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The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

[mention]jupi[/mention] wrote:
[mention]agentcurls[/mention] wrote:Added a few things to this list, humor me:  Smiley

Lauren F1:
Spoiler
Undeniable attraction & bond
special 1-on-1 time to walk thru Mex City
Photo of thier first interaction at mansion
Ben wowed upon first glance
Blindside references (JoJo, Becca, Ben) 
Family seems happy/excited
Friends of Ben's following her SM
Possible Twitter clues ("fixer upper" references)
Her quieter SM activity, sans promos
Ben's trips to LA
Other contestants commented on thier obvious connection
Not much is said about Lauren in Ben's ITMs (would give too much away?) 
Personal invitation to 1-on-1 in Indiana & in his everyday element 
Caila & JoJo being more guarded, the relationships never catch up
JoJo's busy SM activity (preparing for next step post-Ben?)
*edited* JoJo going through motions to get 'Ette role
Us Weekly story (were they right about Des/Chris or Team Brooks all the way?)
Lauren is emo in ITMs (per edit, usually F1)
TPTB have held back in previews LauBen confessions for later time to get max impact possibly
Season preview: "what we have is real (hugs Caila) and scary (w.fall jump with JoJo) and amazing (kisses Amanda in hot tub) and just (kisses Lauren H.) incredible (kisses Caila FD NP) No Lauren B. in sight
Season preview: no LB profession of feelings or love in person; but one JoJo confession in person


Foiler/upset:
Spoiler put out quite early in season
LauBen too obvious after 7 epis?
Blinding viewers w/LauBen in edit post-spoiler so other relationships go under the radar? 
Foiler was overturned by SnapchatGate last season, when will another foiler strike?
Slow burn vs. hot flame
The substance of what Ben says about JoJo in the edit
Doubts/fears expressed by both JoJo & Caila in the edit
Curious you tube channel dedicated to Lauren: "xBushnellBachelorettex"
MF's comment about this season being his 2nd fave after Jolly's
"3/4 of a Mesnick" reference
JoJo's less detached SM compared to Lauren (a more positive experience for her?)
Since when has MF given us a straight-up love story with minimal wavering in edit?
"girlfriend" vs "wife" references
Season preview "It's not often in life that you get the opportunity (FD boat embrace w/Caila) to shake things up (LauBen kiss on FD beach) I want to come out of this a better man for my wife" (BenJo fireworks kiss)
Per edit: Will imperfect Ben be ok with Lauren? She admitted she was very picky to Ben. Dad also pointed it out. She seems pretty concerned about how Ben sees her. Why didn't she brush off the Leah stuff? Why wasn't she more confident? Could it be b/c someone called her out on being less than perfect. I see a theme here.
Ben saying mid-way thru he didn't have to question who Lauren was anymore vs. JoJo who he is so comfortable w/ and whom he can be himself with[/b]
With so many "blindside" references, is the audience the ones who will be? 

JMHO's


Great list, {@=585}agentcurls{/@}! yes While I'm pretty convinced that Lauren is indeed F1, I agree that it's important to keep sleuthing.

For the "girlfriend vs wife" point, I'd like to add that Ben said in a VO after Lauren's first 1-on-1 that “Tonight feels like how I'd want the first date to be with my wife.”

Also, other posters have sleuthed out a couple things that perhaps could be added to the list:

Lauren F1
- Ben might have accidentally liked (then probably quickly un-liked) one of Lauren's pictures on Instagram. Someone CMIIW, but I don't think it's been determined yet if the screenshot is real or not
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(Source: https://twitter.com/JalaynaS/status/695993317230845953)


Foiler/Upset
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joelle_fletcher Sooo tonight, this happens! Thank you @cubs for sharing your stomping grounds and giving me a memory that will last a lifetime ⚾️ {#}wrigleyfield{/#} {#}TheBachelor{/#}

(Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/BB0GXQugKYf/)

- In the caption of the above photo, JoJo originally wrote "us" instead of "me".


Interesting Jupi! Also on AC's list about Lauren being picky.....You can hear what she loves about her dad, then after Ben gives her the rose, you see her PI stating those qualities about Ben, She says ! "Ben is the the most open, sensitive and caring person ".

Regarding her dad , he's the most nicest, kindest and sensitive .
by Guest
on Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:00 am
 
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Topic: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
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Views: 62300

The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

agentcurls wrote:Added a few things to this list, humor me:  Smiley

Lauren F1:
Spoiler
Undeniable attraction & bond
special 1-on-1 time to walk thru Mex City
Photo of thier first interaction at mansion
Ben wowed upon first glance
Blindside references (JoJo, Becca, Ben) 
Family seems happy/excited
Friends of Ben's following her SM
Possible Twitter clues ("fixer upper" references)
Her quieter SM activity, sans promos
Ben's trips to LA
Other contestants commented on thier obvious connection
Not much is said about Lauren in Ben's ITMs (would give too much away?) 
Personal invitation to 1-on-1 in Indiana & in his everyday element 
Caila & JoJo being more guarded, the relationships never catch up
JoJo's busy SM activity (preparing for next step post-Ben?)
*edited* JoJo going through motions to get 'Ette role
Us Weekly story (were they right about Des/Chris or Team Brooks all the way?)
Lauren is emo in ITMs (per edit, usually F1)
TPTB have held back in previews LauBen confessions for later time to get max impact possibly
Season preview: "what we have is real (hugs Caila) and scary (w.fall jump with JoJo) and amazing (kisses Amanda in hot tub) and just (kisses Lauren H.) incredible (kisses Caila FD NP) No Lauren B. in sight
Season preview: no LB profession of feelings or love in person; but one JoJo confession in person


Foiler/upset:
Spoiler put out quite early in season
LauBen too obvious after 7 epis?
Blinding viewers w/LauBen in edit post-spoiler so other relationships go under the radar? 
Foiler was overturned by SnapchatGate last season, when will another foiler strike?
Slow burn vs. hot flame
The substance of what Ben says about JoJo in the edit
Doubts/fears expressed by both JoJo & Caila in the edit
Curious you tube channel dedicated to Lauren: "xBushnellBachelorettex"
MF's comment about this season being his 2nd fave after Jolly's
"3/4 of a Mesnick" reference
JoJo's less detached SM compared to Lauren (a more positive experience for her?)
Since when has MF given us a straight-up love story with minimal wavering in edit?
"girlfriend" vs "wife" references
Season preview "It's not often in life that you get the opportunity (FD boat embrace w/Caila) to shake things up (LauBen kiss on FD beach) I want to come out of this a better man for my wife" (BenJo fireworks kiss)
Per edit: Will imperfect Ben be ok with Lauren? She admitted she was very picky to Ben. Dad also pointed it out. She seems pretty concerned about how Ben sees her. Why didn't she brush off the Leah stuff? Why wasn't she more confident? Could it be b/c someone called her out on being less than perfect. I see a theme here.
Ben saying mid-way thru he didn't have to question who Lauren was anymore vs. JoJo who he is so comfortable w/ and whom he can be himself with[/b]
With so many "blindside" references, is the audience the ones who will be? 

JMHO's


Great list, @agentcurls! yes While I'm pretty convinced that Lauren is indeed F1, I agree that it's important to keep sleuthing.

For the "girlfriend vs wife" point, I'd like to add that Ben said in a VO after Lauren's first 1-on-1 that “Tonight feels like how I'd want the first date to be with my wife.”

Also, other posters have sleuthed out a couple things that perhaps could be added to the list:

Lauren F1
- Ben might have accidentally liked (then probably quickly un-liked) one of Lauren's pictures on Instagram. Someone CMIIW, but I don't think it's been determined yet if the screenshot is real or not
Topics tagged under wrigleyfield on bachandbachettefans.net CaiqOnBW4AAEJPt
(Source: https://twitter.com/JalaynaS/status/695993317230845953)


Foiler/Upset
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joelle_fletcher Sooo tonight, this happens! Thank you @cubs for sharing your stomping grounds and giving me a memory that will last a lifetime ⚾️ #wrigleyfield #TheBachelor

(Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/BB0GXQugKYf/)

- In the caption of the above photo, JoJo originally wrote "us" instead of "me".
by jupi
on Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:51 pm
 
Search in: Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Contestants
Topic: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
Replies: 949
Views: 62300

Joelle Fletcher - (JoJo) - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

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joelle_fletcher Sooo tonight, this happens! Thank you @cubs for sharing your stomping grounds and giving us a memory that will last a lifetime ⚾️ #wrigleyfield #TheBachelor
by Diana
on Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:50 am
 
Search in: Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Contestants
Topic: Joelle Fletcher - (JoJo) - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
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Views: 66367

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