Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - 2

Rach doesn't like V for whatever reason idk, why in the world does she need to say anything regarding her? She didn't trash her and that's all the graciousness I needed anyway.

This is my thoughts: You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Be nice to those you meet on the way up because you will meet them on the way down. Don't burn bridges needlessly. JMO
Bach Nation might be a growing faction, but the leads and couples are a much smaller subset. It's always good to have support because you never know when you will need it. Kindness is free and gives back in multitudes. Pettiness costs the person being petty more than the person/s it's aimed at.
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ReneeM wrote:Rachel does not have to kiss Vanessa's a*s. Rachel does not have to wish her well. Rachel does not have to acknowledge Vanessa's existence! This entire season Rachel's acknowledged that woman's existence on the show a grand total of once, during that IG live to confirm that she doesn't like her. IMO She has nothing nice to say about Vanessa, so last night, she said nothing. Which is what I wanted her to do during that IG live so I'm not seeing the issue tbh. I can't remember guys from Jojo's season wishing her well with Jordan. Or Kaitlyn with Shawn. All JMO.

No IA Rachel doesn't have to do anything she wants to do. It's MY opinion that she's being rude and inconsiderate for not wishing the engaged couple happiness. Some guys from JoJo's season that weren't the next lead didn't matter, they have shown their true colours as well. She is the next lead. People have different morals in life, personally I like to be kind and considerate no matter how much I dislike someone. That's my opinion. I personally don't care what Rachel does or doesn't do, for discussion purpose, it's MY opinion that she is setting an example, screw you I don't like you attitude, which I personally don't care for.

She will have her plate full of negative comments from SM viewers, hopefully she can let it all slide without lashing back at them.

Kashathediva wrote:This is my thoughts: You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Be nice to those you meet on the way up because you will meet them on the way down. Don't burn bridges needlessly. JMO
Bach Nation might be a growing faction, but the leads and couples are a much smaller subset. It's always good to have support because you never know when you will need it. Kindness is free and gives back in multitudes. Pettiness costs the person being petty more than the person/s it's aimed at.
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Total disagree in this context. Nick did his best to embarrass the first lead he sexed and has only been rewarded by this show IMO. Petty on and on and on, Rach IMO

He sexed?? More like they.

The first lead was so embarrassed she capitalized on her FS activities with the F2 before choosing the F1 and lying to him about it by writing a book and making an appearance on his own show.

IMO her wishing Nick well in the future is good enough for me. I personally can't fake it with someone I don't like and don't see why I should have to.

Rachel will have to cross her bridge of negitivity she will and is receiving as the lead. Happens every season, IMO this one will be no different.

GuardianAngel wrote:He sexed?? More like they.

The first lead was so embarrassed she capitalized on her FS activities with the F2 before choosing the F1 and lying to him about it by writing a book and making an appearance on his own show.

Yep, she was a willing participant and made some serious lemonade from this situation IMO. Good point and good luck to all the other 20+ (probably IMO) he's enjoyed too, including Rachel.

Rachel is the ette. No pettiness is needed at this point. Move along & be the bigger person. If you're gonna congratulate Nick include his fiance. I don't care how much you hate her. It's called being respectful. I still find Rachel very entitled that she got the gig. I don't find her humble about this experience at all. Her aura gives me Andi vibes. Must be an attorney thing. JMO

Has it been confirmed he had sex with Rachel?

GuardianAngel wrote:Has it been confirmed he had sex with Rachel?

I have no idea, I'm not Steve who seems to hide under their beds  I assume yes though.

I don't think he did, fwiw...

Billysmom wrote:I don't think he did, fwiw...

That's the one thing I've seen no one else question. Not even a little. Her full body PJs sure were cute, though.