Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - Episodes - Mar 6th ATFR - #2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Of course he proposed live. You are my soulmate hmm yeah sure.

Just watched JKL...

Lauren's ring is Neil Lane and tptb paid for it
Upclose shot showed its very blingy. I would hazard a guess and say it's probably the most blinged out ring that's ever been picked.
Arie said he texted Lauren to check on her...was this before the January 1st phone call?  Arie said Becca gave him permission to text Lauren, so does that mean she didn't know about the Jan 1 phone call?

I love her SO much. Becca’s post 

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  Words can’t express everything I’m feeling tonight, but I’m so beyond grateful for the love, support and well-wishes. I’m beyond excited for this next chapter of my journey and to have shared the start of that all with you tonight. Now we’re doing the damn thing 

  
  https://instagram.com/p/BgAmKb8hN_l/
  
  
  

GuardianAngel wrote:I'm not sure what's there to laugh at when two people were in love and they go their separate ways.

As much as I disliked Andi, that was sad for many reason, personally I wouldn't laugh. MO

Because when you trample over people's feelings the way I think Arie did, and disregard others as if they don't matter the way I think Lauren did, that's f-cked up imo. I don't begrudge them wanting to be together but there was a right way to go about it and a wrong way. If Arie truly realized after the show that Becca wasn't the one for him then he should've ended it no matter what. But he shouldn't have needed to make sure there was a possibility with Lauren in order to do it, and he shouldn't have basically started a relationship before he ended his engagement. Maybe it meant nothing to him, but I think it meant something to Becca, and that should have mattered. With Lauren, I'm not of the opinion she's as blameless as everyone thinks she is. If your ex who is engaged to another person calls you up and tries to start that conversation with you here's how you handle it even if you still have feelings for them "I do think we have a lot to talk about but regardless of whatever feelings I have for you, having this type of conversation with you while you're in a relationship with someone else is really inappropriate". Lauren and Becca don't need to best friends, or even friends at all, to show her that respect. If Arie is really so in love with Lauren, then he should take a leap of faith. A truly romantic grand gesture is putting yourself out there without any assurances or safety net because that's how much you love the person. And as easy as it is to blame the producers for filming it, Arie is the one who should've had Becca's back. He's the one who made a commitment and promised to choose her every day. Breaking it off in a way that's as sensitive as possible is his responsibility not the producers. Here's the thing though, and I could be wrong because I don't know these people, it seems to me as if Lauren needs Arie to be as insensitive as possible towards Becca and for him to treat Becca as if she's nothing in order for her to feel good about their relationship. Mo'nique has a quote that's very popular on SM "You see when you do clownery, the clown comes back to bite". & When their clown comes back to bite, I will be laughing, and cracking jokes at their expense in their general discussion thread as is done to lots of people in the franchise who haven't conducted themselves in as awful a manner as I think these two have. All Jmo.

@ReneeM Is there a way I can just automatically like all of your posts? You've been killing it!

ReneeM wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:I'm not sure what's there to laugh at when two people were in love and they go their separate ways.

As much as I disliked Andi, that was sad for many reason, personally I wouldn't laugh. MO

Because when you trample over people's feelings the way I think Arie did, and disregard others as if they don't matter the way I think Lauren did, that's f-cked up imo. I don't begrudge them wanting to be together but there was a right way to go about it and a wrong way. If Arie truly realized after the show that Becca wasn't the one for him then he should've ended it no matter what. But he shouldn't have needed to make sure there was a possibility with Lauren in order to do it, and he shouldn't have basically started a relationship before he ended his engagement. Maybe it meant nothing to him, but I think it meant something to Becca, and that should have mattered. With Lauren, I'm not of the opinion she's as blameless as everyone thinks she is. If your ex who is engaged to another person calls you up and tries to start that conversation with you here's how you handle it even if you still have feelings for them "I do think we have a lot to talk about but regardless of whatever feelings I have for you, having this type of conversation with you while you're in a relationship with someone else is really inappropriate". Lauren and Becca don't need to best friends, or even friends at all, to show her that respect. If Arie is really so in love with Lauren, then he should take a leap of faith. A truly romantic grand gesture is putting yourself out there without any assurances or safety net because that's how much you love the person. And as easy as it is to blame the producers for filming it, Arie is the one who should've had Becca's back. He's the one who made a commitment and promised to choose her every day. Breaking it off in a way that's as sensitive as possible is his responsibility not the producers. Here's the thing though, and I could be wrong because I don't know these people, it seems to me as if Lauren needs Arie to be as insensitive as possible towards Becca and for him to treat Becca as if she's nothing in order for her to feel good about their relationship. Mo'nique has a quote that's very popular on SM "You see when you do clownery, the clown comes back to bite". & When their clown comes back to bite, I will be laughing, and cracking jokes at their expense in their general discussion thread as is done to lots of people in the franchise who haven't conducted themselves in as awful a manner as I think these two have. All Jmo.

PREACH....

If I could give a million likes for this post I would!!!

Arie and Becca went house hunting together.?Yeah, that was a huge red flag that he wasn't "fully in" to the relationship.

Ok just finished watching. I love Lauren and Arie. I don't hate Becca but she knew she was looking at being the Bachelorette. She was so excited and ready to do the damn thing and the proof is also in the letter she wrote to Millsey. She wrote she was excited so she wasn't that heartbroken. I'm gonna watch the season obviously but her let's do the damn thing is gonna get on my nerves. Also, come on she didn't know about the billboards? She so did, this show is so scripted. Glad Arie and Lauren are getting their HEA!! 3

Dang these are some good guys!!!! i hope the rest are just as good!!

All threads are now open!

And on to the next season!

Lauren told JKimmel they are already planning their wedding! I'm surprised CH didn't ask them about that.

I'm happy for Becca - time to meet a real man. 

Quite a few of my fellow Bach-fans warned me about Arie - but I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and went into the season with an open mind. In the end, all we got was probably the worst Bachelor to date. And that's saying a lot since we had the likes of JPG, Jake Pavelka etc. I can't stand his smarmy/greasy ways. Good riddance. 

Lauren....I feel that she is young and impressionable. Wouldn't be surprised if she looks up to Arie (god knows why). Although Becca is only 1-2 years older than her, Lauren comes across as more sheltered, less 'worldly' and younger than 25. JMO. 

I don't have anything against her. If anything, she probably thinks she has met her Prince Charming and is in her bubble of bliss. For her sake I hope she's right, but not holding my breath.