The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

LB never accepted a rose and then changed her mind, she just declined it outright. I have a feeling it's either B or D that happened to JoJo.

I'm going with B or E just because they're the less obvious ones IMO. Fleiss alluded to it and RS has said the villain this season is physical and tried to fight pretty much every guy in the house, so I'm guessing he either gets into it with a producer or JoJo kicks him out early one episode and says to get the heck out of there.

My super sleuthing skills found the answer to one of Reality Steve's teasers. On his 4/26 post he mentioned that "Two guys on the season have somewhat of a 'history' together." By digging through facebook I found that Wells Adams and Nicholas Benvenutti have been friends for more than over six years. Their families are friends too.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=691184728166&set=a.691183879866.2236341.6500752&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=691184378866&set=a.691183879866.2236341.6500752&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=747658988296&set=a.747658509256.2301256.6500752&type=3&theater

How odd that after many years of a long friendship they'd both go on a dating show for the same girl?

california90 wrote:E) Emily telling Kalon to get the F out of here
D) LB from Ben's season gets a rose but rejects it
C) Bentley thought it was going to be Emily instead of Ashley

Has A and B happened before?

A is so random and has not happened before so that is the most plausible to me. A drunk happens every season ...most recently Lace, but pushing a producer not that I have heard so it could have happened, maybe the guy who is the villain of the season that wants to fight all the guys ....I could imagine him doing it.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how often the F1 has gotten the last FD? Not while it airs on television, but during actual filming? Just off the top of my head in recent seasons I know that Lauren and Josh both got the last one.

Nice job Opal!

@Ash2214 maybe @Aunties_Love has those stats.

Ash2214 wrote:Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how often the F1 has gotten the last FD? Not while it airs on television, but during actual filming? Just off the top of my head in recent seasons I know that Lauren and Josh both got the last one.

HTD order


Filming order is the last number

HTD order

bette 6

F1: 1st
F2: 2nd



bette 7

F1: 3rd
F2: 1st
F3: 2nd
F4: 4th


bette 8

F1: 2nd
F2: 3rd
F3: 4th
F4: 1st

bette 9

F1: 3rd
F2: 1st
F3: 4th
F4: 2nd


bette 10

F1: 3rd
F2: 1st
F3: 2nd
F4: 4th

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Bachelor:


10:
F1: 3rd
F2: 1st
F3: 2nd
F4: 4th


11:

F1: 2nd
F2: 3rd
F3: 4th
F4: 1st


15

F1: 2nd
F3: 4th




17

F1: 2nd
F2: 3rd
F3: 1st
F4: 4th

18

F1: 2nd
F2: 1st
F3: 3rd
F4: 4th


19

F1: Whitney/ Chris's birthday
F2: 2nd
F3: 3rd
F4: 4th

Thanks @Aunties_Love! Much appreciated!

I corrected the order of the HTD's and added a few seasons that I found the stats for so will also put a post in the stats.

Hey I'd like to start a new conversation to speculate on.

Which gentlemen received the first impression rose?

I'm going to go with Luke Pell. These are the reasons why I think he stood out on night 1. I think the call back to JoJo's unicorn idea was a cute idea. He probably mention their Southern connection, he's glad she was chosen to be the lead("I'm here for you"), and that she's what he's always been looking for, a Texan girl. A handful of his tweets mention how he wants to find a Texan girl to settle down with. In the screen cap of the rose ceremony toast from the teaser, he's standing to JoJo's right. People that receive roses before a RC are off to the right of the group so that's a big reason why I think he got the first impression rose.

Hey! I'm a new poster so I hope I do this right.

Opal, didn't the 3 guys wearing roses represent first impression roses on night one? If not, why aren't the other guys toasting wearing roses?

I went back to look at the screen cap. Yeah it's weird how only three guys are seen with rose clips and no one else is during the champagne toast. Because Luke made it to at least top four, the others were eliminated early, and 1st impression rose recipients make it far, I'm sorta guessing.