The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - F4 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

I love that RS can come to our rescue sometimes   See RS we will give u the credit you deserve so please do the same for others

Kashathediva wrote:I would be more interested in seeing the photo of San Antonio with Nick holding a rose. If anyone can find that and bring that forward that would be good. That would be definitive that he went to Ireland without going by a "source".

I would be interested in proof of Chris having a HTD. We had info for Ben/youth group/Nick/radio station/family/maybe siblings/ Shawn/Casino, whether it was accurate or not we don't know. For Chris we have a source stating he had a HTD but no other info. Where and when was the htd, what did they do?

As far as excluding Nick in the SM speculation, IMO we need to watch more closely then ever. We know Nick entered the show late. TPTB I'm sure have given strict instructions with regards to SM to most of the contestants. They are keeping Nick a secret and have been using SM to keep him active, from day one to make it look like everything is normal. Sleuthing confirms his SM activity is not normal. There are Nick fans who know every move he makes, and how he posts. I would guess now that he is home we will see the normal Nick posting. It already started with his Mothers Day tweet. So IMO we can't say just because so and so's SM is taken into consideration but not Nick's, it's like comparing apples to oranges. It's not the same thing. If Nick didn't use SM at all from March 9th to April 21st and suddenly started cleaning up his IG, then I would put him the F5/F6 bracket. JMHO

Is this what you guys are seeing?

I'm getting confused by all the sources, so let me see if I have this right...

We have a source that says Nick was seen on a date the first week of Ireland

We have a source that says Nick was eliminated the 2nd week of Ireland

We have a source that says they returned from Ireland the 17th - 19th
Same source says there were 4 HTD's - but RS saying that things were done differently with HTD's this year
Same source says F3 Nick, F2 Shawn, F1 Chris

A different source that says they stayed in Ireland another week - plus Ireland news outlets that indicated this.

We have a source that says there was HTD filming for Ben H on the 20th (is that the right date?)
Same source then said there was HTD filming for Ben H on the 28th - plus separate source also saying filming happened and town was abuzz, indicating the HTD did in fact happen on this day instead of the 20th

We have a source that said Nick was getting a HTD - family friend, and I can't remember if they indicated a date?
Different source that says Nick got a HTD and that his family flew out for it on the 27th
Then the radio show host that said Nick was getting a HTD

We have a source that said Shawn got a HTD - was this a tweet or something?

Is that all correct? I mean, that's clear as mud. Assuming this is at least partially right, I'm going with the simple theory of 'where there is smoke, there is fire'. A few different sources have indicated that Nick at least made it to HTD, so that seems like a good bet. A few different sources have indicated that Ben got a HTD, so that seems like a good bet. A few different sources have indicated that HTD's happened differently this year and happened around the 27th/28th, plus the Kaitlin LAX sighting on 29th, so I think it's a good bet that F4 didn't come back from Ireland on the 17th-19th and that HTD's happened later.

^ Yes.:Nod:

IrishGal wrote:Auntie, why would Kaitlyn accept him back into the group and then only keep him one or two episodes ? That just doesn't compute.

It would compute if they just aren't connecting as much as many think they would be. I have just been repeating here what I was told by a source. Sorry.

Nick was posting 3/25-3/27 when we had the photo evidence he was filming. Therefore, we can't use his sm activities to determine if and when he's eliminated. IMO. 
Btw, his sister's confirmation was in Milwaukee on April 26. (I don't know if I should be proud or embarrassed that I remember their family events 

Beagle wrote:Hotmomma, Nick and Kaitlyn were seen by someone in Dublin on April 6th, first in St Stephen Green Park and then again in Grafton St. That was the date that had dinner at Christ Church. It was the first 1 on 1 in Ireland.

Thanks! So they knew it was Nick..so that places him there.

Sorry to bog the thread down with rehashes. 
I found this, also.
link
posted on 04/16/2015 per pitci

This morning, 99.1 the Mix was telling viewers that Elizabeth's source (see bluwavz post above) was saying Nick made it to the Final 4. They were discussing what venues they should visit.

http://media.991themix.com/a/104213693/where-will-the-bachelor-camera-go.htm?q=nick+bachelorette

bluwavz posted this on 04/15:

 posted this link in the fan thread as well. Elizabeth from 99.1 The Mix said she heard from a source close to Nick's camp that the film crews would be going to Wisconsin in a few weeks to film. This was when Nick first appeared on the show

So it's definite that Nick made it to Ireland. And it looks like he did have a HTD.

allykat wrote:I'm getting confused by all the sources, so let me see if I have this right...
We have a source that says Nick was seen on a date the first week of Ireland
We have a source that says Nick was eliminated the 2nd week of Ireland
We have a source that says they returned from Ireland the 17th - 19th
Same source says there were 4 HTD's - but RS saying that things were done differently with HTD's this year
Same source says F3 Nick, F2 Shawn, F1 ChrisA different source that says they stayed in Ireland another week - plus Ireland news outlets that indicated this.We have a source that says there was HTD filming for Ben H on the 20th (is that the right date?)
Same source then said there was HTD filming for Ben H on the 28th - plus separate source also saying filming happened and town was abuzz, indicating the HTD did in fact happen on this day instead of the 20th
We have a source that said Nick was getting a HTD - family friend, and I can't remember if they indicated a date?
Different source that says Nick got a HTD and that his family flew out for it on the 27thThen the radio show host that said Nick was getting a HTDWe have a source that said Shawn got a HTD - was this a tweet or something?
Is that all correct? I mean, that's clear as mud. Assuming this is at least partially right, I'm going with the simple theory of 'where there is smoke, there is fire'. A few different sources have indicated that Nick at least made it to HTD, so that seems like a good bet. A few different sources have indicated that Ben got a HTD, so that seems like a good bet. A few different sources have indicated that HTD's happened differently this year and happened around the 27th/28th, plus the Kaitlin LAX sighting on 29th, so I think it's a good bet that F4 didn't come back from Ireland on the 17th-19th and that HTD's happened later.

Yes.so I guess we can chose what to believe..all sources are not named person ( as they shouldn't be)
Clear as mud!

Kashathediva wrote:Sorry to bog the thread down with rehashes. 
I found this, also.
link
posted on 04/16/2015 per pitci

This morning, 99.1 the Mix was telling viewers that Elizabeth's source (see bluwavz post above) was saying Nick made it to the Final 4. They were discussing what venues they should visit.

http://media.991themix.com/a/104213693/where-will-the-bachelor-camera-go.htm?q=nick+bachelorette

bluwavz posted this on 04/15:

 posted this link in the fan thread as well. Elizabeth from 99.1 The Mix said she heard from a source close to Nick's camp that the film crews would be going to Wisconsin in a few weeks to film. This was when Nick first appeared on the show

So it's definite that Nick made it to Ireland. And it looks like he did have a HTD.

and as per sdmom's post which solidifies we can't compare Nick's SM activities to others since he or whoever was using SM when he was clearly filming.

Ally- nice recap. I posted in the no discussion thread with some minor changes in the dates.

allykat wrote:I'm getting confused by all the sources, so let me see if I have this right...

We have a source that says Nick was seen on a date the first week of Ireland

We have a source that says Nick was eliminated the 2nd week of Ireland

We have a source that says they returned from Ireland the 17th - 19th
Same source says there were 4 HTD's - but RS saying that things were done differently with HTD's this year
Same source says F3 Nick, F2 Shawn, F1 Chris

A different source that says they stayed in Ireland another week - plus Ireland news outlets that indicated this.

We have a source that says there was HTD filming for Ben H on the 20th (is that the right date?)
Same source then said there was HTD filming for Ben H on the 28th - plus separate source also saying filming happened and town was abuzz, indicating the HTD did in fact happen on this day instead of the 20th

We have a source that said Nick was getting a HTD - family friend, and I can't remember if they indicated a date?
Different source that says Nick got a HTD and that his family flew out for it on the 27th
Then the radio show host that said Nick was getting a HTD

We have a source that said Shawn got a HTD - was this a tweet or something?

Is that all correct? I mean, that's clear as mud. Assuming this is at least partially right, I'm going with the simple theory of 'where there is smoke, there is fire'. A few different sources have indicated that Nick at least made it to HTD, so that seems like a good bet. A few different sources have indicated that Ben got a HTD, so that seems like a good bet. A few different sources have indicated that HTD's happened differently this year and happened around the 27th/28th, plus the Kaitlin LAX sighting on 29th, so I think it's a good bet that F4 didn't come back from Ireland on the 17th-19th and that HTD's happened later.

It's an onion!  No it's a pomegranate!  It's Mesa Verde and the accounting department is betting 

Look, Nick Ashley S Nick is on tv 

I'm betting with you.  Odds are good. 
Boom.