Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 3 - Sun - Jun 1/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

Ariela wrote:IMO, they were trying to show that Josh is a stand up guy, and already cares enough about Andi so that she's not disrespected. He's being protective. Most women like a man who will stick by them thru thick and thin ;)

This show aside, it IS disrespectful if a guy seeks phone numbers while supposedly dating you.

It also is disrespectful to the other guys there, who may be sent home because Andi may think that Andrew is into HER.

Also being a devil's advocate here....Andi deserves what Andrew is dishing. After all, she, too, seems to be leading ALL THE MEN on. Karma.

If Andi let's someone go then she's definitely not into them because I can't imigine her letting them go without a reasonable explanation this early in the show. Josh looked like someone with some issues and a temper, is what tptb was showing me and not being protective of Andi. I pause sometimes with him being the F1 because of how they are showing him. They've shown the F1 in bad light but not with a temper, especially of the guys. Sure we know the producers are behind it but why encourage Josh, if they see this connection that she already has with him(F1). I never seen them involve the F1 before. Sure JJ started it but Josh gladly took over and finish it. That's not being protective, that's be immature and silly.

I haven't read back through all the posts, but has it been commented on that Nick actually got involved in this, too? He didn't initiate it, but he gave witness to having heard what Andrew said in the bedroom with the guys. Nick seemed to be on the side of JJ and Josh, corroborating the evidence against Andrew. Maybe Nick wouldn't have agreed with confronting Andrew over what he did, but Nick didn't seem to think that Andrew was a stand up guy from what I recall.

pbmax wrote:

Ariela wrote:IMO, they were trying to show that Josh is a stand up guy, and already cares enough about Andi so that she's not disrespected. He's being protective. Most women like a man who will stick by them thru thick and thin ;)

This show aside, it IS disrespectful if a guy seeks phone numbers while supposedly dating you.

It also is disrespectful to the other guys there, who may be sent home because Andi may think that Andrew is into HER.

Also being a devil's advocate here....Andi deserves what Andrew is dishing. After all, she, too, seems to be leading ALL THE MEN on. Karma.

If Andi let's someone go then she's definitely not into them because I can't imigine her letting them go without a reasonable explanation this early in the show. Josh looked like someone with some issues and a temper, is what tptb was showing me and not being protective of Andi. I pause sometimes with him being the F1 because of how they are showing him. They've shown the F1 in bad light but not with a temper, especially of the guys. Sure we know the producers are behind it but why encourage Josh, if they see this connection that she already has with him(F1). I never seen them involve the F1 before. Sure JJ started it but Josh gladly took over and finish it. That's not being protective, that's be immature and silly.

Josh was calmly speaking with Andrew man-man, even when they went upstairs he was calmly speaking to one of the guys about how he would feel if someone else was cut and Andrew stayed but he wasn't really their for Andi....When it got heated was when all the guys were standing around putting their 2 cents in, everyone was heated not just Josh, Andrew was being passive aggressive to me.....

If someone followed me back through a house, chased me upstairs and tried to get into the bathroom I was in to "talk to me", I don't think I would consider that calm. Just me, especially after I made a point of saying I did not want to engage. That is pursuit and not generally interpreted as calming gesture in a situation like this.

LOL @ chased.....

Kashathediva wrote:If someone followed me back through a house, chased me upstairs and tried to get into the bathroom I was in to "talk to me", I don't think I would consider that calm. Just me, especially after I made a point of saying I did not want to engage. That is pursuit and not generally interpreted as calming gesture in a situation like this.

Yes, that was the part that I hope was acting.

Kashathediva wrote:If someone followed me back through a house, chased me upstairs and tried to get into the bathroom I was in to "talk to me", I don't think I would consider that calm. Just me, especially after I made a point of saying I did not want to engage. That is pursuit and not generally interpreted as calming gesture in a situation like this.

I thought the pursuing was done by JJ, not Josh who we could hear downstairs talking calmly to the others. or did I hear/see it wrong?

Anyway... here are some of my thoughts on what we saw last night...

http://sophienettejc.thedeadone.net/2014/06/03/the-bachelorette-2014-episode-03-review-on-boyz-and-men/

Kashathediva wrote:If someone followed me back through a house, chased me upstairs and tried to get into the bathroom I was in to "talk to me", I don't think I would consider that calm. Just me, especially after I made a point of saying I did not want to engage. That is pursuit and not generally interpreted as calming gesture in a situation like this.

Exactly! cause you would walk your grown azz on back and sat down somewhere and act like a man. Remember what you really there for, to be the next lead, oh I mean to get the girl.

sophienette wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:If someone followed me back through a house, chased me upstairs and tried to get into the bathroom I was in to "talk to me", I don't think I would consider that calm. Just me, especially after I made a point of saying I did not want to engage. That is pursuit and not generally interpreted as calming gesture in a situation like this.

I thought the pursuing was done by JJ, not Josh who we could hear downstairs talking calmly to the others. or did I hear/see it wrong?

If you did, then I did as well. From what I recall, JJ was the one in hot oursuit for the most part.

I don't have access to the video, but I am pretty sure I remember it being both JJ and Josh. I was amazed that they pursued Andrew all through the mansion, past guys in convo, bounded up the mansion steps and then proceeded to knock on the bathroom door!
I was in stitches. I was hoping they would open the door to see the Mask sitting on the pot!

sophienette wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:If someone followed me back through a house, chased me upstairs and tried to get into the bathroom I was in to "talk to me", I don't think I would consider that calm. Just me, especially after I made a point of saying I did not want to engage. That is pursuit and not generally interpreted as calming gesture in a situation like this.

I thought the pursuing was done by JJ, not Josh who we could hear downstairs talking calmly to the others. or did I hear/see it wrong?

Both JJ. & Josh commented upstairs to a female employee before talking to the door.  We were only shown JJ ascending.

Kashathediva wrote:I don't have access to the video, but I am pretty sure I remember it being both JJ and Josh. I was amazed that they pursued Andrew all through the mansion, past guys in convo, bounded up the mansion steps and then proceeded to knock on the bathroom door!
I was in stitches. I was hoping they would open the door to see the Mask sitting on the pot!

    The mask! That was so vaudevillian