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Post by GuardianAngel Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:02 pm

The link on his bio was removed.

Here is the link taken from a s/shot of his first thread on the first page.

https://shop.totallifechanges.com/tea305/

@Kashathediva I'm not seeing ad's for the tea?


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Post by Kashathediva Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:03 pm

Continue scrolling through the IG. I think I saw a couple from January 2017 on back. If not for tea something similar herbalist, which is the same genre to me. IMO.
ETA--Jan. 6, 2017: :Iaso tea photo then it goes back sporadically.



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Post by GuardianAngel Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:08 pm

Ok yes, I saw the older ones. I thought there were more recent ones that I didn't see. TY


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Post by Kashathediva Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:12 pm

I could not find anything after January on his IG.



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Post by MiaHawk Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:27 pm

Thank you for providing the link. I am probably going way off topic here, so delete this if I go too far...

Like @Kashathediva said, the issue of health practitioners selling products is a common one today and is complicated.  I work in the health care field myself and find that I am very torn on this issue.  Very torn. Which leads me to come to the conclusion that as long as a product in my (personal professional) opinion 'appears to be safe' in its ingredients list and won't under typical circumstances in the average person 'do harm', then whether the product should be purchased or used is up to the discretion of the consumer.  In other words, safety is caveat to me. Whether it works is secondary.

Just so that it's clear, here is the USA vitamins and herbal products do not undergo the same testing (for purity/strength/contamination/safety/efficacy) that prescription drugs do.  Therefore, anytime you buy and consume any OTC vitamin/herbal/nutritional product, you are believing on face value what the company is touting (what ingredients and strength it advertises on its label are actually inside the package and the health claims).

Most of the time, the claims are based on some previous data that a certain vitamin has been observed to do this or that in our bodies and therefore would be useful for condition A or B.  So, proprietary blends of certain vitamins/minerals/nutraceuticals are developed and marketed and sold and consumed for their believed health benefits. There are no FDA clinical trials for nutritional supplements. Not with the tea and not with any of the similar products sold across the globe.  You either believe in the previous data/claims and feel you would like to use these products because the benefit to you outweighs the risks, or you forego them. It is a personal decision.

I took a very, very quick look at what is sold in the TLC product line. I am absolutely NOT giving any of it my personal stamp of approval, but from the very very quick peak I took, it seems like typical herbal, nutritional supplements.  The tea is advertised for its many theoretical health benefits. Many, many, many supposed health benefits. Are they true? IDK. Herbal products are not held to the same strict testing and efficacy standards as pharmaceuticals are. Herbal products are not regulated by the FDA like pharmaceuticals are.
So, with this, as with all other similar products, it is up to the consumer to do their research, ask questions, be informed, and make their own decision.

As for why a chiropractor would sell such products: IMO it fits with their ideals and career goals---natural, holistic, health and wellness first.  I personally know chiropractors and know many people who are patients of chiropractors. In my experience, they do tend towards natural, holistic, non-drug solutions to health problems. That's what they've studied and that is what they practice. It's the same thing for other health specialists. Surgeons may feel surgery is the best answer (or not), Physical therapists may think that therapy is the best answer (or not), Pharmacists may think that prescription medications are good therapies (or not). It all depends on where you come from and where you comfort zone is.

The thing about being a health professional is that it is never about just throwing a procedure/product at a patient as the end-all-be-all answer. It's knowing that your particular piece of the healthcare pie is just that-one piece. Everything needs to be individualized and supervised and reassessed. Personally, I'm more disheartened and disappointed in the casual opioid prescribing that many physicians have done over the last couple of decades which has contributed greatly to the current heroin epidemic than I would be about chiropractors over-promising results from a cleansing tea. JMHOAA.


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Post by Kashathediva Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:37 pm

MiaHawk wrote:Thank you for providing the link. I am probably going way off topic here, so delete this if I go too far...

Like @Kashathediva said, the issue of health practitioners selling products is a common one today and is complicated.  I work in the health care field myself and find that I am very torn on this issue.  Very torn. Which leads me to come to the conclusion that as long as a product in my (personal professional) opinion 'appears to be safe' in its ingredients list and won't under typical circumstances in the average person 'do harm', then whether the product should be purchased or used is up to the discretion of the consumer.  In other words, safety is caveat to me. Whether it works is secondary.

Just so that it's clear, here is the USA vitamins and herbal products do not undergo the same testing (for purity/strength/contamination/safety/efficacy) that prescription drugs do.  Therefore, anytime you buy and consume any OTC vitamin/herbal/nutritional product, you are believing on face value what the company is touting (what ingredients and strength it advertises on its label are actually inside the package and the health claims).

Most of the time, the claims are based on some previous data that a certain vitamin has been observed to do this or that in our bodies and therefore would be useful for condition A or B.  So, proprietary blends of certain vitamins/minerals/nutraceuticals are developed and marketed and sold and consumed for their believed health benefits. There are no FDA clinical trials for nutritional supplements. Not with the tea and not with any of the similar products sold across the globe.  You either believe in the previous data/claims and feel you would like to use these products because the benefit to you outweighs the risks, or you forego them. It is a personal decision.

I took a very, very quick look at what is sold in the TLC product line. I am absolutely NOT giving any of it my personal stamp of approval, but from the very very quick peak I took, it seems like typical herbal, nutritional supplements.  The tea is advertised for its many theoretical health benefits. Many, many, many supposed health benefits. Are they true? IDK. Herbal products are not held to the same strict testing and efficacy standards as pharmaceuticals are. Herbal products are not regulated by the FDA like pharmaceuticals are.
So, with this, as with all other similar products, it is up to the consumer to do their research, ask questions, be informed, and make their own decision.

As for why a chiropractor would sell such products: IMO it fits with their ideals and career goals---natural, wholistic, health and wellness first.  I personally know chiropractors and know many people who are patients of chiropractors. In my experience, they do tend towards natural, wholistic, non-drug solutions to health problems. That's what they've studied and that is what they practice. It's the same thing for other health specialists. Surgeons may feel surgery is the best answer (or not), Physical therapists may think that therapy is the best answer (or not), Pharmacists may think that prescription medications are good therapies (or not). It all depends on where you come from and where you comfort zone is.

The thing about being a health professional is that it is never about just throwing a procedure/product at a patient as the end-all-be-all answer. It's knowing that your particular piece of the healthcare pie is just that-one piece. Everything needs to be individualized and supervised and reassessed. Personally, I'm more disheartened and disappointed in the casual opioid prescribing that many physicians have done over the last couple of decades which has contributed greatly to the current heroin epidemic than I would be about chiropractors over-promising results from a cleansing tea. JMHOAA.


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Post by Guest Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:58 pm

Okay I know people are questioning Bryan's intentions, but I have a question: do you guys think he would REALLY get engaged if he wasn't happy or in love with her? I mean she is really gushing about her F1, so if it's Bryan, I hope it's genuine. He seems like a decent dude to me IMO.

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Post by mercieme Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:01 pm

@A1day1....if Bryan is F1, IMO based on how Rachel was gushing in post show interviews, then he makes her happy. And that's all that matters at the end of the day to me because the leads know better than me in terms of what's good for them Hugesmile

On another note, other than Bryan being sleuthed to like some IG posts today, has he been spotted anywhere. I feel the need to account for his whereabout laugh out loud

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Post by brownravens Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:02 pm

Here's Bryan with a TLC video - unsure if it's been posted before...

It's tad snake oil vibes though dizzy hmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCPxrwwkxuI&t=6s
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:04 pm

My personal opinion is that he would because I do think he not only came into the show wanting to win but also wanting the attendant fame/influence that comes along with it. Nothing wrong with coming onto the show for wanting to gain Instagram followers IMO, I just would have an issue with someone leading the lead on in order to further their popularity. That said, I do think from all that we have seen so far, if he is F1, he seems like he did genuinely fall for her.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:09 pm

brownravens wrote:Here's Bryan with a TLC video - unsure if it's been posted before...

It's tad snake oil vibes though dizzy hmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCPxrwwkxuI&t=6s

Yup. This vid and his instagram advertisements is what gave me and gives me pause about Bryan. My thing is, if you're someone who believes in natural healing and taking a holistic approach to health, advertising weight-loss teas that will help you instantly lose 5 pounds in 5 days or give you great boosts in energy is contradictory to the idea of holistic healing, IMO. Not to mention, I was struck by how genuine and earnest he seemed to be peddling this stuff.

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Post by GuardianAngel Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:14 pm

I can't see this product making anyone a ton of money by selling it. I would think he was promoting it because he believes in it, that's just me. It was uploaded two years ago. He hasn't promoted it on his IG since Jan/17 and removed the link from his IG bio.

If he's a natural chiropractor physician, he must believe in it. It sounds like it's no different then the endless teas that are available at my local health store where I buy my cleansing tea.


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