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Nick Viall Bachelorette 11 - Fan Forum - ***SLEUTHING - SPOILERS*** - Thread #14

SueSt wrote:
notarose wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Interesting observation AAL.
He's certainly not the typical meathead!  giggling


:yes:  I do think overseas viewers are culturally different therefore many have a different view of Nick.  The same thing happened with Arie. 

Nick's latest tweet was in reference to this:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102777294

He faved JJ & Mike G tweets that reference it. 
He has also now taken a stand against what he is interpreting as Andi Dorfman's Twitter behavior - cyber-bullying.  You can check that out in his Twitter favs as well. 
I'm not surprised as his sister Sara is obviously distraught about this as well.
On June 22, Sara tweeted:
I thought you were happy and moved on.......#TheBachelorette #getoverit #ifyoudonthavesomethingnicetosaydontsayitatall #youryearisover

[ltr]This will be polarizing.  IMO, cyber bullying is offensive.  If Nick has chosen to bring the issue into debate by using his own situation as the vehicle I support it. It just isn't enough to casually talk the issue when it effects so many people from different walks of life - teens, public figures, ordinary people who are targeted by faceless trolls.  The only way to spur a paradigm shift is to be an activist that isn't afraid to stand front and centre.  HE is a well known target of cyber attacks. I don't really care what is "correct" in terms of "a show".  Cyber bullying is a RL issue and is more important than the storm that surely will erupt. [/ltr]








My clarity is that Nick is using his 16 minutes of fame to highlight bigger societal issues.  Same sex marriage, feminism, cyber bullying. 
It's not about fans, it's about how a person uses the spotlight.
He's not a meathead.


Again, I'm glad Nick is standing up for what he believes.  Not useful IMO to run and hide from the larger issues!  
Thanks also NR for highlighting Sara's tweet.  I'm actually glad #teamnick confronted SWSNBN with the facts.  LOVE #youryearisover!!! hahahahaha
I'll have to go and favor her tweet!  giggling


IMO a greater issue here is that Nick is one of the inherent role models to younger siblings and nieces/nephews. As the targeted one, it serves well for him to speak out rather than give the bullies the illusion of power.  Any one of the Vaill youngsters may, at some point in their schooling, be similarly targeted or perhaps, sadly, may already be the target of peer taunting due to Nick being on a TV show.  Him speaking up lets them know it is an option in this type of situation. It also speaks to a select group that don't believe in 2nd chances but that's a different issue.  
Most people who go on the show are not fan favs.  They just have a following of a reasonably small number of people tweeting niceties.  The issue at hand is when someone is villianized for the purpose of entertainment and how that stirs those who reside in Hades to act in way that they wouldn't want their own children acted upon. I'm beyond understanding their mindset - better to just let them be what they've become and instead focus on how to create a kinder society that says "no" to bullies Smiley

Elan has a great outlook regardless of what he intended:
http://iconosquare.com/viewer.php#/detail/1015982801591432097_4379315
by notarose
on Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:00 pm
 
Search in: Nick Viall Bachelorette Season 10-11 - Fan Forum
Topic: Nick Viall Bachelorette 11 - Fan Forum - ***SLEUTHING - SPOILERS*** - Thread #14
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Nick Viall Bachelorette 11 - Fan Forum - ***SLEUTHING - SPOILERS*** - Thread #14

notarose wrote:
SueSt wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:Okay so this is a strange question: but are a lot of fans of Nick not American? Because it seems like a lot of fans of his in this thread are from overseas or have traveled or have a global-world view. I wonder if that has something to do with why the type of person Nick is doesn't resonate as much with the viewers of this show? He is definitely not the typical American guy that goes on this show, imo.

Interesting observation AAL.
He's certainly not the typical meathead!  giggling


:yes:  I do think overseas viewers are culturally different therefore many have a different view of Nick.  The same thing happened with Arie. 

Nick's latest tweet was in reference to this:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102777294

He faved JJ & Mike G tweets that reference it. 
He has also now taken a stand against what he is interpreting as Andi Dorfman's Twitter behavior - cyber-bullying.  You can check that out in his Twitter favs as well. 
I'm not surprised as his sister Sara is obviously distraught about this as well.
On June 22, Sara tweeted:
I thought you were happy and moved on.......#TheBachelorette #getoverit #ifyoudonthavesomethingnicetosaydontsayitatall #youryearisover

[ltr]This will be polarizing.  IMO, cyber bullying is offensive.  If Nick has chosen to bring the issue into debate by using his own situation as the vehicle I support it. It just isn't enough to casually talk the issue when it effects so many people from different walks of life - teens, public figures, ordinary people who are targeted by faceless trolls.  The only way to spur a paradigm shift is to be an activist that isn't afraid to stand front and centre.  HE is a well known target of cyber attacks. I don't really care what is "correct" in terms of "a show".  Cyber bullying is a RL issue and is more important than the storm that surely will erupt. [/ltr]


My clarity is that Nick is using his 16 minutes of fame to highlight bigger societal issues.  Same sex marriage, feminism, cyber bullying. 
It's not about fans, it's about how a person uses the spotlight.
He's not a meathead.


Again, I'm glad Nick is standing up for what he believes. Not useful IMO to run and hide from the larger issues!
Thanks also NR for highlighting Sara's tweet. I'm actually glad #teamnick confronted SWSNBN with the facts. LOVE #youryearisover!!! hahahahaha
I'll have to go and favor her tweet! giggling
by SueSt
on Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:08 pm
 
Search in: Nick Viall Bachelorette Season 10-11 - Fan Forum
Topic: Nick Viall Bachelorette 11 - Fan Forum - ***SLEUTHING - SPOILERS*** - Thread #14
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Nick Viall Bachelorette 11 - Fan Forum - ***SLEUTHING - SPOILERS*** - Thread #14

SueSt wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:Okay so this is a strange question: but are a lot of fans of Nick not American? Because it seems like a lot of fans of his in this thread are from overseas or have traveled or have a global-world view. I wonder if that has something to do with why the type of person Nick is doesn't resonate as much with the viewers of this show? He is definitely not the typical American guy that goes on this show, imo.

Interesting observation AAL.
He's certainly not the typical meathead!  giggling


:yes:  I do think overseas viewers are culturally different therefore many have a different view of Nick.  The same thing happened with Arie. 

Nick's latest tweet was in reference to this:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102777294

He faved JJ & Mike G tweets that reference it. 
He has also now taken a stand against what he is interpreting as Andi Dorfman's Twitter behavior - cyber-bullying.  You can check that out in his Twitter favs as well. 
I'm not surprised as his sister Sara is obviously distraught about this as well.
On June 22, Sara tweeted:
I thought you were happy and moved on.......#TheBachelorette #getoverit #ifyoudonthavesomethingnicetosaydontsayitatall #youryearisover

[ltr]This will be polarizing.  IMO, cyber bullying is offensive.  If Nick has chosen to bring the issue into debate by using his own situation as the vehicle I support it. It just isn't enough to casually talk the issue when it effects so many people from different walks of life - teens, public figures, ordinary people who are targeted by faceless trolls.  The only way to spur a paradigm shift is to be an activist that isn't afraid to stand front and centre.  HE is a well known target of cyber attacks. I don't really care what is "correct" in terms of "a show".  Cyber bullying is a RL issue and is more important than the storm that surely will erupt. [/ltr]

My clarity is that Nick is using his 16 minutes of fame to highlight bigger societal issues.  Same sex marriage, feminism, cyber bullying. 
It's not about fans, it's about how a person uses the spotlight.
He's not a meathead.
by notarose
on Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:43 pm
 
Search in: Nick Viall Bachelorette Season 10-11 - Fan Forum
Topic: Nick Viall Bachelorette 11 - Fan Forum - ***SLEUTHING - SPOILERS*** - Thread #14
Replies: 916
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