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The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - ATFR - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

I guess... I don't even care anymore about what Ben felt or didn't feel for JoJo vs. Lauren. At the end of the day, JoJo and Ben went on a handful of dates over an 8 week period in the bubble. Ben has 4 months exclusively with Lauren IRL over all that now. You can already see Ben and Lauren blending their lives together. Everything I have seen of them indicates they are very serious about each other and its obvious how happy he and Lauren are. JoJo is currently writing her own story. And at the end of the day, she's going to be remembered for whatever happens during her season and with her guy. Her brief entanglement with Ben and Lauren will mostly be a footnote and forgotten, I'm sure. And meanwhile, I really believe Ben and Lauren stand a good chance to become successful marriage #6 from this franchise. And JoJo will join the elite club that includes Ali, Jillian, Trista, etc. with the hope of finding someone really special for herself. No matter the end result of Jo's season, I think she will thrive as The Bachelorette. This role seems much better for her than being Ben's F1, and I bet she thinks so too.

Bachelor France Season 3 - Gian Marco - Episode Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers

well well well...

after Shirley's interview it is 100% sure that she is NOT {#}1{/#}!!! LOL

Bachelor : Shirley balance sur les problèmes de transpiration de Marco

Looks like a very low blow IMO so my gut feelings were right about her. Only a mean girl or a hurt girl could do an interview like that so I am thinking she went far (segment says she had a 1on1 with kiss, maybe different places, different time). He was never interested with Shirley or he would not have acted like a jerk at the club in front of Naelle and her (with Laurie making up on the dance floor). So I am thinking Marco led her very far up to hometown, she had a big crush and got dumped.

Diane {#}1{/#}
Linda {#}2{/#} (although I am thinking more and more {#}1{/#} but he is so in awe with Diane's physical and he is blindsided making up something that is not there IMO. But who knows, Linda may be the hidden F1 with the storyline: will she become more than friendship?)
Shirley {#}3{/#}
Naelle {#}4{/#}
Laurie {#}5{/#}
Louise {#}6{/#}
Clemence {#}7{/#}
Melanie {#}8{/#}
Masha {#}9{/#}
Charlene {#}10{/#}
Julie {#}11{/#}
Marie-Charlotte {#}12{/#}

Bachelor France Season 3 - Gian Marco - Episode Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers

Very interesting episode {#}3{/#}

all the girls go on a trip except Diane, Louise, Naelle and Linda ... the favorites in my opinion.

The only 2 girls who stood out during this group date were Laurie and Shirley.

I laughed a lot during this one. Especially the spectral opposite views Marie-Charlotte and Marco got from their time with the ducks. It was hilarious.

Laurie confirmed she is an easy girl, who just want to have a good time, have sex and fun. No class act. The segment when she is tap dancing in the club.

Shirley (belgium hairdresser). 10 min were just not enough time for Marco to know her. So I have no doubt she'll get a 101 date next week.

Louise as I thought is definitely not {#}1{/#}. Her constant mentions about being homey and cooking.... which is in total contradiction of what Marco said in his intro (I never stay home, always on the go). I even think that she is no longer {#}2{/#} in my book. If he thinks Marie-Charlotte is boring, then Louise is definitely too in his eyes. The fact that he did not take her aside as the other 3 is speaking volume IMO. I did not like much Louise in this episode. So the long conversation on the boat meant nothing except for Marco to confirm that yes she is very pretty and the type he usually goes with physically but she is definitely not the adventurous fun woman he wants.

I did not believe one bit of Naelle's present which was production intensive to stir jealousy and get extra drama and extra material for the show. Naelle is definitely not the natural girl he mentions all the time (during and after show)

Linda is definitely more funny and witty. I do not think she is very classy but she is honest and I am sure smart. I still think she is in top 4 but not {#}2{/#}

I think Shirley has a lot of chances to be. She intrigues him. She is smart enough to look sweet. He is definitely into sweet innocent lovely girls (Diane). Shelley plays on my nerves. Her smile is always false. She also does not fit the natural description he so praise.

But again, in my eyes, Diane is the one. I am not sure to understand why but she is. Huge chemistry between them. It is like they want to jump their bones and kiss. He is always asking her how she feels, always feel better when she confirms she missed him. He acts like a man in love who just need reinsurance. On top of that, the intro I saw is him and Diane on the elephant. Plus what he told her on top of the monument (if we start kissing, I will not stop).

It was funny that they showed us the segment with his friends when Diane said she is extremely jealous... which is something Marco dislikes (like all guys) and how he gave the cold shower to Naelle when she showed this side on the boat. It looks like for Marco, it is okay to be jealous with Diane because this re-insures him that she reciprocates his feelings but not okay with the others.

I think his friends liked Linda.

What I learned is that Marco gravitates to the same kind of woman: sweet, nice, lovely, calm. However the real Marco was the one we saw dancing with Laurie.

What is interesting is trying to figure out the script. When we hear "acceptes tu cette rose?" and the answer is "no", we had previously a zoom of all the girls lined. Then at the question, we have a zoom on melanie and the next 2 girls on her left excluding Diane, then another zoom on the other side of the line and we see clearly few girls... but no shelley and no Diane... but right after the no, we see diane going back to her place to far to see if she has a rose.

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Logically the one refusing the rose is Marie-Charlotte. Her body language (she is the one with the huge dress blowing) with her hands on her back, shoulders contracted, says she has something to say. Considering she is looking for a true gentleman and she has big principles, I am pretty sure it did not bode well when Naelle and the other girls explained his slutty attitude at the club. I think she did right between you and me. Family will watch this show and how to explain his attitude and justify it? impossible.

Could be also Julie or Masha but I think marie-charlotte will take it really bad since she had this date with him and it would be a public humiliation and a total lack of class for her. Plus the close up and body language looks like it is marie-charlotte.

So my take now is:

Diane {#}1{/#} - high maintenance, too childish. definitely not fond of this femme-enfant. So unless she shows a more mature side, I do not see it lasting
Shirley {#}2{/#} - I really do not like her smiling and her in general, she irks me
Linda {#}3{/#} - the only one I truly like in the show. I like her humor and character and find her pretty. Not gorgeous but natural pretty.
Naelle {#}4{/#} still good show at hometown with the kid; nice girl, wrong guy.
Laurie {#}5{/#} - he likes her sexual and no string attached. she is definitely the villain of the season
Louise {#}6{/#} - because of producers, must legitimate and balance Laurie/melanie, the good girl vs bad girls. She is a homey girl who hardly go out.. totally not Marco.
Clemence {#}7{/#} - still intrigued so it is possible she stays up to that moment. strong personality and I think this is the reason why she remains. Pride to "break" her.
Melanie {#}8{/#} - crude, makes good show with laurie.
Masha {#}9{/#} - impressed only because she jump in this nasty water. Made a comment about her being from Monaco and all that (the way I understood was: kind of snob)
Charlene {#}10{/#} - he was never interested in her
Julie {#}11{/#} - who is she?
Marie-Charlotte {#}12{/#} - wayyyyyyyyyyyy too aristocrat for him and total opposite personalities.

so who in this list fits the "no make up natural no Botox or breast surgery, simple girl, no gold digger, easy going? Linda and Diane.

Sharleen Joynt & Andy Levine - Bachelor 18 - Discussion

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sharleenjoynt Getting ready for show #6 out of 8! It's a bit weird how many of the roles I've sung have been maids. And sadly, over the years, I've missed too many friends' weddings because I've been in a different country singing. Therefore, instead of #alwaysabridesmaid, I'd say #alwaysamaid applies.

The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Potential Contestants - Sleuthing - Spoilers #2

Unless the #6 has the same boots as Jen, I think that's her.

The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Filming Schedule - NO Discussion - Sleuthing - Spoilers

GuardianAngel wrote:With bits of info that I've been given, I'm thinking the filming schedule is pretty close to this one, if not exactly the same as far as the starting date. Thanks to AL for putting CS's schedule together for us.

Aunties_Love wrote:Here's a filming schedule as I have it figured out right now.

Epi 1 25 to 18
9/25 Meet/Greet

Epi 2 18 to 16
9/27 ID1
9/28 Group Date: Tractor Race(Tweets)
9/29 ID2
9/30 RC 2

Epi 3 16 to 14
10/1 ID
10/2 GD Costco in Van Nuys
10/3 ID Malibu filming Tweet
10/4 RC 3

Epi 4 14 to 12
10/5 ID
10/6 GD at Lake Piru
10/7 ID
10/8 RC #4

10/9 travel to New Mexico

Epi 5 12 to 9
10/10 ID
10/11 GD - Albuquerque balloon races
10/12 ID
10/13 RC #5

10/14 travel to South Dakota

Epi 6 9 to 6
10/15 off
10/16 ID
10/17 ID
10/19 GD 6 women at Stocks Corral then 1 to concert date Big & Rich (Brit had the concert)
10/20 RC #6
an individual date happened at the Black Hills, just don't know what day yet

10/21-22 travel to Iowa
10/23 Filming "B" roll of Iowa

Epi 7 6 to 4 Chris in Des Moines on 10/23 filmed doing "b" film and walkabouts
10/24 ID filming at football game - Jade
10/25 ID filming at street in Des Moines at River Walk, Roca restaurant, Tonic Bar with Whitney
10/26 ID filming at pedestrian bridge over river.....asian building background. West End Architectural Salvage - a long haired blond
10/27 GD Continental, Kitchen Collage, and also at the lofts where Chris was staying GDR handed out
10/28 RC #7

Epi 8 HTD
10/29 Travel to Louissiana
10/30 HTD1 Becca in Shreveport, Louisiana Becca's Birthday
10/31 travel
11/1 HTD2 Kaitlyn Bristowe in Arizona
11/2 travel
11/3 HTD3 Jade in Gering, Nebraska
11/4 travel
11/5 HTD4 Whitney in Chicago
11/6 HTD RC Chris's birthday.......HTD Rc in Iowa....according to a tweet
Jade eliminated as per social media activity

Epi 9 FD
11/7 - 9 Travel days to Bali pics posted on IG resort found to be the Plataran Hotels and Resort in Canggu Bali by julychild
11/10 FD1
11/11 day off
11/12 FD2
11/13 day off
11/14 FD3
11/15 RC
RS says that Kaitlyn is eliminated

Epi 10 LCD/MTP
11/16-17 travelling
11/18 mtp1
11/19 mtp2
11/20 LCD1 Whitney
11/21 LCD2 Strawberry Point Becca
11/22-23 FRC

According to Reality Steve, the 25 girls picked for the upcoming season will be heading to Los Angeles September 20 and 21 in preparation for their first meet and greet with Ben. The girls are scheduled to arrive at the Bachelor mansion on September 24 to start filming a season that is sure to be filled with drama, broken hearts, helicopter rides, and hopefully, a love story.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2412425/the-bachelor-ben-higgins-gets-fit-prepares-to-meet-25-ladies-on-first-day-of-filming/#wgepEChmj2YD86HR.99
RS:

“Bachelor” filming starts Thursday night, Sept. 24th, with most of the girls arriving on the 21st to get situated in the hotel, shoot some ITM’s, and do their high school yearbook head shots for their bios. I think a few are gonna arrive Sunday the 20th, but everyone will be there by the 21st, and the limo entrances will be on the 24th. As we know now, a lot of dates early in the season in LA are spoiled on social media, so that will be happening once filming begins.RS

The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Filming Schedule - Sleuthing - Spoilers

With bits of info that I've been given, I'm thinking the filming schedule is pretty close to this one, if not exactly the same as far as the starting date. Thanks to AL for putting CS's schedule together for us.

Aunties_Love wrote:Here's a filming schedule as I have it figured out right now.

Epi 1 25 to 18
9/25 Meet/Greet

Epi 2 18 to 16
9/27 ID1
9/28 Group Date: Tractor Race(Tweets)
9/29 ID2
9/30 RC 2

Epi 3 16 to 14
10/1 ID
10/2 GD Costco in Van Nuys
10/3 ID Malibu filming Tweet
10/4 RC 3

Epi 4 14 to 12
10/5 ID
10/6 GD at Lake Piru
10/7 ID
10/8 RC #4

10/9 travel to New Mexico

Epi 5 12 to 9
10/10 ID
10/11 GD - Albuquerque balloon races
10/12 ID
10/13 RC #5

10/14 travel to South Dakota

Epi 6 9 to 6
10/15 off
10/16 ID
10/17 ID
10/19 GD 6 women at Stocks Corral then 1 to concert date Big & Rich (Brit had the concert)
10/20 RC #6
an individual date happened at the Black Hills, just don't know what day yet

10/21-22 travel to Iowa
10/23 Filming "B" roll of Iowa

Epi 7 6 to 4 Chris in Des Moines on 10/23 filmed doing "b" film and walkabouts
10/24 ID filming at football game - Jade
10/25 ID filming at street in Des Moines at River Walk, Roca restaurant, Tonic Bar with Whitney
10/26 ID filming at pedestrian bridge over river.....asian building background. West End Architectural Salvage - a long haired blond
10/27 GD Continental, Kitchen Collage, and also at the lofts where Chris was staying GDR handed out
10/28 RC #7

Epi 8 HTD
10/29 Travel to Louissiana
10/30 HTD1 Becca in Shreveport, Louisiana Becca's Birthday
10/31 travel
11/1 HTD2 Kaitlyn Bristowe in Arizona
11/2 travel
11/3 HTD3 Jade in Gering, Nebraska
11/4 travel
11/5 HTD4 Whitney in Chicago
11/6 HTD RC Chris's birthday.......HTD Rc in Iowa....according to a tweet
Jade eliminated as per social media activity

Epi 9 FD
11/7 - 9 Travel days to Bali pics posted on IG resort found to be the Plataran Hotels and Resort in Canggu Bali by julychild
11/10 FD1
11/11 day off
11/12 FD2
11/13 day off
11/14 FD3
11/15 RC
RS says that Kaitlyn is eliminated

Epi 10 LCD/MTP
11/16-17 travelling
11/18 mtp1
11/19 mtp2
11/20 LCD1 Whitney
11/21 LCD2 Strawberry Point Becca
11/22-23 FRC

Kaitlyn Bristowe - Shawn Booth - Fan Forum - General Discussion

iamreal2u wrote:Actually #6 is hilarious. What happened there?

That body language is off the chart.

Kaitlyn Bristowe - Shawn Booth - Fan Forum - General Discussion

Actually #6 is hilarious. What happened there?

Kaitlyn Bristowe - Shawn Booth - Fan Forum - General Discussion

If you don't mind, I am going to post a few of my fave from that list minus the picture, don't know how to.

#2. He was there for Kaitlyn from day one, so he’s clearly committed to her.
Unlike Nick, who just showed up out of freaking nowhere.

#5. Kaitlyn already told Shawn she thinks he’s “THE ONE” so she might as well hand the final rose over already.
So what if it happened off camera?! It still counts.

#6. Shawn’s family absolutely loved meeting Kaitlyn and treated her like she was already a part of the family.
Nick’s family was far more hesitant at first. (I wish I can bring this picture, the body language is off the chart)

#7. When Kaitlyn and Shawn kissed by the fireside it was like rainbows and butterflies. There’s never been a truer embrace on the show.
SO MUCH PASSION.(this picture is worth a 1,000 words)

#12. He’s not afraid to be spontaneous, daring, and NAKED.
THIS IS HUSBAND MATERIAL.

#19. He gives the best hugs with his giant, muscular arms. Kaitlyn should definitely hold on ‘til death do them part.
Good luck beating that hug, Nick.

Come on Kabooteam, let's make it alive here, it is brutal in the general forum.

The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - #8 - Media - Tweets - IG - Sleuthing - Spoilers - Discussion

Brought over from #6 thread:

Alanna
I don't know what's really going on in Shawn and Kait's relationship but she snapped a lot of her trip this morning and she appears to be her normal, happy Kait. So I think that at least so far this morning, no angry breakup texts yet since she cried when there was any conflict with them at all before she even chose him. I'd imagine she'd be really upset if things were on the verge of disaster bad now that he's her fiancé.

I am glad to hear that K seems happy. I was hoping that she would be strong and hopefully this is the worst of it and opinions improve about her. Hope she is getting all support she needs from friends, family
and her F1.

The Bachelorette 11 - Screen Caps - Sleuthing - Spoilers

Since this is SC thread, I'll try to run an idea, talking about the episode description of #6 (respective thread) ... where there's a talk about the "meltdown guy who confronts Kaitlyn" ... it is believed to be Shawn from the preview ... my question:
- we still don't know what kind of date Shawn gets the week after Dublin ... it is assumed that he is on a group date with Joe, possibly Jared - I know Ben H. is also a possibility, but I've written before, IMO Ben H. gets his second 1on1 so that he goes further to over-night date week.
I asked once, what would that mean, if Shawn a week before "FSD" doesn't get his second 1:1, but Nick gets it, practically 2nd week in a row ...
Now, we know Shawn has some sort of "meltdown" in Dublin, he wants an explanation from Kaitlyn and he goes to talk to her in her room ... Why wouldn't Kaitlyn take him on 1on1 the week after, if he was "on a verge to leave" ? ... Why would she make him go on another "group date"? - making him the only guy of F3 who didn't get 1on1 twice.
Is it because she gave him some reassurance - bigger than a date?