left a VM for Sam with Ireland it wouldn't be that much of a stretch that she also facetimed with her daughter.

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Bachelor In Paradise - Season 2 - Episode Discussions - #3 *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Bachelor In Paradise - Season 2 - Episode Discussions - #3 Sleuthing - Spoilers