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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - Sleuthing Spoilers Discussion - #14

Been away for most of the day and only catching up. While I see what some are saying regarding her comments about Peter, I do think it's a little unfair for people to say, "focus on her fiance, why is she still so focused on this, etc."

The finale was literally less than a day ago. And it was a finale that was essentially dominated by the Peter story and the end to the Peter/Rachel saga. #TeamPeter was actually at one point trending in second place on twitter. She's not going to get around being asked about Peter. I'm sure Rachel would love to only be asked about her and Bryan's relationship but it's not going to happen.

And so she's decided to be frank and honest about her feelings regarding the Peter situation. Now I will say that I don't think Rachel is harboring some torch for Peter and that's why she seems so bothered and irritated in her responses about him. I think that contrary to all her, "I don't know you so I don't care what you have to say" regarding social media comments, she's making the social media hate get to her.

And I think she's so frustrated because she knows how crappy this guy was to her and how in some ways things were so messy and then to see him still come out of this as being the victim and loved, it's pissing her off and making her a lot more brutal in her responses. And I know that feeling. When I know I'm right and people won't see or understand my part, it's the most aggravating thing.

Coupled with the fact that she's had to spend months of this Peter is the greatest man alive and Bryan is the most awful narrative online and now, when they finally had their big happy moment, again, based on the edit, it was still dominated by Peter. And I don't know why some would be surprised or think this somehow proves she's still so stuck on Peter. Rachel showed how not chill she was in response to social media backlash/criticism, earlier this season.

But back then some thought it was funny and awesome and "Queen" and she's all about keeping it 100 and keeping it real. Well there you go. Did some really think she would just completely take the high road now when she clapped back so much on someone for simply saying the season was boring them?

Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - Sleuthing Spoilers Discussion - #14

I'm playing catch up, how dare real life get in the way of reading posts and watching all the interviews this morning.

I can see both sides of this on going debate about Rachel. I didn't like her and the squads attitude and shade last season and don't really now. I mean I understand why Big Rach made an appearance after all Peter's shade and SM game all season. But really why is anyone surprised its still being mentioned. She's being asked repeatedly about it. She's not going to sugar coat it or avoid it, IMO. Basically now she can finally say what she's wanted to say but had to hold in and it had building up all season from the edit and his own actions. I get it and why she feels the need to vent now, but that doesn't mean it should all be said or maybe in the way its said, IMO.

All she's doing is building up more sympathy for him and that IMO isn't going to help her at all. It's only going to further encourage him and his attitude and actions. But IMO, he better think long and hard before accepting the Bach gig. He's no special snowflake, so everything that people like about him this season will be used against him next season. Personally, even snarking my way threw it doesn't sound the least bit enjoyable. I'm ready to move on from anything to do with Peter, Bryan or Rachel. Clean slate... maybe one of the guys we no nothing about and were shocked where still there.

. And as much as I don't want another season of Ben, IMO, it'd be more enjoyable that a season of Peter. I do think it'll be interesting to see just how many are still #teamPeter first, foremost and always after he doesn't pick the fan fav. Just like with Rachel this season, I have a feeling many all over SM will turn on him. It'll be brutal and for someone that struggles with SM's perception of him, IMO, it'll be a very bumpy ride.

IMO, she and B need to go off and live life, not worrying about how and what people think. A life well lived is the best revenge and way to show the world she made the best choice for herself, no matter how long it lasts. And IMO, Peter just needs to stick to building his company and avoid dealing with Bach nation again.

JMO

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - FAN Forum - Discussion

themindof_vee wrote:@Rolly Rachel is doing too much with her interview, we know what we saw, heard what you said (no matter how chopped and screwed) and felt what you felt. If Peter didn't mean that much to you and you knew since Geneva why was being in the Alps your fav place, why did you let Dean go who the follow week said he loved you.

She is going to shoot herself in the foot with all this back peddling. We know you're hurt (alot of us are too) but she needs to stop trying to feed us lies to save face with her man. It is what it is.

Peter I dont know if I want him to be the bachelor, he's too good for it, (and I lowkey still want him and rachel together). He should just focus on his business for a little bit and maybe visit a beach.

What's best for me is to see him as the bachelor even if a beach is what may be best for him. This revisionist history with Rachel is very irritating and I'm not liking her very much. I think Peter may have dodged a bullet.... maybe I'm just angry with how's she acting with ATFR and today. I hope she lets go of it and can just be happy.

Still #TeamPeter

Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 10 FRC - Aug 7 - Sleuthing Spoilers #2

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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 9 - July 24 - Sleuthing Spoilers

Rachel's family is #TeamPeter. I can see why Rachel and Bryan might be moving to LA.

All JMO

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - FAN Forum - Discussion

bleuberry wrote:
Peter's friend posted:

k.j.boone
I mean if you end up wanting to make this your hometown, we wouldn't hate it... #justsayin #oldfashionedsontap #thebachelorette #teampeter #sincedayone

Adorable picture. Rachel would fit right in! He has very nice friends.

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - FAN Forum - Discussion

Peter's friend posted:

k.j.boone
I mean if you end up wanting to make this your hometown, we wouldn't hate it... #justsayin #oldfashionedsontap #thebachelorette #teampeter #sincedayone

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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

FashionLover wrote:
BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/

Isn't it interesting though that Bryan was never tagged or hashtagged on that post? just a thought

Wasn't that post in direct response to Petey's whinny post begging folks to stop being mean to him?

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/

My thing is, if he wasn't into Rachel, why not leave and let Dean and some of the others stay because they were into her. Don't come on to play with her because of ulterior motives. A little selfish.

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

Buckeye_Fan wrote:
FashionLover wrote:
BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/

Isn't it interesting though that Bryan was never tagged or hashtagged on that post? just a thought

It was interesting to me too! Alex is right - we only see what the producers want us to see. If they want to show us every single time Peter was petty, but never show any of Bryan's faults, then Bryan looks like a saint and there is no Saint Peter. Not quite sure why they want to make Peter look bad, unless they have somebody else in mind for the next lead. If so, please let it be Alex!!!!

Per the bolded:
I think Petey pissed production off someway somehow or someone just didn't like him.

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

Buckeye_Fan wrote:
FashionLover wrote:
BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/

Isn't it interesting though that Bryan was never tagged or hashtagged on that post? just a thought

It was interesting to me too! Alex is right - we only see what the producers want us to see. If they want to show us every single time Peter was petty, but never show any of Bryan's faults, then Bryan looks like a saint and there is no Saint Peter. Not quite sure why they want to make Peter look bad, unless they have somebody else in mind for the next lead. If so, please let it be Alex!!!!

Or Peter didn't like Bryan and was petty towards him while Bryan didn't care about Peter and wasn't petty towards him, so they don't have Bryan footage to show in that vein. It's always interesting debating hypotheticals because you can certainly make it work for whatever side of the debate you're on.

Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - Sleuthing Spoilers - #8

FashionLover wrote:
BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/

Isn't it interesting though that Bryan was never tagged or hashtagged on that post? just a thought

It was interesting to me too! Alex is right - we only see what the producers want us to see. If they want to show us every single time Peter was petty, but never show any of Bryan's faults, then Bryan looks like a saint and there is no Saint Peter. Not quite sure why they want to make Peter look bad, unless they have somebody else in mind for the next lead. If so, please let it be Alex!!!!