Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

HEA wrote:F1 must be monk for months to be trusted I think

AllAboutLove wrote:

HEA wrote:I think the flirting is one person who thought she saw him at the club. No picture of him but only his friends. So rumors only IMO

Well the same thing was said of Sasha/F1 and lots of things can be claimed as "rumors" only. But there's evidence he was out clubbing post-show too. Anyone can believe what they want. Where's there's smoke there's fire imo.

AllAboutLove wrote:I was the first to state I think Taite would be F1 and long before the season and I have never changed my mind about that and still haven't. I am not talking about edits and I was the first to post that they changed things up this season as I still think it's Taite. 

There's been a lot of sleuthing done before the season even started and some BTS things I was told that I have confidence in my sources and long before the season started which I posted about. And yes the person said "flirting up a storm" and I have that info corroborated for me. Anyone can believe what they want. I believe more what I've seen, been told and sleuthed than just edits 

HEA wrote:F1 must be monk for months to be trusted I think

I hope you're not mocking me by implying I don't see Taite as a monk and therefore not trustworthy. There's no need to be baiting or mocking fellow members for their opinions and it's against forum rules.

HEA wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:I was the first to state I think Taite would be F1 and long before the season and I have never changed my mind about that and still haven't. I am not talking about edits and I was the first to post that they changed things up this season as I still think it's Taite. 

There's been a lot of sleuthing done before the season even started and some BTS things I was told that I have confidence in my sources and long before the season started which I posted about. And yes the person said "flirting up a storm" and I have that info corroborated for me. Anyone can believe what they want. I believe more what I've seen, been told and sleuthed than just edits 

HEA wrote:F1 must be monk for months to be trusted I think

I hope you're not mocking me by implying I don't see Taite as a monk and therefore not trustworthy. There's no need to be baiting or mocking fellow members for their opinions and it's against forum rules.

The same way some are mocking her clown dress. I am talking general. Never mention a name. That is my opinion on the show

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Bobette wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:
Where's there's smoke there's fire imo.

IA and "smoke = fire" comes up at least once every season in relation to someone or something and always seems to be accurate 

AllAboutLove wrote:

Bobette wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:
Where's there's smoke there's fire imo.

IA and "smoke = fire" comes up at least once every season in relation to someone or something and always seems to be accurate 

@Bobette it's definitely something that's been a pattern in the past and IA often those smoke signals are more telling than the edit of the show where TPTB can make things a certain way  

One thing I noticed, Ali's been liking comments on her IG about how they're glad she sent Charlie home, deserves better than him, he's psycho etc. It's why I find it odd that after the episode aired Taite still liked Charlie's IG post. I'd think any man would be standing by his woman 100% especially after watching the episode and given Ali liking those comments and replying  

It's clear to me post-show Ali doesn't care for Charlie (and neither does Osher's wife who made a post of it!). It's another thing I side-eye because his loyalty I'd think would be towards his girlfriend (if he's with her still)  Same with his interview where he said not to moving to Adelaide and good luck to whoever wins. Can make it like he is "forced" to say this and do this but imo if a man loves a woman truly he would be backing her. 

I'll be interested to see what happens post-finale and how they act if they are still together  

HEA wrote:I think the flirting is one person who thought she saw him at the club. No picture of him but only his friends. So rumors only IMO... plus I would like the definition of flirting from this person. Talking to girls in a club where half the population is girls? Or flirting like very close to a woman, making gooey eyes to each other? Again perception and quick judgment because he was with his buddies and not home eating cookies in front of his TV? Maybe he was flirting but maybe it was exaggerated. I take it like a rumor and a grain of salt. JMO

HEA wrote:

HEA wrote:I think the flirting is one person who thought she saw him at the club. No picture of him but only his friends. So rumors only IMO... plus I would like the definition of flirting from this person. Talking to girls in a club where half the population is girls? Or flirting like very close to a woman, making gooey eyes to each other? Again perception and quick judgment because he was with his buddies and not home eating cookies in front of his TV? Maybe he was flirting but maybe it was exaggerated. I take it like a rumor and a grain of salt. JMO

quoting myself...

I went to the bottom of this and all this rumor comes from this. A comment left under DM article. DM considered as trash mags clicbait$$...


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6328397/The-Bachelorettes-Taite-Radley-reveals-one-thing-make-walk-away-Ali-Oetjen.html

Everyone can open an account and leave a comment. So anyone basically can comment let us say: I saw Taite and Ali last week ... and everyone would jump on the gun that they are still together when in fact this could very much be a troll.

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Today's generation is not that much different from mine. I went clubbing. I was quite friendly with everyone at my table when I was there, with or without a boyfriend (this was before I met my husband). Because I was with a FB, we were not couch potatoes and we did go clubbing and we all had fun. I did not stop myself laughing with guys around me because I had a BF. I laughed and if they wanted something more, I kindly told them that I had a BF and that was it. But yes, I recognize that today's generation looks wilder but it is only a perception. I am not sure they are. If I compare before my generation in the 60s, those were definitely wayyyyy wilder than any generation after that. JMHO.

Anyway. I am not a fan of Taite. You may read this in the unspoiled. I had no horse in the race. It IS possible that Taite is a big A$$ or maybe they split and he decided that he was not dead and decided to act like a fool in public in bars where everyone would recognize him. He sure did this other TV show and he seems to enjoy fame, so who knows? ... But maybe, just maybe, he is just having fun with his buddies which I think one of them has a steady GF, at bars. Everyone has a past as Ali said, it does not mean we are meant to have the same label all our life... I am not a fan of Taite but I am a fan of the benefice of the doubt if I do not see valid proofs. Perception is a dangerous thing IMHO. I have read many comments on IG that were nasty and disgusting just because a person did not like the contestant. I have read many comments on IG too that stated so many rumors that were all wrong at the end of the day. So my MO is: grain of salt until I see pictures. I believe what I see. yep. that is me.  

As far as I know Taite or Todd or Bill could be good guys, regular guys or bad guys. I do not know them, I have only a few hours to know them on my TV, read articles and consult their IG. I can hardly say that I know them and make a judgment so far.

For now, I saw no proof whatsoever to conclude that Taite is flirting in bars but a rumor of an unknown individual who left a comment on a trash online mag with no picture to prove it.

Rumor IMHO is a dangerous thing. Many people were hurt badly because of one rumor who spread all around. I am not saying they are systematically wrong, some happen to be true in the long run. But until then, I have my doubts with Taite.

I raised my case. I am now moving on to the FS and finale.  ALL of this is my opinion. Everyone is entitled to have one and this is mine. If I used the word "we" it is meant to be "I" as it is probably a lost of translation french/english. I have/had no intention (and never had) to speak on behalf anybody else but me

AllAboutLove wrote:Actually before this comment and sleuthing since before the season even started I had posted about being given info from a very reliable source about Taite and they corroborated this comment and that he was there acting this way and had been doing so at another location shortly after filming ended behaving similarly. 

Again, this was being discussed in the F1-F4 thread and as I stated there, one can believe it or not, but I trust the sources and evidence I've been given and it's not just "rumors".

Popcorn For All wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

Bobette wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:
Where's there's smoke there's fire imo.

IA and "smoke = fire" comes up at least once every season in relation to someone or something and always seems to be accurate 

@Bobette it's definitely something that's been a pattern in the past and IA often those smoke signals are more telling than the edit of the show where TPTB can make things a certain way  

One thing I noticed, Ali's been liking comments on her IG about how they're glad she sent Charlie home, deserves better than him, he's psycho etc. It's why I find it odd that after the episode aired Taite still liked Charlie's IG post. I'd think any man would be standing by his woman 100% especially after watching the episode and given Ali liking those comments and replying  

It's clear to me post-show Ali doesn't care for Charlie (and neither does Osher's wife who made a post of it!). It's another thing I side-eye because his loyalty I'd think would be towards his girlfriend (if he's with her still)  Same with his interview where he said not to moving to Adelaide and good luck to whoever wins. Can make it like he is "forced" to say this and do this but imo if a man loves a woman truly he would be backing her. 

I'll be interested to see what happens post-finale and how they act if they are still together  

I didn't notice the Ali's likes but probably because I don't follow her, but I am glad you did. It is weird though, that Taite is close to  Charlie yet she likes negative comments about Charlie. It is also weird that Taite and Leah are facebook friends even though Leah basically trashed Ali not that long ago. It is all very peculiar. Also, that interview that Taite had with OK magazine, he came out as so harsh towards Ali and the process. I don't really know what to think! Also, I think they are not dramatising the LRC anymore they just said that there will be some tension but not to the point of shocking us.

sprout wrote:I may be way off but I think all of the above points to Taite not being with Ali. Yes, he was probably her intended F1 but I think something happened and they’re not together - whether that is at the finale or later. JMO.

AllAboutLove wrote:

sprout wrote:I may be way off but I think all of the above points to Taite not being with Ali. Yes, he was probably her intended F1 but I think something happened and they’re not together - whether that is at the finale or later. JMO.

@sprout you're not alone, it is very odd to me too. I don't think I've sleuthed a F1 for the BetteAU like how Taite has been and the consistent liking of Charlie's posts and him saying they were very close. 

Then there's Todd who is the one not liking Charlie's posts and even posting on his IGstories today with Ali and "strong women" something he captioned before regarding Ali and "strong woman" and supporting her on his IG earlier in the season. 

It's all    jmo