Bachelorette 16 - Clare Crawley & Tayshia Adams - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

provenceguy wrote:Difficult for the guys to switch allegiance if they're becoming invested in Clare and then have to switch gears for Tayshia. Maybe they can see that Clare is gaga for Dale and have theoretically thrown in the towel, though. RS says that of all the former, vetted contestants they have called to possibly return to the show, none have agreed to so far.

Makes one wonder... if the narrative about Dale is true, what if he is not so invested in Clare? Obviously I know nothing about him outside of his contestant thread where some of us saw serious potential as a lead because all signs point to him being a major catch :fishing:

Oh the drama if all of this crew is mixed together and he digs Taysha on paper they seem like a match.
It’s 2020 - no level of weird is off the table Lol. IMOAA

Here is a condensed version of an astrological Forecast for Clare. I had posted earlier that she was facing quite challenging times and here is how it has evolved for the next few months. There are interesting development and choices she will be facing.

Forecast for Clare Crawley


Pluto square Pluto:

Beginning of March 2019 until beginning of November 2021

This is a period of general regeneration, which may not be entirely pleasant. Most of us are attached to the past whether or not it is good for us. And this influence will root out precisely those elements of the past that are not good for you, even those aspects that you have forgotten about. Problems that you may have lost track of entirely but which are still working unconsciously in your life may reappear and become active now, usually but not always to your detriment.

Many things may be destroyed at this time, and the destruction will be ruthless if you defend them with rigidity. The action of this influence upon unyielding entities is particularly harsh. Therefore you should simply allow the things of the past to fade and allow the future to be born on their ruins. If you can do this, the potential for positive change is very great.

You may also get into severe power struggles with people who are trying to prevent the changes in your life or who are trying to expedite changes that you are resisting. Look very carefully to ascertain which category they are in.


Saturn sextile Venus:

End of January 2020 until mid-November 2020:

Professional and business relationships fulfill the symbolism of this influence perfectly. Both parties are concerned about what each expects of the other, and both are willing to live up to the agreements that are made. If there are real differences, you will work to smooth them out. You will not just sit back and assume that it will all work out by itself.

If a sexual relationship begins during this time there may be a considerable age difference between the two of you. The older partner may act as a kind of teacher-parent toward the younger. You may be either the younger or the older partner. Even if there is no age difference, the teacher-parent aspect will probably still exist.


Jupiter square Pluto:

Mid-March 2020 until end of November 2020

This influence can have the effect of arousing your ambition to achieve great things. You feel as if your energies could carry you higher and farther than usual, and you are willing to strive for power and success. But your efforts may run into considerable resistance from others, especially if you are not completely scrupulous about your methods. This time can bring you success and social standing, but it also can deprive you of these. Instead of gaining power, you may simply provoke conflict with those who are in power, sometimes quite innocently. You may have no intention of challenging anyone, yet you find yourself in a tight spot with the authorities.
Stand up for what you believe is right, but first make sure that you are right. This influence sometimes can make you feel convinced of a point of view that is actually shaky.
In some cases this influence can lead to legal conflicts, and you should be very sure that any legal matter you are involved in is strictly legitimate. Avoid underworld or shady persons in any matter

JMOAA

In the year 2020, ish is for real! Better believe it

I truly have no words!

If Clare does pick Dale early, do they have to be "in hiding" with their relationship for months (ie. until the show finishes airing)? I don't know why that thought just came to me. If Tayshia is taking over, why should Clare have to wait as long for her outcome? JMO.

@suzq If this speculation is true, I assume they'd want Clare and Dale to be in hiding until the episode airs where they presumably leave together. So perhaps episode 3 or 4.

If the spoiler is true then I guess Clare will continue to date Dale on the show while Tayshia gets to film her season like a Kaitlyn and Brit situation.

ElonM wrote:If the spoiler is true then I guess Clare will continue to date Dale on the show while Tayshia gets to film her season like a Kaitlyn and Brit situation.

I like that idea!

So at this point RS feels he can confirm two things: That Tayshia is at La Quinta and that some of the original cast members (who IIRC skewed younger,) were contacted for a potential return. Combine those two items, and it appears that adding Tayshia was not a planned plot point, but instead a rescue. Something went seriously awry with the season.

There is also unconfirmed tea from Reddit that a) Clare has been difficult, and b) she cancelled last Saturday's events. I don't think either point, if true, confirms much of anything. Other leads have been difficult, and have also cancelled events. But add to that the unconfirmed tea that Tayshia arrived at La Quinta on Monday, and it makes you wonder if whatever was going on came to a head a week ago.

It really could be anything, though. It could be Covid related, or it could be urgent problems at home. Or, it could be that Clare made up her mind quickly who she wanted (Dale?) and refused to cooperate any further.

Here's my question, though -- how can Clare afford to play with the amount of money on the table for her lead role? If you are in your early or mid-20s, you might not think about money a whole lot. You might follow your heart, and to heck with the financial consequences. But when you are nearly 40, you don't make a major move without taking your financial status into consideration. Clare is a hairdresser. Taken as a group, hairdressers are not known for earning a huge amount of money. Clare is looking at a very large payday for seeing this season through. Would she really be willing to throw that all away? That makes me think that there must be at least some degree of cooperation on her part with the process moving forward.

Astrobach wrote:Here is a condensed version of an astrological Forecast for Clare. I had posted earlier that she was facing quite challenging times and here is how it has evolved  for the next few months. There are interesting development and choices she will be facing.

Forecast for Clare Crawley


Pluto square Pluto:

Beginning of March 2019 until beginning of November 2021

This is a period of general regeneration, which may not be entirely pleasant. Most of us are attached to the past whether or not it is good for us. And this influence will root out precisely those elements of the past that are not good for you, even those aspects that you have forgotten about. Problems that you may have lost track of entirely but which are still working unconsciously in your life may reappear and become active now, usually but not always to your detriment.

Many things may be destroyed at this time, and the destruction will be ruthless if you defend them with rigidity. The action of this influence upon unyielding entities is particularly harsh. Therefore you should simply allow the things of the past to fade and allow the future to be born on their ruins. If you can do this, the potential for positive change is very great.

You may also get into severe power struggles with people who are trying to prevent the changes in your life or who are trying to expedite changes that you are resisting. Look very carefully to ascertain which category they are in.


Saturn sextile Venus:

End of January 2020 until mid-November 2020:

Professional and business relationships fulfill the symbolism of this influence perfectly. Both parties are concerned about what each expects of the other, and both are willing to live up to the agreements that are made. If there are real differences, you will work to smooth them out. You will not just sit back and assume that it will all work out by itself.

If a sexual relationship begins during this time there may be a considerable age difference between the two of you. The older partner may act as a kind of teacher-parent toward the younger. You may be either the younger or the older partner. Even if there is no age difference, the teacher-parent aspect will probably still exist.


Jupiter square Pluto:

Mid-March 2020 until end of November 2020

This influence can have the effect of arousing your ambition to achieve great things. You feel as if your energies could carry you higher and farther than usual, and you are willing to strive for power and success. But your efforts may run into considerable resistance from others, especially if you are not completely scrupulous about your methods. This time can bring you success and social standing, but it also can deprive you of these. Instead of gaining power, you may simply provoke conflict with those who are in power, sometimes quite innocently. You may have no intention of challenging anyone, yet you find yourself in a tight spot with the authorities.
Stand up for what you believe is right, but first make sure that you are right. This influence sometimes can make you feel convinced of a point of view that is actually shaky.
In some cases this influence can lead to legal conflicts, and you should be very sure that any legal matter you are involved in is strictly legitimate. Avoid underworld or shady persons in any matter

JMOAA

Thank you, @Astrobach. I always enjoy your readings!

Have any of you noticed if any of the possible guys that they wanted to call back changed their SM? Do you think that sleuthing will be harder?

@suzq I started going through them last night. I didn't get through them all but the ones I looked at appeared to be back to their normal lives.