Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

GuardianAngel wrote:

emusha wrote:This article very clearly illustrates IMHO how Nick has changed sooo much since his first season with Dorfman. The things he used to say I can't imagine him saying now. There's an innocence and naivety about the old nick that's just gone with some of the romance still there...
http://people.com/tv/nick-viall-new-bachelor-quotes-on-love/

It's funny how we see things differently. I started to copy some exerts that I found I still see in him, but then found all of it IMO is the same Nick. Especially this.

I wasn’t really concerned about being a fan favorite. I like being liked – who doesn’t like being liked? – but it wasn’t my ultimate goal. For better or worse I tend to say what I think and say how I feel, and let people form their own opinions, and I’m fine with that. I’d rather be myself than be something I’m not and be liked by every single person.”

Yeah I'm not seeing the great shift. If anything, this just confirmed what I've long believed, that Nick really and truly fell in love with Andi while what he had with Kaitlyn was a nice friendship with great sexual chemistry. I never believed Nick was in love with Kaitlyn once while watching that season. I believe they liked having sex with each other, but love, yeah no. So it's telling that the most intense and passionate quotes in that article came from his letter to Andi and there's nothing about his feelings for Kaitlyn.

LOL yea it is probably a matter of seeing things differently. I look forward to seeing much more of him in his season to 'really get to know him' like he said however much that would be possible... I do find him intriguing and I think he shows more of himself than most other ppl on this show do but he's also a bit of an enigma in my opinion because he has many dynamic and evolving aspects of his personality...

The biggest difference in him that I see is the increased value he places on the public attention he gets and the lifestyle that enables. The growth I see in him has to do with his slightly increasing savviness especially when communicating and handling the media. There was a naive unpolished rawness to his comments before and less so now (probably better for him). And finally - I think he's much more guarded when it comes to relationships. I'd be curious to see how mature his F1 would be (since age is but a number) cos from what he says he seems to enjoy ppl who are self-aware, intellectual and mature but at the same time his current friends include the LA crew and Ashley I etc...

He's still def the most interesting person that's ever been on this show for me

lleyki wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

emusha wrote:This article very clearly illustrates IMHO how Nick has changed sooo much since his first season with Dorfman. The things he used to say I can't imagine him saying now. There's an innocence and naivety about the old nick that's just gone with some of the romance still there...
http://people.com/tv/nick-viall-new-bachelor-quotes-on-love/

It's funny how we see things differently. I started to copy some exerts that I found I still see in him, but then found all of it IMO is the same Nick. Especially this.

I wasn’t really concerned about being a fan favorite. I like being liked – who doesn’t like being liked? – but it wasn’t my ultimate goal. For better or worse I tend to say what I think and say how I feel, and let people form their own opinions, and I’m fine with that. I’d rather be myself than be something I’m not and be liked by every single person.”

Yeah I'm not seeing the great shift. If anything, this just confirmed what I've long believed, that Nick really and truly fell in love with Andi while what he had with Kaitlyn was a nice friendship with great sexual chemistry. I never believed Nick was in love with Kaitlyn once while watching that season. I believe they liked having sex with each other, but love, yeah no. So it's telling that the most intense and passionate quotes in that article came from his letter to Andi and there's nothing about his feelings for Kaitlyn.

I agree with this 100%. I have always said that I didn't think Nick really fell in love with Kaitlyn. He seemed to get over her really quick too. I do think he really fell in love with Andi though.  jmo

notarose wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

notarose wrote:@onepromise I can't tell if she is Elizabeth W.  
I rewatched some of the BSB vids and none I watched have a clear enough view of her.  There was an extended side profile view but we don't have a profile view of Elizabeth for comparison.

I found these on google and they all go back to her known SM links that are offline right now including her twitter and they went back to her Linkedin one too.







https://twitter.com/ebwhitelaw22/status/760495350180220930
https://uk.pinterest.com/thetapearls22/
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Elizabeth+Whitelaw&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0sJ72n_LPAhUCw2MKHStUAMoQsAQIKg&biw=1252&bih=537#imgrc=6fFchjBE2-9f3M%3A
https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethwhitelaw

It could be the same person.

I meant the pic in NO that's named Elizabeth Whitelaw. I thought that is what you were talking about too...

IMO the taller blond in the front of that NO pic is Elizabeth and in the back of that NO pic is Danielle M.

I don't think Elizabeth is tall jmo

All I am saying is that Elizabeth is taller than the newest addition; Sarah.  IMO it is Sarah that is #10 in the below pic and it is Elizabeth that is taller one next to her.  Again going by hair length compared to Danielle M who's hair length is considerably shorter.


pic from New Orleans and posted earlier in this thread

lmao, this is probably really immature but the spoiler of someone coming in as a camel because Nick likes to "hump"... hysterical.

I know. Finally a gimmick that makes me laugh.

@bluwavz @california90 I thought the camel/"hump" thing was funny, too  I wonder who did that?

I've noticed that the f2 usually has a gimmicky entrance (Lindzi, Clare, Lindsay, Jojo, Chantal, Molly). I'm sure that's just a coincidence but I'd like one of his frontrunners to have done that! Nick's always the first to make fun of himself, so I feel like he would appreciate that.

Where did that spoiler come from? TYIA

RS website