Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #5

From IG: @nick_viall28 reposted @jessicalowndes pic that says: DO ALL THINGS WITH KINDNESS

JMHO, I think it's understandable that Kaitlyn doesn't want to "talk about it", because the discussion has been going on for over a month, since the preview, before people even knew anything for sure and even today, we still don't know how things really played out and what took place at what time for all the words we try to analyze.

I'm a bit curious by the posts I read of people stating that they liked Nick before the last epi., but now they can't stand him ... and I wonder what has changed? ... Because I see the same Nick as usual, just the same I see the same Kaitlyn from the last season.
Only that this season all the PDA and else is elevated, more in our faces (not my preference) ... and I get it that it takes away from the beautiful, romantic, care-free story ... but that's the reality of this kind of show, it's messy, it's tricky, it's disrespectful at times, it's competitive and unfair for some and it can never be "innocent" if you have a lead dating multiple contestants at the same time. Have you ever seen the movie "Because I said so" (Diane Keaton, Mandy Moore & Gabriel Macht)? Only that this is the life of real people we are witnessing and I for starters am really happy that I don't have to be in their shoes.

OnePromise wrote:Do we know that her statement about the mistake was truly about having sex with Nick?

In one of her interviews that I watched today (I think it was the People Now) she said that the "mistake" and remorse she was feeling was indeed over having had sex with Nick and that effect on the other guys and as I recall did mention Shawn by name.

Lucas15 wrote:

OnePromise wrote:Do we know that her statement about the mistake was truly about having sex with Nick?

In one of her interviews that I watched today (I think it was the People interview) she said that the "mistake" and remorse she was feeling was indeed over having had sex with Nick and that effect on the other guys and as I recall did mention Shawn by name.

I'd love to watch the People interview. Is there a link?

Here's the link for the people interview. She's just making it so obvious with what she says about Nick and Shawn. Also if i were unspoiled it'd be so clear Nick and Shawn were final two

http://www.people.com/article/bachelorette-kaitlyn-bristowe-sex-nick-viall-sl*t-shamed-because-woman

lurker11 wrote:Here's the link for the people interview. She's just making it so obvious with what she says about Nick and Shawn. Also if i were unspoiled it'd be so clear Nick and Shawn were final two

http://www.people.com/article/bachelorette-kaitlyn-bristowe-sex-nick-viall-sl*t-shamed-because-woman

Link still works - watch the video named "Kaitlyn Bristowe Says She Was Sex-shamed 'Because I'm a Woman'". She does specifically state the remorse was because of a strong relationship with another guy (around 3:30) and shortly thereafter identifies Shawn as the other guy.

This interview really drives home the point that they needed to cut to the chase from 6 to 3 because Kaitlyn and Shawn were DONE NOW with filming, thank you, after her two little (major) mistakes of spilling the beans to Shawn he's f1 and then sleeping with Nick days later.

If they were done, she would have sent Nick home. Unless she does, sending home the guys who support Shawn and are of little interest to Kaitlyn, does little. Unless, the focus at that time was on Kaitlyn's increasing interest and time with Jared.

curious to see how it plays out but shawn visits K TWO times -- not calmly and casually but very passionately asking in a raised voice flabbergasted "don't you know what we have?" demands an answer -- pretty much issuing an ultimatum "are you in love with me?"
He can't take her giving a GDR to someone else
He tells the producer that he doesn't know if he can take it -- was he threatening to leave??
There's very little to suggest that Kaitlyn was DONE with her other relationships. on the contrary she seemed quite giddy with jared during that guiness date and that "moment" they shared...she got "lost in nick" to a point she forgot where she was and what she was doing...

There is very little evidence to suggest otherwise -- Shawn is the reason for the 6-->3 transition.

Lucas15 wrote:

OnePromise wrote:Do we know that her statement about the mistake was truly about having sex with Nick?

In one of her interviews that I watched today (I think it was the People Now) she said that the "mistake" and remorse she was feeling was indeed over having had sex with Nick and that effect on the other guys and as I recall did mention Shawn by name.

It is funny how people interpret things differently. She did not say that it was a mistake only that she felt quilty because she was having strong feelings for Shawn at the same time.She never said she felt remorse or that it would effect the other guys. Just still about the timing of it. She really needs to stop giving interviews about it she is still being sl** shamed about how she she acts on the show .

The link is no longer there... Does anyone else have that problem?

Sorry. Got it to work. Thanks.

OnePromise wrote:The link is no longer there... Does anyone else have that problem?

When you go to the link click HOME and it took me there.

That was a good interview. I thought that she explained her thoughts well. She was trying to compartmentalize each relationship separate from the others, but she struggled with being too verbal with Shawn and too physical with Nick. And both a little too soon that it messed with her head and her relationships.