Bachelor 28 - Joey Graziadei - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

@agentcurls nice to see you!!!

Remdiamond wrote:Yes I noticed that in the preview. Hopefully we will get to see it.

I shoulda placed a bet uugghhh. I mighta been rich


Kelsey’s date was good .. emotional for sure .. Joey was very attentive and I can see a connection there

And now Daisy gets the hiding treatment

There was more of Joey saying things about his future wife and them showing Daisy again. I'm a Daisy Fan and it's freaking me out that TPTB can't be that obvious, can they? I haven't watched previous bachelor/bachelorette as much as this one so I might be out of the loop.

I'm still not 100% sure that Daisy if the f1 even with the spoiler but acknowledge that it's still a pretty good chance. I just see her getting more of a next lead edit right now but there's still lots of time left. I'm going to be very curious about Kelsey A's edit going forward because we've seen Joey giving her a lot of reassurances so far.

I'm still gathering my thoughts about last night's show...other than the relentless Jess and Lea mess, I really enjoyed it.

However, I just read that "Joey was giving tips to the second gentleman".  Yep, coaching how to give a rose to Kamala Harris, in person.   Unbelievable!  Love it.

@Brill The producers do this with a few different cast members.  It seems to be a "thing" of theirs.  Not sure it means anything except maybe one of the several women they show will be F1.

Hmm, this latest epi (6) Daisy's edit changed from a next possible lead to more of an F1 - she was hardly featured, no PIs, but then her 1:1 group date time, they seemed to have progressed beyond the others, intimacy-wise. She is very attentive to his needs and asks HIM how the process is. She appears to be a steady rock. They do seem like likely companions already. And then their 1:1 time from epi 5 was not featured, but we have the screencap of her black and gold speckled dress looking very cozy indeed.

However, other Daisy thoughts: She has a really big F3 or F2-like SM presence...F1 is usually a little quieter on SM (unless this has shifted in the past few seasons). Also, I find Joey entranced by her, and while I think she is digging him, she seems a bit emotionally flat for him compared to the other girls, but it could just be she is the calm, cool type (TPTB are infamous for editing one-dimensional F1s)! Her confidence with Joey and being on camera is significant.
If I were basing F1 on SM behavior, it would be Kelsey A. Her SM seems like she's in humble mode (which could also mean she may be healing from heartbreak, I suppose).

Interesting observations. I agree that Joey and Daisy seem much further along in intimacy and comfortableness. They are hiding some of their moments. I think her SM behavior reflects her though. She was pretty active before she went in the show and her content is more about her CI and the ladies than Joey per se.

agentcurls wrote:However, other Daisy thoughts: She has a really big F3 or F2-like SM presence...F1 is usually a little quieter on SM (unless this has shifted in the past few seasons). Also, I find Joey entranced by her, and while I think she is digging him, she seems a bit emotionally flat for him compared to the other girls, but it could just be she is the calm, cool type (TPTB are infamous for editing one-dimensional F1s)! Her confidence with Joey and being on camera is significant.
If I were basing F1 on SM behavior, it would be Kelsey A. Her SM seems like she's in humble mode (which could also mean she may be healing from heartbreak, I suppose).

From what I’ve seen on the show so far, I think there’s a strong case for Daisy or Kelsey A as F1. I see chemistry & interest from Joey’s side with both women. He’s also into Rachel & I’m curious what happens with her. What keeps sticking with me in terms of F1 is the supposed safe house weekend where Daisy was actively seen out with friends. Has that been disproven?

@jojo47 I agree about chemistry with Daisy and Kelsey, but I disagree about Rachel. I see that Joey really likes her and feels comfortable in her company...but, definitely a friend vibe.

jojo47 wrote:

agentcurls wrote:However, other Daisy thoughts: She has a really big F3 or F2-like SM presence...F1 is usually a little quieter on SM (unless this has shifted in the past few seasons). Also, I find Joey entranced by her, and while I think she is digging him, she seems a bit emotionally flat for him compared to the other girls, but it could just be she is the calm, cool type (TPTB are infamous for editing one-dimensional F1s)! Her confidence with Joey and being on camera is significant.
If I were basing F1 on SM behavior, it would be Kelsey A. Her SM seems like she's in humble mode (which could also mean she may be healing from heartbreak, I suppose).

From what I’ve seen on the show so far, I think there’s a strong case for Daisy or Kelsey A as F1. I see chemistry & interest from Joey’s side with both women. He’s also into Rachel & I’m curious what happens with her. What keeps sticking with me in terms of F1 is the supposed safe house weekend where Daisy was actively seen out with friends. Has that been disproven?

Thanks for bringing this back up. This gave me pause. Anyone following feet this weekend?