Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

california90 wrote:

sosleepy wrote:Yeah... 2 years later and I STILL think former Lawyer & #25 were very well matched. She chose poorly.

He needs an Andi type. For sure. A ballbuster, someone to keep him on his toes, but also keep him in line and interested. I totally agree, JoJo is too soft and needy for him. Kaitlyn was way too jokster/free spirit for him. Andi. He needs an Andi.

I agree with you. I think she chose poorly. I think Nick and Andi had crazy chemistry. Andi always talked about how Nick got her mentally, something I don't think Josh would have got. Nick was the right guy for Andi at that point in time. I wouldn't say now obviously or wish them back together.

I also think that if she had chosen Nick, she might have been on a different path than she is now. Who knows-- she might have stuck with her old career. Or moved to Chicago with Nick and did something else. I always felt like Nick would have been more supportive and she would have grown a bit more. But this is all left to the imagination of 'what if's' and so many scenarios could have played out.

With that said, I do think Nick needs someone like Andi pre-ATFR (career oriented, smart, etc.), but with a dash of Jojo- mainly her sweet nature. Someone to keep him on his toes, smart, sassy, confident. Hoping there is someone like that for him.

sosleepy wrote:

california90 wrote:

sosleepy wrote:Yeah... 2 years later and I STILL think former Lawyer & #25 were very well matched. She chose poorly.

He needs an Andi type. For sure. A ballbuster, someone to keep him on his toes, but also keep him in line and interested. I totally agree, JoJo is too soft and needy for him. Kaitlyn was way too jokster/free spirit for him. Andi. He needs an Andi.

I agree with you. I think she chose poorly. I think Nick and Andi had crazy chemistry. Andi always talked about how Nick got her mentally, something I don't think Josh would have got. Nick was the right guy for Andi at that point in time. I wouldn't say now obviously or wish them back together.

I also think that if she had chosen Nick, she might have been on a different path than she is now. Who knows-- she might have stuck with her old career. Or moved to Chicago with Nick and did something else. I always felt like Nick would have been more supportive and she would have grown a bit more. But this is all left to the imagination of 'what if's' and so many scenarios could have played out.

With that said, I do think Nick needs someone like Andi pre-ATFR (career oriented, smart, etc.), but with a dash of Jojo- mainly her sweet nature. Someone to keep him on his toes, smart, sassy, confident. Hoping there is someone like that for him.

I kind of see it this way too. What could of been.

BUT, I'm glad it happened the way it did. Had Andi chosen Nick, it would have FOR SURE been The Bachelor: Josh Murray. ****shudder***** I'll let you all stew on that potential travesty. We also would have missed out on Nick's epic story arch as the double dumpee TOG, turned Bachelor. I mean, when you stop and think about it, Nick's trajectory is legendary in Bachelor universe. He's right up there with Mesnick for making killer storylines. So thank you, Dorfman for picking Josh.

I wouldn't mind Andi coming back to compete for Nick though. If there is going to be a returnee this season, it's her or nothing.

sosleepy wrote:

california90 wrote:

sosleepy wrote:Yeah... 2 years later and I STILL think former Lawyer & #25 were very well matched. She chose poorly.

He needs an Andi type. For sure. A ballbuster, someone to keep him on his toes, but also keep him in line and interested. I totally agree, JoJo is too soft and needy for him. Kaitlyn was way too jokster/free spirit for him. Andi. He needs an Andi.

I agree with you. I think she chose poorly. I think Nick and Andi had crazy chemistry. Andi always talked about how Nick got her mentally, something I don't think Josh would have got. Nick was the right guy for Andi at that point in time. I wouldn't say now obviously or wish them back together.

I also think that if she had chosen Nick, she might have been on a different path than she is now. Who knows-- she might have stuck with her old career. Or moved to Chicago with Nick and did something else. I always felt like Nick would have been more supportive and she would have grown a bit more. But this is all left to the imagination of 'what if's' and so many scenarios could have played out.

With that said, I do think Nick needs someone like Andi pre-ATFR (career oriented, smart, etc.), but with a dash of Jojo- mainly her sweet nature. Someone to keep him on his toes, smart, sassy, confident. Hoping there is someone like that for him.

I kind of see it this way too. What could of been.

BUT, I'm glad it happened the way it did. Had Andi chosen Nick, it would have FOR SURE been The Bachelor: Josh Murray. ****shudder***** I'll let you all stew on that potential travesty. We also would have missed out on Nick's epic story arch as the double dumpee TOG, turned Bachelor. I mean, when you stop and think about it, Nick's trajectory is legendary in Bachelor universe. He's right up there with Mesnick for making killer storylines. So thank you, Dorfman for picking Josh.

I wouldn't mind Andi coming back to compete for Nick though. If there is going to be a returnee this season, it's her or nothing.

mindless wrote:I don't think Andi was ever his perfect match. Even his mom could see it, and when his sister asked him if Andi makes him laugh, he said she makes him smile. I think Andi is way too uptight and neurotic for him, not to mention very concerned about her image to the point she's always putting on a front and contradicting herself. She's not really confident in who she is, and she's not honest. This is the only requirement she fulfils: https://www.instagram.com/p/y7vFhRswzZ/?taken-by=nickviall

These however? Nah.
https://www.instagram.com/p/3pTw-Xsw0C/?taken-by=nickviall
https://www.instagram.com/p/75p21_sww3/?taken-by=nickviall
https://www.instagram.com/p/8Heh_qswze/?taken-by=nickviall
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDo9NUbsw6c/?taken-by=nickviall

sosleepy wrote:Yeah... 2 years later and I STILL think former Lawyer & #25 were very well matched. She chose poorly.

He needs an Andi type. For sure. A ballbuster, someone to keep him on his toes, but also keep him in line and interested. I totally agree, JoJo is too soft and needy for him. Kaitlyn was way too jokster/free spirit for him. Andi. He needs an Andi.

ReneeM wrote:honestly the only thing that would disappoint me about Nick's season is if he ended up picking someone who's vanilla. It's just a coincidence with the blonde/brunette thing but the last bachelor F1 to not be boring to me is Catherine. I like the others but they're total snoozes IMO