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Post by Dessler Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:00 pm

Sure the pressure will be different but Des, Jojo, Andi handled the pressure and everyone told them how wonderful they are so I am sure she will be just fine handling the pressure. Like I said the decisions that she makes will determine whether she goes up or down.

So here's hoping Rachel makes good decisions and us having a great season. wine
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Post by Kashathediva Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:06 pm

I think TPTB go out of their way to make the 'Ettes crack. All of the 'Ettes above had multiple meltdown moments. I expect this coming season will be no exception.
And yeah, I don't think there will be many "walk away or talk to the hand moments" that camera(boom) has a mind of it's own



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Post by coolangel Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:14 pm

Dessler wrote: Her season won't be different from any other bachelorette, they will have their storylines and she will responsible for her actions/decisions. Jojo was portrayed as herself, same with Kaitlyn and Andi JMO

Jojo is far from the whiny, needy woman who constantly seeks validation from Jordan like they portrayed her on her season. They even got the guys to question her character and motivations through the magazine fiasco. For Kaitlyn, the show basically sl*t-shamed her for something that apparently has happened in the past seasons but never made it to air. I am far from a Kaitlyn fan but the show took her bold personality and used it against her on the season. All JMO.
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Post by ReneeM Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:16 pm

I can't remember any of the bachelorette's being presented as something they weren't. IMO The lead ette's post show, are who they were shown to be on the show. Des, Andi, Kaitlyn, Jojo, are the same people now that watching their seasons I thought they were. So it just comes down to who you think Rachel is IMO. I think she's awesome. IMO she's smart, funny, charming, self aware, and self assured. All of which I think will help her in her journey. I'm sure she'll have her stumbles and drama because every lead does, but I also think in the end, she'll come out ok. All JMO.

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Post by notarose Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:18 pm

I think Rachel's talk about struggle during the Bach was because she is a strong personality that included the quality leadership.  Ex of leadership is how she was the voice of reason to several of the girls in the house according to my interpretation of what some of the girls have said in interviews.
IMO being the lead is more in her comfort zone.  And Rachel said in an interview that Nick told her to maintain her level of skepticism while she was on the Bach.  I think skepticidm is also important in a Bette as its important initially in weeding out authenticity.
IMO Bette is a more natural fit for Rachel than being 1 of many.


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Post by Dessler Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:23 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] We have very different prospectives because the way I viewed it was different.

I love Jo^3 so much, I did not think she was whiny but she loved Jordan so much that she wanted validation from him and that what was shown apart from that she was herself IMO

I enjoyed watching Kaitlyn, she was funny and somethings that she did and what was shown was so on par with her character. I thought that it was America who sl*t shamed her IMO. They showed what happened between Nick and Kaitlyn, they showed Kaitlyn being remorseful about itand telling Shawn.

At the end of the day, the pressure will come and they will tested but their actions and decisions will determine how their season is viewed IMO
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Post by ReneeM Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:30 pm

coolangel wrote:
Dessler wrote: Her season won't be different from any other bachelorette, they will have their storylines and she will responsible for her actions/decisions. Jojo was portrayed as herself, same with Kaitlyn and Andi JMO

Jojo is far from the whiny, needy woman who constantly seeks validation from Jordan like they portrayed her on her season. They even got the guys to question her character and motivations through the magazine fiasco. For Kaitlyn, the show basically sl*t-shamed her for something that apparently has happened in the past seasons but never made it to air. I am far from a Kaitlyn fan but the show took her bold personality and used it against her on the season. All JMO.

As someone who's a fan of Jojo and follows her closely, IRL she's pretty much exactly who she was on the show IMO. The only difference is that she no longer needs to seek validation from Jordan because she's no longer in the format of a show that makes her question his feelings for her. She's still our needy Jo IMO. I'm also a fan of Kaitlyn and IMO the show portrayed her as someone who speaks & acts before they think things through, someone who puts more value in how they feel ITM rather than thinking about future effects of that decision. IMO Post show that's exactly how Kaitlyn's been. All JMO.

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Post by coolangel Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:31 pm

Dessler wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] We have very different prospectives because the way I viewed it was different.

I love Jo^3 so much, I did not think she was whiny but she loved Jordan so much that she wanted validation from him and that what was shown apart from that she was herself IMO

I enjoyed watching Kaitlyn, she was funny and somethings that she did and  what was shown was so on par with her character. I thought that it was America who sl*t shamed her IMO. They showed what happened between Nick and Kaitlyn, they showed Kaitlyn being remorseful about itand telling Shawn.

At the end of the day, the pressure will come and they will tested but their actions and decisions will determine how their season is viewed IMO

I didn't think Jojo was whiny the same way I don't think Vanessa is whiny this season. She had really strong feelings for Jordan which showed. But most of the recaps/SM I read last season painted her as such. With Kaitlyn, America sl*t-shamed her coz TPTB gave them the storyline to. Many leads have hooked up with contestants prior to FS (even MF has admitted it) but it was never shown yet they made it the storyline of Kaitlyn's entire season.

IMO what TPTB choose to show will determine how the season is viewed irrespective of the actions and decisions of the leads. All JMO.
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Post by Guest Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:58 pm

In the past contestants hooked up before FS with the lead?

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Post by coolangel Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:08 pm

reason wrote:In the past contestants hooked up before FS with the lead?

Yup. MF is on record saying that Bob Guiney hooked up with 5.5 girls on the show (whatever that 0.5 means). No confirmation about the others but contestants have alluded to it.
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Post by Guest Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:10 pm

Bob Guiney everyone knew that back when, but now I would not think so, other than Nick and Kaitlyn.

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Post by ericbutterfly Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:47 pm

This is random but I remember in the trailer Vanessa crying and saying "I am so fed up"... was that in Bimini? I also remember a small clip that was played before the premier of the bachelor 21 and it showed Rachel crying with the same outfit she wore on her date in Bimini and she said "This is so fake", does anyone remember those clips?
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