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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

pavalygurl wrote:
Aria wrote:
BlueJeanBaby wrote:

The question from @quietpal was around what sleuthing has been done to in any way hint that Peter might be F1. To my knowledge, the only thing that is somewhat of a loose end in the Bryan sleuthing is #grassgate, wherein people cannot find pictures of the SHV house that show grass similar to that which is in Rachel's July 4th post. The conversation there seems to be tha (with Peter having also posted a picture where the grass looks the same) it's possible that R & P  were together and not R & B.

Not saying this is my POV, or that I even place that into consideration personally, but that's what I was referring to.

The "proof" for Peter to be F1 is so minimal, that I was noting how hard I would laugh if the grass were indeed the proof after all of the findings in the contrary.


I wasn't sure if it was ever posted here or not, but I have looked at the property listing and the grass section where Rachel was lying is part of the property. As per forum rules, I have not included the source or address.


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Aria, I have posted before about grass and I don't mean to belabor the point.  This picture looks like sod or astroturf to me.  Some folks had this laid down because the grass was too bad this summer.  Both photos of Rachel and Peter looked IMO like real grass.  Sometimes pictures vs. seeing it in person are different.  I can only comment that many areas in/around LA don't have what I call "nice" grass this season.  The astroturf, etc. comes in varying degrees of
"quality".   When I look at the photo I see lines where sections of either sod or turf were laid.  Grass in this area doesn't grow in neat sections like that.  All is JMO.

@pavalygurl I agree that the first picture doesn't look like real grass IMO, but the second picture does look like real grass and could be where Rachel was laying in the SM pic IMO
by Al
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:07 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

Aria wrote:
BlueJeanBaby wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:

I have no idea what grassgate has to do with anything. If you can explain that I'd appreciate it. Rachel was lying on grass, what does that have to do with Peter being the F1?


The question from @quietpal was around what sleuthing has been done to in any way hint that Peter might be F1. To my knowledge, the only thing that is somewhat of a loose end in the Bryan sleuthing is #grassgate, wherein people cannot find pictures of the SHV house that show grass similar to that which is in Rachel's July 4th post. The conversation there seems to be tha (with Peter having also posted a picture where the grass looks the same) it's possible that R & P  were together and not R & B.

Not saying this is my POV, or that I even place that into consideration personally, but that's what I was referring to.

The "proof" for Peter to be F1 is so minimal, that I was noting how hard I would laugh if the grass were indeed the proof after all of the findings in the contrary.


I wasn't sure if it was ever posted here or not, but I have looked at the property listing and the grass section where Rachel was lying is part of the property. As per forum rules, I have not included the source or address.


Topics tagged under grassgate on bachandbachettefans.net Img_1611


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Aria, I have posted before about grass and I don't mean to belabor the point. This picture looks like sod or astroturf to me. Some folks had this laid down because the grass was too bad this summer. Both photos of Rachel and Peter looked IMO like real grass. Sometimes pictures vs. seeing it in person are different. I can only comment that many areas in/around LA don't have what I call "nice" grass this season. The astroturf, etc. comes in varying degrees of
"quality". When I look at the photo I see lines where sections of either sod or turf were laid. Grass in this area doesn't grow in neat sections like that. All is JMO.
by pavalygurl
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:39 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

BlueJeanBaby wrote:
coolangel wrote:ITA! :yes: Looks like the grass was found in that SH but even without that, I didn't care much for #grassgate. I mean it's grass, not some exotic plant found only in Madison, Wisconsin. laugh out loud laugh out loud Even if there was no grass in the SH, they could have easily gone outside for a couple of minutes to click pics or maybe there was grass wherever the handlers were staying nearby IMO. There can be tons of explanations for the grass IMO but none for Rachel/Bryan being in the same SH unless you believe in the theory that it is all some elaborate foiler orchestrated by TPTB - Don't know why they would even do that since the only thing it has done is turn off Pachel fans from the show which might impact ratings for the finale. Makes zero sense IMO.

All JMO


Haha, I don't think my initial snark came through. I don't at all think it's a viable clue. I was mainly agreeing that there isn't anything that proves that Peter is F1 from sleuthing. To the point made above, it's grass. It's not a rare Wisconsin flower.


@BlueJeanBaby, Haha! No. I know you were not supporting #grassgate. I got that. Topics tagged under grassgate on bachandbachettefans.net 4256136633 My post was just in general coz #grassgate made zero sense to me esp. the theory about TPTB orchestrating a foiler. IMO That was almost like saying that TPTB don't want ratings for the finale and that is why they are making it look like the less popular guy wins. dizzy dizzy

All JMO
by coolangel
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:10 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

coolangel wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:I still don't see how that is a logical clue that would warrant further sleuthing.

The grass didn't mean much to me because we have an IG of Rachel in the onesie, in the same bathing suit, on a bed, which has been matched to the safe house that Bryan has been matched to be, in the same house. Peter and Rachel both posting pics of grass IMO is not anything that I would take into consideration simply because there is nothing else that ties the two of them together.  Other proven s/caps IG's that have been matched up that proves Peter is not the F1.


ITA! :yes: Looks like the grass was found in that SH but even without that, I didn't care much for #grassgate. I mean it's grass, not some exotic plant found only in Madison, Wisconsin. laugh out loud laugh out loud Even if there was no grass in the SH, they could have easily gone outside for a couple of minutes to click pics or maybe there was grass wherever the handlers were staying nearby IMO. There can be tons of explanations for the grass IMO but none for Rachel/Bryan being in the same SH unless you believe in the theory that it is all some elaborate foiler orchestrated by TPTB - Don't know why they would even do that since the only thing it has done is turn off Pachel fans from the show which might impact ratings for the finale. Makes zero sense IMO.

All JMO


Haha, I don't think my initial snark came through. I don't at all think it's a viable clue. I was mainly agreeing that there isn't anything that proves that Peter is F1 from sleuthing. To the point made above, it's grass. It's not a rare Wisconsin flower.
by BlueJeanBaby
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:56 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

GuardianAngel wrote:I still don't see how that is a logical clue that would warrant further sleuthing.

The grass didn't mean much to me because we have an IG of Rachel in the onesie, in the same bathing suit, on a bed, which has been matched to the safe house that Bryan has been matched to be, in the same house. Peter and Rachel both posting pics of grass IMO is not anything that I would take into consideration simply because there is nothing else that ties the two of them together.  Other proven s/caps IG's that have been matched up that proves Peter is not the F1.


ITA! :yes: Looks like the grass was found in that SH but even without that, I didn't care much for #grassgate. I mean it's grass, not some exotic plant found only in Madison, Wisconsin. laugh out loud laugh out loud Even if there was no grass in the SH, they could have easily gone outside for a couple of minutes to click pics or maybe there was grass wherever the handlers were staying nearby IMO. There can be tons of explanations for the grass IMO but none for Rachel/Bryan being in the same SH unless you believe in the theory that it is all some elaborate foiler orchestrated by TPTB - Don't know why they would even do that since the only thing it has done is turn off Pachel fans from the show which might impact ratings for the finale. Makes zero sense IMO.

All JMO
by coolangel
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:51 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

BlueJeanBaby wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
BlueJeanBaby wrote:laugh out loud @quietpal I honestly want(ed? - unclear) him to win, but I have absolutely no response to your post other than #grassgate. I also MUST be a conspiracy theorist because I still believe it's in the realm of possibility that all of this is a giant ruse (if only because I'd find it hilarious that anyone put THAT much effort into a foiler). All JMO but I would laugh for actual days.


I have no idea what grassgate has to do with anything. If you can explain that I'd appreciate it. Rachel was lying on grass, what does that have to do with Peter being the F1?


The question from @quietpal was around what sleuthing has been done to in any way hint that Peter might be F1. To my knowledge, the only thing that is somewhat of a loose end in the Bryan sleuthing is #grassgate, wherein people cannot find pictures of the SHV house that show grass similar to that which is in Rachel's July 4th post. The conversation there seems to be tha (with Peter having also posted a picture where the grass looks the same) it's possible that R & P  were together and not R & B.

Not saying this is my POV, or that I even place that into consideration personally, but that's what I was referring to.

The "proof" for Peter to be F1 is so minimal, that I was noting how hard I would laugh if the grass were indeed the proof after all of the findings in the contrary.


I still don't see how that is a logical clue that would warrant further sleuthing.

The grass didn't mean much to me because we have an IG of Rachel in the onesie, in the same bathing suit, on a bed, which has been matched to the safe house that Bryan has been matched to be, in the same house. Peter and Rachel both posting pics of grass IMO is not anything that I would take into consideration simply because there is nothing else that ties the two of them together. Other proven s/caps IG's that have been matched up that proves Peter is not the F1.
by GuardianAngel
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:41 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

Aria wrote:
BlueJeanBaby wrote:

The question from @quietpal was around what sleuthing has been done to in any way hint that Peter might be F1. To my knowledge, the only thing that is somewhat of a loose end in the Bryan sleuthing is #grassgate, wherein people cannot find pictures of the SHV house that show grass similar to that which is in Rachel's July 4th post. The conversation there seems to be tha (with Peter having also posted a picture where the grass looks the same) it's possible that R & P  were together and not R & B.

Not saying this is my POV, or that I even place that into consideration personally, but that's what I was referring to.

The "proof" for Peter to be F1 is so minimal, that I was noting how hard I would laugh if the grass were indeed the proof after all of the findings in the contrary.


I wasn't sure if it was ever posted here or not, but I have looked at the property listing and the grass section where Rachel was lying is part of the property. As per forum rules, I have not included the source or address.


Topics tagged under grassgate on bachandbachettefans.net Img_1611


Topics tagged under grassgate on bachandbachettefans.net Img_1612


Ah thanks for bringing that over! I actually hadn't seen these. Closes that book.
by BlueJeanBaby
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:06 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

BlueJeanBaby wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
BlueJeanBaby wrote:laugh out loud @quietpal I honestly want(ed? - unclear) him to win, but I have absolutely no response to your post other than #grassgate. I also MUST be a conspiracy theorist because I still believe it's in the realm of possibility that all of this is a giant ruse (if only because I'd find it hilarious that anyone put THAT much effort into a foiler). All JMO but I would laugh for actual days.


I have no idea what grassgate has to do with anything. If you can explain that I'd appreciate it. Rachel was lying on grass, what does that have to do with Peter being the F1?


The question from @quietpal was around what sleuthing has been done to in any way hint that Peter might be F1. To my knowledge, the only thing that is somewhat of a loose end in the Bryan sleuthing is #grassgate, wherein people cannot find pictures of the SHV house that show grass similar to that which is in Rachel's July 4th post. The conversation there seems to be tha (with Peter having also posted a picture where the grass looks the same) it's possible that R & P  were together and not R & B.

Not saying this is my POV, or that I even place that into consideration personally, but that's what I was referring to.

The "proof" for Peter to be F1 is so minimal, that I was noting how hard I would laugh if the grass were indeed the proof after all of the findings in the contrary.


I wasn't sure if it was ever posted here or not, but I have looked at the property listing and the grass section where Rachel was lying is part of the property. As per forum rules, I have not included the source or address.


Topics tagged under grassgate on bachandbachettefans.net Img_1611


Topics tagged under grassgate on bachandbachettefans.net Img_1612
by Aria
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:00 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

GuardianAngel wrote:
BlueJeanBaby wrote:laugh out loud @quietpal I honestly want(ed? - unclear) him to win, but I have absolutely no response to your post other than #grassgate. I also MUST be a conspiracy theorist because I still believe it's in the realm of possibility that all of this is a giant ruse (if only because I'd find it hilarious that anyone put THAT much effort into a foiler). All JMO but I would laugh for actual days.


I have no idea what grassgate has to do with anything. If you can explain that I'd appreciate it. Rachel was lying on grass, what does that have to do with Peter being the F1?


The question from @quietpal was around what sleuthing has been done to in any way hint that Peter might be F1. To my knowledge, the only thing that is somewhat of a loose end in the Bryan sleuthing is #grassgate, wherein people cannot find pictures of the SHV house that show grass similar to that which is in Rachel's July 4th post. The conversation there seems to be tha (with Peter having also posted a picture where the grass looks the same) it's possible that R & P were together and not R & B.

Not saying this is my POV, or that I even place that into consideration personally, but that's what I was referring to.

The "proof" for Peter to be F1 is so minimal, that I was noting how hard I would laugh if the grass were indeed the proof after all of the findings in the contrary.
by BlueJeanBaby
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:49 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

BlueJeanBaby wrote:laugh out loud @quietpal I honestly want(ed? - unclear) him to win, but I have absolutely no response to your post other than #grassgate. I also MUST be a conspiracy theorist because I still believe it's in the realm of possibility that all of this is a giant ruse (if only because I'd find it hilarious that anyone put THAT much effort into a foiler). All JMO but I would laugh for actual days.


I have no idea what grassgate has to do with anything. If you can explain that I'd appreciate it. Rachel was lying on grass, what does that have to do with Peter being the F1?

FashionLover wrote:I see how people can say P isn't into rachel if you literally ignore everything rachel says about him.
But I do chuckle every time I read some of these posts. If anyone has never watched the show and went off purely on some of this descriptions, they would think peter stands 7 yards away from rachel at all times and runs screaming anytime they come into contact. sheesh.

My honest question for those who feel like peter was not into rachel is, do you then believe Bryan was the only guy who was into her?


There are plenty of s/caps where Peter does not touch her, or gets close to her when he should be. There were a couple where he stood there while she kissed him, without him touching her, balcony/couch. That's why he's nicknamed mannequin, he doesn't move and sticks out his lips for her to kiss him.  This is not a one time deal, this happened over and over right from the cocktail party. For someone who was supposed to be the spoiled F1 all I saw was a model posing for the camera and trying to be chic. IMO Peter is awkward and moves slow, because he's not into Rachel at all.

I give Rachel credit for getting to know each of these guys. I think she liked her top 4 and tried to figure them each out but IMO her attraction and chemistry to one outweighed anything she felt for the others.
by GuardianAngel
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:23 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

laugh out loud @quietpal I honestly want(ed? - unclear) him to win, but I have absolutely no response to your post other than #grassgate. I also MUST be a conspiracy theorist because I still believe it's in the realm of possibility that all of this is a giant ruse (if only because I'd find it hilarious that anyone put THAT much effort into a foiler). All JMO but I would laugh for actual days.
by BlueJeanBaby
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:21 am
 
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