Re: Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - Discussion - #2

by sdmom Tue May 30, 2017 9:58 pm

tiger wrote:Raven has really disappointed me. I liked her a lot on Nick's season and thought she seemed like a nice, normal girl who was "there for the right reasons" (as much as you can be when you're on this show). She has turned out to be Becca Tilley 2.0, in my opinion. A seemingly down to earth runner-up who gets off the show and becomes a fame-obsessed egomaniac hell-bent on making a career out of being a part of the "Bachelor Family."

I didn't see the connection between Nick and Vanessa while his season was airing, but seeing how self absorbed, fame-hungry, and immature Raven and her "squad" appear to be on social media makes me understand more clearly what he may have seen in Vanessa and not Raven that appealed to him.

All JMO.

I find it's sad how fame can change a person, and Raven isn't the only one. I have so much more admiration for people who resist the temptation and go back to their pre-Bach life.

by **GuardianAngel** Tue May 30, 2017 10:55 pm

I didn't care for Raven while we were sleuthing and those pics of her trying on gowns with her face smudged out surfaced. Right then and there I felt fame was already in her head.

She and her squad all deserve each other IMHO.

Can't wait for the next Bach season, when these leftovers will be history.

by Cocoasneeze Tue May 30, 2017 11:30 pm

Imo fame never changed Raven, she came to the show with her own self built back up story, and had her people feed info to RS. She was fully prepared for the fame, and wanted it. Nothing has changed Imo, she's still the same as she was before the show, too. Jmo.

by **GuardianAngel** Tue May 30, 2017 11:32 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] yup that too. IA

by lleyki Tue May 30, 2017 11:53 pm

Cocoasneeze wrote:Imo fame never changed Raven, she came to the show with her own self built back up story, and had her people feed info to RS. She was fully prepared for the fame, and wanted it. Nothing has changed Imo, she's still the same as she was before the show, too. Jmo.

This. Wasn't Raven the one with her line of Team Raven merchandise that she was hawking on social media even before the cast had officially been announced? By the way, just because I follow Vanessa and Nick on Instagram, Instagram seems to think I care about these other people and so they keep populating my search, so I've seen a few pictures of their little Vegas adventure. Can I just say that all of these people could use a really good stylist and even more, a better makeup artist? Because wow there is some bad fashion and awful makeup happening in many of these pictures.