Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - BIP - Discussion 2

Ash2214 wrote:MM was holding a charity event the night of the finale/ATFR, so all of her guests were informed Andi also slept with Nick during the ATFR. MM probably didn't even care how that affected Andi and Josh. MM probably just cared about herself and how it affected her at her charity event. She's probably hating him still for how he embarrassed HER because it's all about MM. 

Andi never, ever stood a chance with MM after that. All JMO.

About that. If Josh found out before the ATFR aired, because he "knew" everything at that point, he must have kept that info from Mommy dearest?

@Ladybug82
My exact thinking. Because diarrhea is bad does not make vomiting less bad or vice versa.

Ash2214 wrote:MM was holding a charity event the night of the finale/ATFR, so all of her guests were informed Andi also slept with Nick during the ATFR. MM probably didn't even care how that affected Andi and Josh. MM probably just cared about herself and how it affected her at her charity event. She's probably hating him still for how he embarrassed HER because it's all about MM. 

Andi never, ever stood a chance with MM after that. All JMO.

 Why is this so hilarious to me? 

Also, this woman leading a charity event of any kind.  Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Cocoasneeze wrote:Now it's two women, who have claimed, that Josh is emotionally abusive and manipulative. And still there are people siding with him, defending him. It doesn't seem logical to me, but it still happens. JMO

Unfortunately, lots of people aren't logical and many don't have any common sense. Being the logical sort myself, this has a tendency to drive me crazy.

sosleepy wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:MM was holding a charity event the night of the finale/ATFR, so all of her guests were informed Andi also slept with Nick during the ATFR. MM probably didn't even care how that affected Andi and Josh. MM probably just cared about herself and how it affected her at her charity event. She's probably hating him still for how he embarrassed HER because it's all about MM. 

Andi never, ever stood a chance with MM after that. All JMO.

 Why is this so hilarious to me? 

Also, this woman leading a charity event of any kind.  Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Karma at it's finest.

I think it was a charity event related to her church group, also. Imagine the room filled with dozens of this: link

GuardianAngel wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:MM was holding a charity event the night of the finale/ATFR, so all of her guests were informed Andi also slept with Nick during the ATFR. MM probably didn't even care how that affected Andi and Josh. MM probably just cared about herself and how it affected her at her charity event. She's probably hating him still for how he embarrassed HER because it's all about MM. 

Andi never, ever stood a chance with MM after that. All JMO.

About that. If Josh found out before the ATFR aired, because he "knew" everything at that point, he must have kept that info from Mommy dearest?

According to Andi, she lied about it to Josh for quite a while. She told him not long before the finale. Regardless of the person, I don't think there are many people out there that will be telling their parents what type of sex life their fiancé had and I also don't think Andi or Josh were expecting Nick to out her like that.

I do, however, think MM probably made the situation worse for Josh and especially Andi. I can totally picture MM behind the scenes saying things like "she cheated on you" "she embarrassed you and our family" "she's not a holy and faithful woman" and so on. I can picture MM making Josh more angry about the situation and taking it out on Andi. MM was all about Andi while the show was airing, but after? Cold as ice. 

All JMO

I don't think there are many people out there that will be telling their parents what type of sex life their fiancé had wrote:

IA but if one is going on this show, IMO you better tell whoever you consider close to you, everything if you don't want them to see it in the tabloids or coming out of LiarBoy's trusty opinions.

Ladybug82 wrote:Josh's awful behavior may make Andi and Amanda look a little better, but lets not get carried away or give either too much credit here.

JMO

Yep, this.

IMO - Josh is a manipulative and possibly/maybe borderline abusive person who is too stupid to realize he should just shut up and let it go (or possibly seek out professional help). He's not going to repair his image at this point, he's only making it worse. But he's too vain and borderline abusive to just let it go...how dare these little women question his amazingness?

Also IMO - Andi and Amanda are not delicate petals. They are also vain and too self involved to just shut up. Let's not pretend that whatever they say in the press is for some altruistic purpose of stopping his borderline abusive behavior...they aren't doing some public service here, they are trying to protect their own image/reputation by smearing his. Just because what they are saying might have a shred of truth doesn't mean they are doing this for great reasons.

And JMO - I hope none of them take my advice and shut up. This is a cesspool of a$$holes, and the fact that they live their life out loud on SM is highly amusing to me. Keep it coming!

sosleepy wrote:Do you remember when people thought Josh had the potential to be the next Bachelor? That if Andi HAD gone with Nick (like she probably should have), Josh had a real shot at the gig? *shudder* 

Andi took one for the team.

Yeah I always thought that if Andi had chosen Nick, for sure Josh would have gotten the lead, especially with the shiny edit they gave him back then.

I definitely give Andi more credit than Amanda when it comes to Josh. Even though there were signs, Andi probably didn't know what she was getting into. Amanda was warned by almost everyone on BIP and still chose to ignore it, get engaged and invite BOR in her house to live with her two kids. When it comes to being an idiot, Amanda has Andi beat IMO.

All JMO

allykat wrote:

Ladybug82 wrote:Josh's awful behavior may make Andi and Amanda look a little better, but lets not get carried away or give either too much credit here.

JMO

Yep, this.

IMO - Josh is a manipulative and possibly/maybe borderline abusive person who is too stupid to realize he should just shut up and let it go (or possibly seek out professional help). He's not going to repair his image at this point, he's only making it worse. But he's too vain and borderline abusive to just let it go...how dare these little women question his amazingness?

Also IMO - Andi and Amanda are not delicate petals. They are also vain and too self involved to just shut up. Let's not pretend that whatever they say in the press is for some altruistic purpose of stopping his borderline abusive behavior...they aren't doing some public service here, they are trying to protect their own image/reputation by smearing his. Just because what they are saying might have a shred of truth doesn't mean they are doing this for great reasons.

And JMO - I hope none of them take my advice and shut up. This is a cesspool of a$$holes, and the fact that they live their life out loud on SM is highly amusing to me. Keep it coming!

But Andi did shut up about Josh. She wrote her story, which she had a right to tell since she lived it through it and kept it moving. About Amanda, this man goes to the media and attacks her, attacks the father of her children, acting like he is the victim. Can anyone of us sit here and act like we wouldn't want to defend ourselves when we get dragged by the media by an unstable ex?