Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #4

Clearly RS was foiled. If he was foiled about the ending, IMO there's more, like from epi 7 on, more.

IMO I can't come to any reasonable explanation on how Nick could be the sex guy, considering what we know of K and Shawn's relationship right from the limo exit.

GuardianAngel wrote:Clearly RS was foiled. If he was foiled about the ending, IMO there's more, like from epi 7 on, more.

IMO I can't come to any reasonable explanation on how Nick could be the sex guy, considering what we know of K and Shawn's relationship right from the limo exit.

That is what I am also struggling with. K keeps saying post filming she doesn't regret the sex just the timing. So since it is now indisputable Shawn is F1, I would think she'd take a different tune on "regret" if pre-sex guy is anyone other than him. Plus there is that preview of Shawn at her door and she has a mischievious look on her face. That being said, Nick could still be the pre-FS sex guy, their date may go very very well to where they uh don't want it to end........ I am just not going to take it for certain just because RS says it in lieu of the bad info he has already been given.

GuardianAngel wrote:Clearly RS was foiled. If he was foiled about the ending, IMO there's more, like from epi 7 on, more.

IMO I can't come to any reasonable explanation on how Nick could be the sex guy, considering what we know of K and Shawn's relationship right from the limo exit.

I don't see it any different that Ben knowing it was Courtney from day one, but still having sex with the other two girls. According to Courtney, he even told Nikki about losing his faith after his father's death and they cried together knowing that their difference in faith meant they couldn't be together. If we had seen a scene like that, wouldn't we all be like "omg, how can he have sex with another woman two days after"? But, he did!

I think that Nick/Kaitlyn's scenes were just limited to kissing and the drama with the guys, so we all forgot that she was pretty smitten by him last week. I've never seen her that giddy and shy (until this week with Shawn). I'm sure those feelings will resurface on their 1-on-1.

IA cp, I'm watching the epi now because I didn't watch it last night. She was very excited and giddy when Nick first came on the show.

But now, I see Nick just there, as far as K is concerned. I think she learned very quickly who her F1 was going to be. I respect her for giving him a chance, and like she said in her blog, if Nick isn't the F1 then this way she knows for sure and THEY would know for sure. Paraphrasing

Nick handled himself very well IMO. I think he was being very realistic in the possible outcome.

At this point, IMO I can't see K even remotely interested in pre FS sex with Nick.

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LoveDovez wrote:To me, Nick...is barely a 3 on the scale of 1 to 10...and even less than that on a personality scale. I'm sorry to his fans on here, but this is JMHO of him....

It seems viewers either love or hate Nick. I love Nick. For me he's 10/10 :Nod:

That's great. That's what makes the world go around. Just think if we all thought the same of each guy what a world it would be. Thanks so much for being respectful of my opinion. You're a 10/10 to me.

I just can't believe how irresponsible Kaitlyn was in posting this picture. She clearly knows how the internet works, it doesn't make sense she would post this.  The girl who tipped off RS with the snapchat photo was the only one who saw this picture and apparently is known for playing practical jokes on YouTube, so I am going to refrain from declaring it 100% Shawn at this point.

If you believe the spoilers, then you also have to think that Nick is NOT the sex guy.

Multiple people saw, SC'd and tweeted the snapchat SC's which were taken from a video that Kaitlyn herself posted. It wasn't just one person that got that got a picture circulating to cause a rumor.  It was indeed Shawn in the bed with Kaitlyn, no disputing that.

Sleuthers here had been trying to locate them as they had both gone off the grid for several days before snapchat gate occurred.

Yes, she surfaced in Chicago with the girls and Shawn at CMAFest with Cupcake, immediately following, but that was basically damage control and TPTB spinning a web to create doubt.

As for whether Nick is the pre-FS sex guy, well, depends on if you believe RS or not.  He's specifically said and is standing by it being Nick.  We've gone round and round in circle making cases for and against Nick, Shawn, even Jared.  So that's a wait and see if it even gets a mention during the next Epi airing.

Ladybug82 wrote:Multiple people saw, SC'd and tweeted the snapchat SC's which were taken from a video that Kaitlyn herself posted. It wasn't just one person that got that got a picture circulating to cause a rumor.  It was indeed Shawn in the bed with Kaitlyn, no disputing that.

Sleuthers here had been trying to locate them as they had both gone off the grid for several days before snapchat gate occurred.

Yes, she surfaced in Chicago with the girls and Shawn at CMAFest with Cupcake, immediately following, but that was basically damage control and TPTB spinning a web to create doubt.

As for whether Nick is the pre-FS sex guy, well, depends on if you believe RS or not.  He's specifically said and is standing by it being Nick.  We've gone round and round in circle making cases for and against Nick, Shawn, even Jared.  So that's a wait and see if it even gets a mention during the next Epi airing.

I understand what you're saying, am I'm not disputing the snapchat. Just saying that the spoilers have been wrong,
the snapchat does look awful convincing, and I can't get past Kaitlyn's brain dead moment of posting it. Do we even know that it was sex that happened, does Nick have a one on one next week?

rosesrREd wrote:I just can't believe how irresponsible Kaitlyn was in posting this picture. She clearly knows how the internet works, it doesn't make sense she would post this.  The girl who tipped off RS with the snapchat photo was the only one who saw this picture and apparently is known for playing practical jokes on YouTube, so I am going to refrain from declaring it 100% Shawn at this point.

If you believe the spoilers, then you also have to think that Nick is NOT the sex guy.

You can still watch the snapchat. The guy that tweeted it, took a vid of it while playing so it's still out there.

OOps the guy must have blocked me. I followed him but he's gone. I posted the link in the first post of the fan thread. I'll go look.

ETA: it's here. Further discussion should take place in K's SM thread, or Shawns thread.

2nd post Click the pic a Vid will play

You can see that it is Kaitlyn's new hairstyle in the vid as well.

I doubt Shawn, who we are seeing fall hard for K, would be up for a prank where he'd lie topless in bed with K post-show.

IMO, the cat is out of a bag and is a pretty conclusive spoiler. It's the journey in between that will be most interesting now.

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I wouldn't base anything on what US mag says. They're not always right. Maybe they have the same source as RS.

Didn't Kaitlyn say that the guy was someone she'd had several dates with? Am I remembering that wrong?

Re: the hazing. Nick said this episode that the guys were treating him well or something like that. Is RS the only one saying this happened? I'm not buying much of anything he says this season.