Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #4

I will never believe Nick is attracted to Corinne's 'over the top sexuality'.  IMO, he would like nothing better than to have left her In Nola in the alligator swamp.  IMO, he has had it up to here with her, with TPTB, and knows he has no voice in the matter, and is simply complying with what the producers of this show want.   They found gold with Corinne.  In a season where there are an abundant supply of beautiful, and classy women, they have Corinne.  JACKPOT!   She's exactly what they need for drama, and to get people talking, and they are going to hold on to their little cash cow as long as they like, and whether Nick like's it or not.  JMO

Adults can set their own boundaries, and so far no woman has come up (ITM or otherwise) to say they were touched inappropriately. I'm actually happy to see a more sex positive approach to this whole show / process. While certain behaviour can be interpreted as gross or trashy, I'd rather have it shown and discussed than have it deliberately hidden and made to be something taboo. But I totally understand that this topic can be very divisive... just wanted to share my opinion.

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I wish he had left her in that swamp. I can actually visualize all the gators running as fast as they can to get away from her.

If RS is correct, Corinne didn't get 1-1, was sent back when she went to his hotel room with her platinum you-know-what, was deprived of FS...that tells me if Nick was attracted to her over the top sexuality.

notarose wrote:
Boundaries are a 2-way street. Nick is sexual by his own admission.  IMO what we are seeing is the boundary set by each of the women and as the lead, Nick will determine whether that boundary works for him.  I see no evidence of anyone giving back a rose or refusing to accept one because their personal boundary has been crossed.

crunchycheeto wrote:Adults can set their own boundaries, and so far no woman has come up (ITM or otherwise) to say they were touched inappropriately. I'm actually happy to see a more sex positive approach to this whole show / process. While certain behaviour can be interpreted as gross or trashy, I'd rather have it shown and discussed than have it deliberately hidden and made to be something taboo. But I totally understand that this topic can be very divisive... just wanted to share my opinion.

ITA! Everyone's boundaries are different IMO. IMO Nick has taken a lot of heat over the past couple of years because he is not shy talking about intimacy. If any of the women were uncomfortable, they could have easily left and none of them have done it so far. IMO It's so weird that on a show which has 3 Fantasy Suite dates on alternate days in real time, talking about sex is considered taboo. JMO.

notarose wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

atem wrote:It was in the article that talked about how the dates came about for episode 4 and Raven's was returned, but Nick asked to buy and keep his set.

Oops ...sorry ...didn't realize he bought them ...still dont see that as horribly romantic .... a ticket stubb or a pamphlet about the place would be more of a sentimental keepsake IMO  

Reminders me of CH's statement about a "come to Jesus talk" because Nick was skating through.

All this talk about Raven and her skates reminds me when I scrolled through her instagram there was a pic of her in front of angel wings on a brick building and how much it reminded me of one of Nicks pics in front of angel wings. Coincidence or just a fad? I meant to go look back to see if they could be the same wings but haven't had a chance.

Luvstruck wrote:

notarose wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

Oops ...sorry ...didn't realize he bought them ...still dont see that as horribly romantic .... a ticket stubb or a pamphlet about the place would be more of a sentimental keepsake IMO  

Reminders me of CH's statement about a "come to Jesus talk" because Nick was skating through.

All this talk about Raven and her skates reminds me when I scrolled through her instagram there was a pic of her in front of angel wings on a brick building and how much it reminded me of one of Nicks pics in front of angel wings. Coincidence or just a fad?  I meant to go look back to see if they could be the same wings but haven't had a chance.

The angel wings are found all over the world as part of the Global Angel Wings Project, and there's multiple of them in LA alone.  (Source: http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/where-to-find-l-a-s-most-instagrammed-walls-irl/ )

crunchycheeto wrote:

Luvstruck wrote:

notarose wrote:

Reminders me of CH's statement about a "come to Jesus talk" because Nick was skating through.

All this talk about Raven and her skates reminds me when I scrolled through her instagram there was a pic of her in front of angel wings on a brick building and how much it reminded me of one of Nicks pics in front of angel wings. Coincidence or just a fad?  I meant to go look back to see if they could be the same wings but haven't had a chance.

The angel wings are found all over the world as part of the Global Angel Wings Project, and there's multiple of them in LA alone.  (Source: http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/where-to-find-l-a-s-most-instagrammed-walls-irl/ )

Yes. It was from a trip she made in Los Angeles.

Am I the only on that heard Nick tell Rachel that when he's with her he doesn't think of anything else (paraphrasing,) towards the end their date???

2observe wrote:Am I the only on that heard Nick tell Rachel that when he's with her he doesn't think of anything else (paraphrasing,) towards the end their date???

If he had said "doesn't think of anyone else" then we would have had a real biggy.

notarose wrote:

2observe wrote:Am I the only on that heard Nick tell Rachel that when he's with her he doesn't think of anything else (paraphrasing,) towards the end their date???

If he had said "doesn't think of anyone else" then we would have had a real biggy.

Did Nick add 'but you' at the end? I don 't recall.

2observe wrote:

notarose wrote:

2observe wrote:Am I the only on that heard Nick tell Rachel that when he's with her he doesn't think of anything else (paraphrasing,) towards the end their date???

If he had said "doesn't think of anyone else" then we would have had a real biggy.

Did Nick add 'but you' at the end?  I don 't recall.

No. I just rewatched Nick giving Rachel the 1-1 rose.
The " but you" was said to Vanessa during the G force portion of the date.
 It was actually subtitled.
"I wouldn't want to be with anyone else but you."