Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #4

reason wrote:I hope Nick does go to the ATFR and simple say I wish you well.  Goodnight, be the gentle man he knows he can be, and just walk away.

OnePromise wrote:

reason wrote:I hope Nick does go to the ATFR and simple say I wish you well.  Goodnight, be the gentle man he knows he can be, and just walk away.

Yes! This 100%!!! He can do it.  I'm really hoping for man of restraint.  He has been unable to avoid reliving last season in pretty much every other way.  I truly hope that he can turn the tables at the ATFR for sure.  

lleyki wrote:I thought RS suggested Nick was unemployed and as we know everything he says is gospel. *in case it wasn't obvious, that was sarcasm*

I hope for Kaitlyn's sake she doesn't try to pull an Andi and act like everything was all Nick and she had no culpability in anything because that didn't work for Andi with some people and it will DEFINITELY not work for her. Kaitlyn is delusional if she thinks anyone, I guess aside from people who really, really hate Nick, will go for that when she has been getting criticized and called out since the first episode of the season, long before Nick showed up.

People have been judging her, judging her actions, calling her shallow (before Ian said it), worse Bachelorette ever and yes the sl*t shaming. I've read so many comments from people so excited for the MTA to see the guys go at her and say how they felt about her as the lead and how awful she was. Fact, Kaitlyn is not exactly beloved as the lead and yeah I'm sure the producers will push the "love story" between her and Shawn, starting with her melt down next week at the sheer thought that that "thing/mistake" she did with Nick could cost her him but yeah, some people are still not going to be fully sold on her or hell even them as a couple that they will buy this "oh it was all Nick, he was just so aggressive and flirty."

Especially again when she regretted it so much and loved Shawn so much that she kept Nick around and still had sex with him again. So if I were her I'd quit with that mess and go back to, "look, I treated each relationship as its own thing and in that moment I was very attracted to him, felt very connected to him and it happened and that's it." Trying to make herself out to be some innocent manipulated by Nick is bullcrap and disingenuous.  If this past episode is anything to go by, I get that the guy she's currently engaged to isn't the coolest cucumber so maybe she feels she needs to appease his ego but she's making herself look and sound foolish and full of crap in my opinion.

happygolucky wrote:Animosity? ... For what? ... For making her weak in her knees? No, I don't think so either ...  but it kinda confirms my belief from some time ago ... there is no friendship to go back to because there was never a real friendship to begin with.
IMO, Nick supporting words are simply positive affirmations; Sometimes to himself - to give sense to it all, sometimes to his fans - to explain and agree with or show appreciation, sometimes to all the anti-fans - to "kill with kindness".
Once the storm is over and you're left with a devastation you try to find a bright side, since that's the way to live with no regret after the risk you took by playing house in the middle of whirlwind hasn't paid off.

OnePromise wrote:

reason wrote:I hope Nick does go to the ATFR and simple say I wish you well.  Goodnight, be the gentle man he knows he can be, and just walk away.

Yes! This 100%!!! He can do it.  I'm really hoping for man of restraint.  He has been unable to avoid reliving last season in pretty much every other way.  I truly hope that he can turn the tables at the ATFR for sure.  

SueSt wrote:

OnePromise wrote:

reason wrote:I hope Nick does go to the ATFR and simple say I wish you well.  Goodnight, be the gentle man he knows he can be, and just walk away.

Yes! This 100%!!! He can do it.  I'm really hoping for man of restraint.  He has been unable to avoid reliving last season in pretty much every other way.  I truly hope that he can turn the tables at the ATFR for sure.  

I think he can.  I think he will.  As HGL said above "Kill her with Kindness."  Nothing to prove ... wish her well and walk on.  She had her chance.

AllAboutLove wrote:

SueSt wrote:

OnePromise wrote:

Yes! This 100%!!! He can do it.  I'm really hoping for man of restraint.  He has been unable to avoid reliving last season in pretty much every other way.  I truly hope that he can turn the tables at the ATFR for sure.  

I think he can.  I think he will.  As HGL said above "Kill her with Kindness."  Nothing to prove ... wish her well and walk on.  She had her chance.

IA. At the end of the day, no one wants to be with someone that doesn't want them enough to choose them not just one time or two times but all the time. Nick has proven he can do that. Time for him to wait for someone to come to him and prove they will do that for him too.