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Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers #4

{@=390}Litta123{/@} I completely agree with everything you said, especially {#}4{/#}! The reason I loved Nick was that he was just a unique character, but he's just become a willing puppet and BS-er, IMO, that I'm not even invested in his happily ever after anymore. I also blame the editing, as we haven't gotten to see his personality, any type of real love story, and have barely gotten to know the women. IMO.

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Media SM Vids - Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers #4

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Emily Maynard - Tyler Johnson & Family - SM - Updates - Fan Forum

@Mustang19 Thanks for posting.

Ricki is so grown up! What a great big sister she is. Such a beautiful family. I'm looking forward to #4!

Ben Higgins - Lauren Bushnell - Bachelor 20 - Discussion - #4

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Mikhel Sickand - Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - Sleuthing Spoilers

already

piecing these pieces together..let alone trying to lay all out

. But here goes the condensed version. Hopefully makes sense !

MIKHEL AS THE F1- HTD AND FD ANALYSIS - Part 1 (ALL JMHOAA)

- A couple of observations:

on HTD: Mike's dad to Jas and Mike : you two seem like good friends. Kevin's dad to Jas and Kev: you two look like a couple. on Mikhel's HTD: Jasmine: I feel like WE are a couple. > the whole word play is very amusing to me!
the riff over Mikhel and Jas's on the sea= the riff used over Sam-Snez on their FD.

-Despite my brief analysis here i have to bring up the HTD again in doing FD analysis..since turned out the suspicious Pis i have picked up on that previous post are coming from FD stage, as i suspected. Will be elaborated more at the end of this post. Just like puzzle, i put the 1-1 matching pieces together. for easier reference, i put the number in the matching pieces. Link to episode 1-9 :: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B3ooUiYCV_bgNUpMRUI2UE5PYmc

Seasons Preview (at the end of Episode 1)
Mikhel got the line: Who wants those same things as me.... wants to be in love and fall in love on 1:04:39 mark (The key edit principal : the VO panning over the contestant refers to the contestant narration by the VO).

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PRV 1. my SC from Season Preview

on Episode 9, Jas was shown talking about Mikhel in this PI on 18:21 mark :

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PI1. We want the same things out of our future that means everything to me and its one of the things what i like about him the most...

#1 > PI 1 + PRV1 = Matched.>I wonder if this also means that Mikhel and Jas have the same wanderlust and adventure aspiration perhaps?

#2 whereas Kevin got the line in the preview : I have made the wrong choices in the past. Part of me is nervous that i could do the same thing. > the same thing referred to wrong choices= Kevin (?)

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PRV 2. my SC from Season Preview

This IMO matched and being emphasized by her mom and sister on Episode 9 at MTP implying that Kevin’s is kinda her usual type. Ive been wondering all season before FD what her type really is... i guess the FD episode gave the answers for me :
ITM1. 49:50 mark, Jade: i think he look like the guy i would expect her to see with
ITM3 50:04 Linda: Kevin seems to be what i think Jasmine tend to gravitate towards. The good looking, charismatic, you know..that type...

> PRV2 + ITM1+ITM2 = Matched. (JMO of course)

#3. VO.1. Jas's VO on Episode 9 . 18:12 mark: Mikhel has like a genuine desire to really make things work no matter what. matched with point no 5 and 6 here

It didn't surprise me a bit that part of her "aim" on the show on episode 9 was narrated by her mom and sister, since it was instilled in the beginning of Jas's journey, during her sitdown with the mom and sis, by both ladies :

#4. ITM 3. Linda On Episode 1.on 3:47 mark (before Jas's limo ride): All i want is for her to find somebody that would care for her with all her faults.
This ITM found more than one matches on Episode 9 , revolving Mikhel:

ITM 4. Jade on Episode 9. On 42:56 mark Mikhel seems like a really nice genuine honest person who seems like he really really really care about Jasmine.
ITM 5. Linda On 45:40 mark : note that this is a VO (meaning: inserted, during/after filming for whatever reasons) : My biggest wish has always been that someone like Mikhel can actually (followed by ITM- what she said on the spot): make Jasmine feel loved and look after her and take care of her the way she should be.

> ITM 3 +ITM 4 +ITM 5 = matched

#5. ITM 6. Jade’s ITM Episode 9, 43: 00 mark : I think Mikhel the kind of guy Jasmine should be with. Being a guy thats looking for long term with Jasmine and will treat her right.
Matched with Jasmine’s description of her final guy ..point no.7 here , based on one of her interview. (INT1)

TBC to part 2

Caila Quinn Burrello & Nick Burrello - Bachelor 20 - Discussion

@TheWrongReasons Ditto! r those the Canada bach guys on ur avi? Pretty good looking guys WR!Have a great night WR!

@yana_bach She did! Her ex boss always leaves messages on her ig pics on how she misses her. So she left on good terms but she's trying to find what makes her happy. May she find it on her new journey! We will see what she does with this new blog. I mean the other was a side project when she was working. She may keep this new one or might be just a phase like the other one. Have a good night Yana!

@GuardianAngel

omg a porn site no way! That's funny!

Guess, time will tell if she keeps this new blog or moves on. Her other one was just fun side project. Caila, seems to be trying out of the box experiences for her. It's like how some r about loving a job or finding love many times in life when you are young or even old...... If you aren't happy you move on try and find it. So many seem to forget one needs to find there own happiness and to never settle. It's kinda how you look at the new bach guy. He's going for #4 or #5 in finding love on TV. May he find what he is looking for on the new season. Have a great night GA!

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Filming Schedule - Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers

Ladybug82 wrote:He was seen leaving the hotel the next morning after Raven's HTD. So he'd have left Arkansas on Nov. 2 not the 3rd. So Nov. 3, could've been a HTD, before the RC on Nov. 4, IMO.

So it'd look something like this, IMO:

10/29 - HTD #1
10/30 - HTD #2 - Rachel (Dallas, Texa) (per RS)
10/31 - Travel
11/1 - HTD #3 - Raven (Hoxie, Arkansas) (per SM and RS)
11/2 - Travel (Seen leaving the hotel around 8:15 AM CT per SM - all info in SM no discussion thread)
11/3 - HTD #4
11/4 - Episode 8 RC (per SM and RS)
11/5 - Travel to Finland (seen at JFK)

But someone correct me if I left something out or got something wrong.

Looks good to me! That is how i have interpreted the schedule as well. I would guess that since they traveled to Finland yesterday, today would be an off day so the first FD would be tomorrow.

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Filming Schedule - Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers

He was seen leaving the hotel the next morning after Raven's HTD. So he'd have left Arkansas on Nov. 2 not the 3rd. So Nov. 3, could've been a HTD, before the RC on Nov. 4, IMO.

So it'd look something like this, IMO:

10/29 - HTD #1 (Seen at the Miami airport that morning per SM)
10/30 - HTD #2 - Rachel (Dallas, Texa) (per RS)
10/31 - Travel
11/1 - HTD #3 - Raven (Hoxie, Arkansas) (per SM and RS)
11/2 - Travel (Seen leaving the hotel around 8:15 AM CT per SM - all info in SM no discussion thread)
11/3 - HTD #4
11/4 - Episode 8 RC (per SM and RS)
11/5 - Travel to Finland (seen at JFK per SM)

But someone correct me if I left something out or got something wrong.

ETA: the only other thought and question I have is... we know Elan and CH were in Miami on Oct. 28. Y'all don't think they could've gone ahead and gone to Tampa or some other location in South FL and filmed a HTD that day do you? If they did then the 29th, could've just been a total travel day for him to get from Miami to Dallas, if RS is right on that. He didn't need all day to get there if he flew out early, but... Just a thought, would be more like the traditional HTD, travel, wash, rings and repeat.

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Filming Schedule - Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers

Ladybug82 wrote:IMO, Nov. 3rd would've been HTD #4, not a travel day. And depending on how far it was and what flights were available to NY, they could've headed out late that night after the HTD or the next morning to get to the RC. They had all day to get to NY because the RC wasn't until that night. JMO

ETA: coolangel posted the pic at 8:51 pm (I'm EST) and the pic was posted 18 minutes before that. So, plenty of time to travel and still get ready for the RC that day, IMO.

Great point! So I live in Aus and not sure about the time zones and travel distances in the us...can someone enlighten me ...out of which grls would that schedule u mentioned work for? I assume they would have to live close to NY right??? TYIA

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Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Filming Schedule - Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers

IMO, Nov. 3rd would've been HTD #4, not a travel day. And depending on how far it was and what flights were available to NY, they could've headed out late that night after the HTD or the next morning to get to the RC. They had all day to get to NY because the RC wasn't until that night. JMO

ETA: coolangel posted the pic at 8:51 pm (I'm EST) and the pic was posted 18 minutes before that. So, plenty of time to travel and still get ready for the RC that day, IMO.

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Filming Schedule - Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers

bblake wrote:This is just a guess, but with the RC allegedly being tomorrow could the schedule be something like this?

10/27 - Episode 7 RC
10/28 - Travel
10/29 - HTD #1 (Possibly Florida since he was spotted there, or maybe somewhere in Texas so there was no need for an extra day between this HTD and Rachel's?)
10/30 - HTD #2 - Rachel (Dallas, Texas)
10/31 - Travel
11/1 - HTD #3 - Raven (Hoxie, Arkansas)
11/2 - Travel
11/3 - HTD #4 (California? Nick allegedly spotted in Malibu)
11/4 - Episode 8 RC
11/5 - Travel to Finland

This is the only option that makes sense to me because the "mystery" hometown being on 10/31 or 11/2 means that Nick had 3 days in a row of hometowns (likely in 3 different states). That's exhausting.

The only other "unknown" Apparently Elan is in NY. Knowing that it would be easier to fly out of an eastern airport than a western, think we need to make allowances for that and the one that I posted in the other thread might be a likelier candidate.

Aunties_Love wrote:We have a tweet about someone seeing Nick in Malibu yesterday at around 8:14am....so assuming one would be in Cali.

Kathrine Kuhlmann
‏@kathrinestwitta
drove next to the Bachelor, Nick, today and he laughed at me while I was dancing in my car #justMalibuthings
8:14 AM - 2 Nov 2016

https://twitter.com/kathrinestwitta/status/793833770692390912

10/27: Episode 7 RC
10/28: travel from Bimini to Miami

Episode 8 - HTD's - F4 - Rachel(RS), Raven(RS),
10/29 - HTD1 - Florida? - North Carolina?? airport IG
10/30 - HTD2 - RACHEL - Dallas, TX
10/31 - travel
11/1 - HTD3 - RAVEN - Hoxie, Arkansas
11/2 - seen in Malibu per tweet above - mistake?
11/3 - HTD4: ?? maybe Cali one?
11/4 - travel
11/4 - RC(perRS)

I would think this is an extremely tight schedule to fit all four in, but maybe making up for time????

ETA:

edited to change and update info

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Filming Schedule - Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers

This is just a guess, but with the RC allegedly being tomorrow could the schedule be something like this?

10/27 - Episode 7 RC
10/28 - Travel
10/29 - HTD {#}1{/#} (Possibly Florida since he was spotted there, or maybe somewhere in Texas so there was no need for an extra day between this HTD and Rachel's?)
10/30 - HTD {#}2{/#} - Rachel (Dallas, Texas)
10/31 - Travel
11/1 - HTD {#}3{/#} - Raven (Hoxie, Arkansas)
11/2 - Travel
11/3 - HTD {#}4{/#} (California? Nick allegedly spotted in Malibu)
11/4 - Episode 8 RC
11/5 - Travel to Finland

This is the only option that makes sense to me because the "mystery" hometown being on 10/31 or 11/2 means that Nick had 3 days in a row of hometowns (likely in 3 different states). That's exhausting.