Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Plane Vid - Discussion - *Spoilers*

Kashathediva wrote:I will play the devil's advocate.   
I really don't care how other's perceive me.   
If I go out of the house without makeup and my hair's a mess, so be it. I know others would never do this. If I run into someone I know, looking like a hot mess, I may think twice about doing it next time, but then the next time comes around and 75/25 I will go out a hot mess again! I really don't care.    I am quite comfortable in my own skin. 

There are 2 schools of thought on this video.
The first being someone caught Nick with his pants down--a private convo that he was not so circumspect with and video taped the convo.
The second being a spoof. 
I can see it being either. 
I would absolutely go along with it if it were a spoof and fill my mouth with food, talk loudly. If it were me, I would probably play it up more, unfortunately and give it away that it was a spoof. (think Melissa McCarthy)

Honestly, I don't think he is so worried about how this effects his image. He didn't kill anyone. He didn't steal. No physical violence was involved. I didn't hear any real offensive language. I don't think his livelihood is in jeopardy. 
I don't think this show is all that popular that he is going to have to go into hiding and assume a new identity. JMOAA

rosesrREd wrote:

luvlady345 wrote:Someone posted that things are being dismissed for the other guys in the F4 what are the clues that are being dismissed for them? LOL we should have a thread with clues for each of them, so we all can see them because the clues seems to be disappearing...

Usually if someone has a clue about someone other than Josh being F1, it gets dismissed as circumstancial.  However, any clue, no matter how small which indicates Josh is F1, gets accounted for almost as factual.  I just think RS spoiler gives people more confidence in anything that says Josh, is the F1, and less confidence in those that say otherwise.  

When people who post clues in someone else, it usually is easily dismissed, so the conversation about the clues usually do not continue.  I am not saying it's a bad thing, but just the way it seems on this forum.

Ash2214 wrote:

SueSt wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:
I'll bite--why not? 
The same reason Arie went to fly to NC and deliver Emily post show his journal/letter whatever it was he delivered. The same reason TPTB were able to convince Jeremy to come back to De after being driven around in the limo. There could be oodles of reasons, none of which I spend the time to entertain. 
I will wait for the scs.   
The most telling thing to me is how many people in the network of Murray/Dorfman's have heard that this(MeandI/Josh) is the couple.  It would be hard to refute this, unless there was something concretely contrary.

Is it true? IDK. I remember during Jason's season an aunt-in-law who babysat Ty during the NZ MTP and FRC. She knew Jason picked Melissa. She knew how things ended and the immed afterwards. But she didn't know anything past that. I repeatedly contacted her to tell her what I knew. Knew. Not what I thought. 
What ended up happening is what I knew and not what she had known. Had known being over and done. I don't know Jason, Melissa or Molly, yet I had info on what had transpired with some proof. So you never know, until you know. (right Yogi?)

thanks Kasha; you made a much more elegant and convincing argument that I ever could!    

Wait kasha, I'm confused Sue asked soccermom why if one was to believe that the video of Nick was a foiler why one would have to believe the rest of the clues pointing to Josh was a foiler. I understand what you're saying, but I don't see how that fully ties into what I was trying to say. If what Nick said in the video wasn't true and he's the one with Andi, I don't understand why Andi or Josh would snap chat each other - to the extent of becoming a part of his favorite list or why the Murray's would go to the extent they have to drop little clues. I'm not saying any of this points 100% to Josh, but what I am saying is that if Josh isn't the F1, well technically production and his family fooled us all. In my opinion at least, you can't really think one major part of evidence is a foiler and then another major part isn't. But that's okay. It's good that we can all agree or disagree with each other.

MonicaJM2001 wrote:The recent Bachelorettes have developed a pattern of no final 2 ceremony and letting the not picked one go early. I wonder if Andi followed a similar pattern with Nick (going by spoiler here) or if he was dumped at actual F2 rose ceremony

rosesrREd wrote:This is the only photo that seems to show Andi also wearing a leather bracelet.  It's not the same type, so IDK.

soccermom333 wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:This is the only photo that seems to show Andi also wearing a leather bracelet.  It's not the same type, so IDK.

what are Goergia's colors??