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Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - Spoilers - Sleuthing - Discussion #5

isittrue wrote:I actually think the overwhelming fan support and the painting him as this perfect person by some while ripping apart Shawn and Kait is what started to turn me off. The guy is human, he is capable of mistakes too. I still think he is as capable of the rest of them of stirring the pot and acting immature. ***snipped***

:Nod:

Last year I actually got really into #teamnick train because of the huge criticism he was receiving ... this year I notice Shawn is getting more heat - on this forum, not on SM - so I see change of "tides" ...

also, I've read around and seen comments about "Nick's fans painting him as a saint who can't do no wrong". :halo:

(nope)

I would like to state, that there are plenty of fans who see Nick's mistakes, we even acknowledge them, but in the abundance of negativity he is receiving (mostly still related to last year "performance") - and this time it's more on SM, since this sweet heaven brought more "confident"

members out to voice their support - we prefer to explain his actions, defend his right and view things from another angle, positive one. No need to

when there's already enough of those who "shoot darts" at him. :winkie:

The whole "beauty" for me watching/following Nick is ... seeing him making the mistakes ... and then mend the situation, get out of the mess, learn something from it, exculpate for whatever wrongdoing ... that's my personal enjoyment to see him RISE AFTER the FALL.

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@brittnynathanHey @nick_viall28, nice meeting you #windycitysmokeout #chitown
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@juleehamilton Somebody call tmz, our fav is at Windy City Smokeout. #teamnick #wcsmokeout

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Paparazzi'ing Nick #thebachelorette #ireland #heh #sexmidseason

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Nick Viall Bachelorette 11 - Fan Forum - SLEUTHING - SPOILERS - Thread #15

notarose wrote:Chris Viall's Twitter:
We're very proud of our son, The Other Guy. It's an old family name. #TheBachelorette #teamnick

The Other Guy
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386588/

... and we know Nick is a big Will Ferrell fan...

Love this! Nick has such a great family :Nod:

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sdmom wrote:That's a great cause! Does this mean Nick was watching with her group? He didn't live tweet tonight. I thought he was distancing himself from K.

He was at a house viewing party which was a pediatric cancer fundraising event.

I don't think he is distancing himself from the show at all. IMO he is having a great time as he is encouraging people to watch and referring to the show oodles more than last season.
I mean the show just gets more hilarious with ever epi. This latest could rival "Dumb & Dumber", "Stepbrothers", ... pick your poison. Kaitlyn is challenging Amy S's "Trainwreck"
It's completely bonkers

and chalk full of all kinds of faux stuff.

Chris Viall's Twitter:
We're very proud of our son, The Other Guy. It's an old family name. #TheBachelorette #teamnick

The Other Guy
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386588/

... and we know Nick is a big Will Ferrell fan...

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happygolucky wrote:

Here's the caption:

gloss_by_jaci_rubenNew shoot with Nick Vaill from Bachelorette last night. Who needs Magic Mike when we've got this hottie!!! #bachelor #bachelornation #abc #bachelorette #teamnick #notmyteambutalwaysteamnick www.glossphotographystudios.com @nick_viall28

Love the who needs magic Mike?

I have to say the beard is working for him, he was cute before, but I really like the beard.

Hope he didn't spill any of that coffee (the the second pic HGL posted) or he's gonna be sorry he had his pants unbuttoned.

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Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - Spoilers - Sleuthing - Discussion #5

SueSt wrote:
MonicaJM2001 wrote:
TopShelf wrote:I'm feeling bad that there is a fan forum for Shawn and Kaitlyn and none for Nick and Kaitlyn. Although I realize if it existed, I'd be the only one there.

You wouldn't be the only one there, there would be at least 2 of us! I will always be TeamNick!

I will always be #teamnick too!!

I wondered why I couldn't find a fan forum for Nick. I thought I was looking in the wrong place. :cutesmile!:

Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - Spoilers - Sleuthing - Discussion #5

MonicaJM2001 wrote:
TopShelf wrote:I'm feeling bad that there is a fan forum for Shawn and Kaitlyn and none for Nick and Kaitlyn. Although I realize if it existed, I'd be the only one there.

You wouldn't be the only one there, there would be at least 2 of us! I will always be TeamNick!

I will always be #teamnick too!!

Nick Viall Bachelorette 11 - Fan Forum - SLEUTHING - SPOILERS - Thread #14

SueSt wrote:
notarose wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Interesting observation AAL.
He's certainly not the typical meathead!

I do think overseas viewers are culturally different therefore many have a different view of Nick. The same thing happened with Arie.

Nick's latest tweet was in reference to this:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102777294

He faved JJ & Mike G tweets that reference it.
He has also now taken a stand against what he is interpreting as Andi Dorfman's Twitter behavior - cyber-bullying. You can check that out in his Twitter favs as well.
I'm not surprised as his sister Sara is obviously distraught about this as well.
On June 22, Sara tweeted:
I thought you were happy and moved on.......#TheBachelorette #getoverit #ifyoudonthavesomethingnicetosaydontsayitatall #youryearisover

[ltr]This will be polarizing. IMO, cyber bullying is offensive. If Nick has chosen to bring the issue into debate by using his own situation as the vehicle I support it. It just isn't enough to casually talk the issue when it effects so many people from different walks of life - teens, public figures, ordinary people who are targeted by faceless trolls. The only way to spur a paradigm shift is to be an activist that isn't afraid to stand front and centre. HE is a well known target of cyber attacks. I don't really care what is "correct" in terms of "a show". Cyber bullying is a RL issue and is more important than the storm that surely will erupt. [/ltr]

My clarity is that Nick is using his 16 minutes of fame to highlight bigger societal issues. Same sex marriage, feminism, cyber bullying.
It's not about fans, it's about how a person uses the spotlight.
He's not a meathead.

Again, I'm glad Nick is standing up for what he believes. Not useful IMO to run and hide from the larger issues!
Thanks also NR for highlighting Sara's tweet. I'm actually glad #teamnick confronted SWSNBN with the facts. LOVE #youryearisover!!! hahahahaha
I'll have to go and favor her tweet!

IMO a greater issue here is that Nick is one of the inherent role models to younger siblings and nieces/nephews. As the targeted one, it serves well for him to speak out rather than give the bullies the illusion of power. Any one of the Vaill youngsters may, at some point in their schooling, be similarly targeted or perhaps, sadly, may already be the target of peer taunting due to Nick being on a TV show. Him speaking up lets them know it is an option in this type of situation. It also speaks to a select group that don't believe in 2nd chances but that's a different issue.
Most people who go on the show are not fan favs. They just have a following of a reasonably small number of people tweeting niceties. The issue at hand is when someone is villianized for the purpose of entertainment and how that stirs those who reside in Hades to act in way that they wouldn't want their own children acted upon. I'm beyond understanding their mindset - better to just let them be what they've become and instead focus on how to create a kinder society that says "no" to bullies

Elan has a great outlook regardless of what he intended:
http://iconosquare.com/viewer.php#/detail/1015982801591432097_4379315

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notarose wrote:
SueSt wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:Okay so this is a strange question: but are a lot of fans of Nick not American? Because it seems like a lot of fans of his in this thread are from overseas or have traveled or have a global-world view. I wonder if that has something to do with why the type of person Nick is doesn't resonate as much with the viewers of this show? He is definitely not the typical American guy that goes on this show, imo.

Interesting observation AAL.
He's certainly not the typical meathead!

I do think overseas viewers are culturally different therefore many have a different view of Nick. The same thing happened with Arie.

Nick's latest tweet was in reference to this:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102777294

He faved JJ & Mike G tweets that reference it.
He has also now taken a stand against what he is interpreting as Andi Dorfman's Twitter behavior - cyber-bullying. You can check that out in his Twitter favs as well.
I'm not surprised as his sister Sara is obviously distraught about this as well.
On June 22, Sara tweeted:
I thought you were happy and moved on.......#TheBachelorette #getoverit #ifyoudonthavesomethingnicetosaydontsayitatall #youryearisover

[ltr]This will be polarizing. IMO, cyber bullying is offensive. If Nick has chosen to bring the issue into debate by using his own situation as the vehicle I support it. It just isn't enough to casually talk the issue when it effects so many people from different walks of life - teens, public figures, ordinary people who are targeted by faceless trolls. The only way to spur a paradigm shift is to be an activist that isn't afraid to stand front and centre. HE is a well known target of cyber attacks. I don't really care what is "correct" in terms of "a show". Cyber bullying is a RL issue and is more important than the storm that surely will erupt. [/ltr]

My clarity is that Nick is using his 16 minutes of fame to highlight bigger societal issues. Same sex marriage, feminism, cyber bullying.
It's not about fans, it's about how a person uses the spotlight.
He's not a meathead.

Again, I'm glad Nick is standing up for what he believes. Not useful IMO to run and hide from the larger issues!
Thanks also NR for highlighting Sara's tweet. I'm actually glad #teamnick confronted SWSNBN with the facts. LOVE #youryearisover!!! hahahahaha
I'll have to go and favor her tweet!

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notarose wrote:
happygolucky wrote:I like the article too ... recently I've seen a tweet of one actress that was very mean spirited towards Nick and his 2nd round on the Bachelorette and I've fought the urge to respond... I've let it go, since "pot meet kettle" idiom just wouldn't suffice. In the last year there has been an incredible increase in Feminism talk and still, often I find the statements that these famous/known people make completely missing the point. Very superficial and ignorant. At the same time they want us, the public, to give them credit and they expect the sympathy/empathy.
Being a Nick's supporter is harder on us, IMO, because the negativity on SM is almost making you feel like you need to excuse your preference/POV/opinion ... your taste. And we don't need to. We don't need to justify it or fight for it. We don't even need to argument it and not because there wouldn't be enough arguments/proof to disclose. What goes around comes around. I'm completely OK with being on #teamnick and if the majority isn't **edited** ... in Nick's style, I respond: That makes it so much more special. Like an invitation to a hush-hush party. (PG rated)

This feels like "members-only" private club.
And since usually it's all about the gentlemen (since ATFR "we" are banned there) ... this one is special, because it is all about the Ladies!

Élan has a message to the bolded
http://theyearofelan.tumblr.com/post/121765021436/an-open-letter-to-trolls-and-those who are not fans

Wow, way to go Elan. Nick is fine, I think in some ways he has gotten to the point of being able to laugh of the those who are not fans and just see that they see what they want and it isn't on him it is on them that they hate so much.

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happygolucky wrote:I like the article too ... recently I've seen a tweet of one actress that was very mean spirited towards Nick and his 2nd round on the Bachelorette and I've fought the urge to respond... I've let it go, since "pot meet kettle" idiom just wouldn't suffice. In the last year there has been an incredible increase in Feminism talk and still, often I find the statements that these famous/known people make completely missing the point. Very superficial and ignorant. At the same time they want us, the public, to give them credit and they expect the sympathy/empathy.
Being a Nick's supporter is harder on us, IMO, because the negativity on SM is almost making you feel like you need to excuse your preference/POV/opinion ... your taste. And we don't need to. We don't need to justify it or fight for it. We don't even need to argument it and not because there wouldn't be enough arguments/proof to disclose. What goes around comes around. I'm completely OK with being on #teamnick and if the majority isn't **edited** ... in Nick's style, I respond: That makes it so much more special. Like an invitation to a hush-hush party. (PG rated)

This feels like "members-only" private club.
And since usually it's all about the gentlemen (since ATFR "we" are banned there) ... this one is special, because it is all about the Ladies!

Élan has a message to the bolded
http://theyearofelan.tumblr.com/post/121765021436/an-open-letter-to-trolls-and-those who are not fans

Nick Viall Bachelorette 11 - Fan Forum - SLEUTHING - SPOILERS - Thread #14

I like the article too ... recently I've seen a tweet of one actress that was very mean spirited towards Nick and his 2nd round on the Bachelorette and I've fought the urge to respond... I've let it go, since "pot meet kettle" idiom just wouldn't suffice. In the last year there has been an incredible increase in Feminism talk and still, often I find the statements that these famous/known people make completely missing the point. Very superficial and ignorant. At the same time they want us, the public, to give them credit and they expect the sympathy/empathy.
Being a Nick's supporter is harder on us, IMO, because the negativity on SM is almost making you feel like you need to excuse your preference/POV/opinion ... your taste. And we don't need to. We don't need to justify it or fight for it. We don't even need to argument it and not because there wouldn't be enough arguments/proof to disclose. What goes around comes around. I'm completely OK with being on #teamnick and if the majority isn't **edited**... in Nick's style, I respond: That makes it so much more special. Like an invitation to a hush-hush party. (PG rated)

This feels like "members-only" private club.
And since usually it's all about the gentlemen (since ATFR "we" are banned there) ... this one is special, because it is all about the Ladies!