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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
^^^
This is just my opinion I think Nick played along as though he wanted the Bachelor gig. He is great friends with Élan and most of the producers on this show like him. They wanted to think Ben H was not the lead because it was quite obvious he was getting the gig. I think Nick played along with them for the fun and suspense of it. I really think he thought about at first but after talking with his family and knowing he would leave a great job that he loves and seems to be paid very well for it. It was not worth it this time around. I think he is at a great place right now with his job, life, and new modeling gig that approached him. I know that he wishes Ben the best but it was time for him to step away from TPTB. He came out of this season much better than last and that is all he could ask for. I really still to this day think that he only went on this show for K but things worked out best for both parties. Not the girl Nick thought she was when it truly came down to it.
This is just my opinion I think Nick played along as though he wanted the Bachelor gig. He is great friends with Élan and most of the producers on this show like him. They wanted to think Ben H was not the lead because it was quite obvious he was getting the gig. I think Nick played along with them for the fun and suspense of it. I really think he thought about at first but after talking with his family and knowing he would leave a great job that he loves and seems to be paid very well for it. It was not worth it this time around. I think he is at a great place right now with his job, life, and new modeling gig that approached him. I know that he wishes Ben the best but it was time for him to step away from TPTB. He came out of this season much better than last and that is all he could ask for. I really still to this day think that he only went on this show for K but things worked out best for both parties. Not the girl Nick thought she was when it truly came down to it.
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
I agree with you, Whit. :Nod:
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Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, bye Felicia!
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
I'm waiting for the final verdict but until then want to share why I think Ben H could be a great choice.
IMO he is "still water running deep". Along with his imposing height - 6'4 always makes an initial impact - during season 11 he handled every situation with uncanny ease: the sex Ed GD presentation, Shawn's frenzy at the San Antonio cocktail party, Kaitlyn and her "virgin" question. I like that quiet intensity and suspect behind it all is a man amused and intellectually astute. IMO these traits would unsettle candidates just enough to fluster them and make for fun initial encounters. It's possible he gives off a bit of a mysterious vibe in person... the boyish charm that possibly hides a slightly naughty kinda guy. So little is known about him at this point which could serve up surprises.
He can be no nonsense as shown when he directly confronted K about what happened when he was in the shower. That showed fortitude and perceptiveness plus a talent for cutting through the chaff to get to the substance instead of letting things fester. A good trait for a lead.
I honestly didn't feel he was very interested in K so it would be intriguing to see how he would respond to those he is interested in.
He was one of the better communicators of the season. He asked about Kaitlyn's tattooes at the m&g instead of only talking about himself like many did as if they were in a job interview. He is a good listener.
When he talked about his previous relationship, he framed it by talking about his responsibility in the failure. This shows maturity and reflectiveness.
Overall, I think he would be an interesting choice. I could see many ladies being eager to vie for his attention and I think his humor may be wry and make for subtle fun.
I don't think he would be boring.
IMO he is "still water running deep". Along with his imposing height - 6'4 always makes an initial impact - during season 11 he handled every situation with uncanny ease: the sex Ed GD presentation, Shawn's frenzy at the San Antonio cocktail party, Kaitlyn and her "virgin" question. I like that quiet intensity and suspect behind it all is a man amused and intellectually astute. IMO these traits would unsettle candidates just enough to fluster them and make for fun initial encounters. It's possible he gives off a bit of a mysterious vibe in person... the boyish charm that possibly hides a slightly naughty kinda guy. So little is known about him at this point which could serve up surprises.
He can be no nonsense as shown when he directly confronted K about what happened when he was in the shower. That showed fortitude and perceptiveness plus a talent for cutting through the chaff to get to the substance instead of letting things fester. A good trait for a lead.
I honestly didn't feel he was very interested in K so it would be intriguing to see how he would respond to those he is interested in.
He was one of the better communicators of the season. He asked about Kaitlyn's tattooes at the m&g instead of only talking about himself like many did as if they were in a job interview. He is a good listener.
When he talked about his previous relationship, he framed it by talking about his responsibility in the failure. This shows maturity and reflectiveness.
Overall, I think he would be an interesting choice. I could see many ladies being eager to vie for his attention and I think his humor may be wry and make for subtle fun.
I don't think he would be boring.
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
My personal feeling is he was targeted initially the day TPTB got him on 'Ette to be the next TB.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, bye Felicia!
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
Kashathediva wrote:My personal feeling is he was targeted initially the day TPTB got him on 'Ette to be the next TB.
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
I agree that it was time for him to step away, though I do think the decision was made for him because there's no way he was going to say 'thanks, but no thanks' to that opportunity IMO.
In a little glass church built from the inspiration of dreams, their vows danced through the air
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
Great posting, Whit and ITA. It all works out in the end. Probably.whit90 wrote:^^^
This is just my opinion I think Nick played along as though he wanted the Bachelor gig. He is great friends with Élan and most of the producers on this show like him. They wanted to think Ben H was not the lead because it was quite obvious he was getting the gig. I think Nick played along with them for the fun and suspense of it. I really think he thought about at first but after talking with his family and knowing he would leave a great job that he loves and seems to be paid very well for it. It was not worth it this time around. I think he is at a great place right now with his job, life, and new modeling gig that approached him. I know that he wishes Ben the best but it was time for him to step away from TPTB. He came out of this season much better than last and that is all he could ask for. I really still to this day think that he only went on this show for K but things worked out best for both parties. Not the girl Nick thought she was when it truly came down to it.
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
I can see Nick saying thanks but no thanks. He has been busy with his new found modelling career. I think he might have been open to the idea, but after the opportunities that have come his way, his focus has shifted IMHO.
It seems Ben was from day one a possible choice, but there has also been sleuthing tips that suggested Nick was also in consideration. We can spin it any way we want, he was the 2nd choice, the Arie guy, etc, but IMO I think it certainly was on their agenda to explore the possibility.
It seems Ben was from day one a possible choice, but there has also been sleuthing tips that suggested Nick was also in consideration. We can spin it any way we want, he was the 2nd choice, the Arie guy, etc, but IMO I think it certainly was on their agenda to explore the possibility.
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
Bottom line is, Nick is not going to be the Bachelor, but his name was put out as a possible Bachelor in addition to Ben H:
... by media, Fleiss tweeting when FRC episode came and even tweeting his name, by Elan, by Chris H on After Paradise, even Amy K (who tweeted that she heard both Ben and Nick were in consideration), other Bach Alum (including Andi) bringing up Nick's name, the Nightline interview where the reporter said to Nick "Why don't you become the Bachelor? I think you'd make a great Bachelor. #TeamNick", as well as others.
So yes, Nick is not going to be the Bachelor but based on what was sleuthed Nick's name was in the running and the media more than anyone other than Ben H. It can be spinned either way (as bait and hook, etc) but it still remains a fact that Nick's name was out there and serious or not, it's still pretty cool that Nick had media and even past Bach Alums giving him approval for the role and that "Nick is sincere about love" was the spin they gave. After two stints on this show, and for a polarizing guy whose motives were questioned, that's not too shabby, IMHO.
... by media, Fleiss tweeting when FRC episode came and even tweeting his name, by Elan, by Chris H on After Paradise, even Amy K (who tweeted that she heard both Ben and Nick were in consideration), other Bach Alum (including Andi) bringing up Nick's name, the Nightline interview where the reporter said to Nick "Why don't you become the Bachelor? I think you'd make a great Bachelor. #TeamNick", as well as others.
So yes, Nick is not going to be the Bachelor but based on what was sleuthed Nick's name was in the running and the media more than anyone other than Ben H. It can be spinned either way (as bait and hook, etc) but it still remains a fact that Nick's name was out there and serious or not, it's still pretty cool that Nick had media and even past Bach Alums giving him approval for the role and that "Nick is sincere about love" was the spin they gave. After two stints on this show, and for a polarizing guy whose motives were questioned, that's not too shabby, IMHO.
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
I am excited for Monday if/when Ben is announced as the Bachelor so Nick can stop being mentioned in this thread
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Re: The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2
But when you aren't the lead, there isn't much else for you to do . Life goes on. Now he can model and sell clothes and liketoknowit to his heart's content.
In a little glass church built from the inspiration of dreams, their vows danced through the air
like smoke from a vigil candle, consummating a love now deeply matured. -Zak Waddell
like smoke from a vigil candle, consummating a love now deeply matured. -Zak Waddell
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loveactually9 wrote:I am excited for Monday if/when Ben is announced as the Bachelor so Nick can stop being mentioned in this thread
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