Andi Dorfman- Bachelor 18 Contestant- Spoilers/Discussion

Mirzam wrote:

Andi Dorfman ‏@AndiDorfman  15m
Just FYI I never meant to disrespect by saying "eees ok" it was always a joke with us, just like it was when I said "y'all" #simmerdown

MVMom39forever wrote:^^^
I totally agree about catty Twitter remarks! But, I also have to believe this is TPTB prodding to keep her in public eye. JuanPa has been a very controversial Bachelor and there seem to be more folks who are anti than pro. She's just jumping on bandwagon at his expense (and to heck with respecting his relationship with F1 Nikki, but then again Nikki and Juan Pa must both know the ropes ...).

I actually still like Juan Pa just fine and a lot more than several other former Bachelors. There is always a period when TPTB do everything possible to exploit lead's performance and callout Achilles Heel to fuel some controversy and create social media/water cooler moments that boost ratings. They could care less if we actually like the lead ... they just want ratings! I still cringe when I recall those scenes with Brad W and his television therapist. Why did he consent to that???

And, while I thoroughly enjoyed Des season ... because I was team Chris all the way ... so many complained that she was boring just as folks complained Emily was boring . Well, our little fire cracker Andi sure is proving to not be BORING and that's exactly what TPTB want! She also might be ABC's response to fan complaints of the lack of any substantive conversations among lead and contestants.

Can't wait to see her banter with the boys. Every lawyer needs to have a little actress in them in order to convince juries and most that I know (and I know a LOT) LOVE to talk so should be fun season.

atem wrote:

Mirzam wrote:

Andi Dorfman ‏@AndiDorfman  15m
Just FYI I never meant to disrespect by saying "eees ok" it was always a joke with us, just like it was when I said "y'all" #simmerdown

Yeah, right. LOL  

bleuberry wrote:

atem wrote:

Mirzam wrote:

Andi Dorfman ‏@AndiDorfman  15m
Just FYI I never meant to disrespect by saying "eees ok" it was always a joke with us, just like it was when I said "y'all" #simmerdown

Yeah, right. LOL  

Ha. She doesn't get it. Mocking his usage of "it's okay" is what nearly everyone was doing, but mocking the way he says it is something else. Andi's season is gonna be a good one, I can just tell!   

eirekay wrote:Bash Andi all you want. And evidently a lot of you want to.  I still feel some amount of sympathy for her.  i think there are two things at play here: 1) Many women, and some men, think they can have casual sex and be okay with it.  At the point where JP mentioned the FS date with Clare, followed by the fact that he nearly left Andi in Miami, she realized that she had just had casual sex with someone she wouldn't ever date again.  At that point she felt used.  Not a good feeling for anyone.  2) I just heard the Athletic Director of major university talk about connection. His point was even if you don't get what you want, if you feel you connected with the other person, you'll still attribute positive feelings towards them.  Conversely, if you don't connect with someone, regardless of the outcome, you'll have negative feelings towards them.  I think this is what happened to Andi and JP.

bleuberry wrote:

eirekay wrote:Bash Andi all you want. And evidently a lot of you want to.  I still feel some amount of sympathy for her.  i think there are two things at play here: 1) Many women, and some men, think they can have casual sex and be okay with it.  At the point where JP mentioned the FS date with Clare, followed by the fact that he nearly left Andi in Miami, she realized that she had just had casual sex with someone she wouldn't ever date again.  At that point she felt used.  Not a good feeling for anyone.  2) I just heard the Athletic Director of major university talk about connection. His point was even if you don't get what you want, if you feel you connected with the other person, you'll still attribute positive feelings towards them.  Conversely, if you don't connect with someone, regardless of the outcome, you'll have negative feelings towards them.  I think this is what happened to Andi and JP.

Oh for sure, I would have negative feelings too - at myself. She was presumably a willing participant, and voluntarily went to the FS with him, so...

notarose wrote:I guess Andi is just "suite-shaming" JP. I didn't like what you did but I didn't tell you at the time because...... but after sleeping on it I realize it was nightmare. Lots of similarities between suitegate & oceangate.

bleuberry wrote:

eirekay wrote:Bash Andi all you want. And evidently a lot of you want to.  I still feel some amount of sympathy for her.  i think there are two things at play here: 1) Many women, and some men, think they can have casual sex and be okay with it.  At the point where JP mentioned the FS date with Clare, followed by the fact that he nearly left Andi in Miami, she realized that she had just had casual sex with someone she wouldn't ever date again.  At that point she felt used.  Not a good feeling for anyone.  2) I just heard the Athletic Director of major university talk about connection. His point was even if you don't get what you want, if you feel you connected with the other person, you'll still attribute positive feelings towards them.  Conversely, if you don't connect with someone, regardless of the outcome, you'll have negative feelings towards them.  I think this is what happened to Andi and JP.

Oh for sure, I would have negative feelings too - at myself. She was presumably a willing participant, and voluntarily went to the FS with him, so...

George1218 wrote:I seriously, seriously do not believe that they had sex. I don't believe JP had sex with any of the final 3!

eirekay wrote:Bash Andi all you want. And evidently a lot of you want to.  I still feel some amount of sympathy for her.  i think there are two things at play here: 1) Many women, and some men, think they can have casual sex and be okay with it.  At the point where JP mentioned the FS date with Clare, followed by the fact that he nearly left Andi in Miami, she realized that she had just had casual sex with someone she wouldn't ever date again.  At that point she felt used.  Not a good feeling for anyone.  2) I just heard the Athletic Director of major university talk about connection. His point was even if you don't get what you want, if you feel you connected with the other person, you'll still attribute positive feelings towards them.  Conversely, if you don't connect with someone, regardless of the outcome, you'll have negative feelings towards them.  I think this is what happened to Andi and JP.

atem wrote:I'm not understanding what you are saying. Why would she sleep with someone her good friend is also sleeping with? Also, since when do only 'some' men vs 'many' women think having casual sex is ok with it? Seems most men would be 'ok' with it as well. no idea