NO SPOILERS - CHASE - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing NO Spoilers*

rhondam wrote:Too funny Litta and AC  and for my part....and I would never say it outside of here....when I wake up through the night and in the mornings, I feel absolutely foolish that these people's dilemma's are what I'm dreaming about!! 

AC, I thought that was FakeJake's shoe.  

Lost I think it is funny and sweet how you dig your heels in and do not waiver on Luke! He NEEDS to know what a faithful fan he has!   Hi Luke! If you pop in to visit, make sure to read all of @Lost17 's posts on here!!

I love your analysis above too aviej. And I agree that JoJo's socioeconomic status and lifestyle are most similar to Jordan's and Robby's. 

I know you are not suggesting that JoJo is a snob in any way and neither am I. I do believe she's envisioned how her life would change specifically, depending on which guy she chooses. The importance of this decision highlights her maturity and intelligence IMO, which is, more or less, IIRC, what Des, Ali and Kaitlyn told her would be the most important factor of her decision in the end.

Obviously many couples are insanely happy when their love is their only jumping off point—these are our real and fictional fairy tales.  We also know that a mutually happy, loving relationship is the result of the necessary respect and sacrifice required while dealing with the highs and lows that, when all balanced out, is in no one person's favour. So, unless JoJo is someone who can be happy any where, under any circumstance, then these considerations are essential when deciding her future and are not meant to be discriminatory IMO. If in fact, she does choose a guy with a similar background as her own. AJMOAA

veg_out wrote:Mia! It fascinates me that you think she doesn't like him. What about her behavior, or lack thereof, makes you think that she isn't into him?

veg_out wrote:Even though it's a 2:1, Chase is the first of the men to technically get a 2nd date, so that's a positive. I agree. It will work for his benefit overall.

Are we thinking that the 2:1 was meant to scare Chase? Or do we think that Derek needed to go home and that this was a way to also incite competition for Chase thus inserting an obstacle in their relationship? Yes, to light a fire. Yes, the 2 guys who are more beta than alpha compete. I do think it's producer-driven. They are trying to rev things up Chojo. 

Based on what I said yesterday about men backing down when they know that another guy is interesting in a girl, I wonder if someone in the "clique" started to express genuine interest in JoJo and Chase decided to back off. Maybe...but I also think he was shying away out of insecurity. I think this is his challenge. He hasn't had hardly any one on one time with her since their 1:1. 

I am curious about a few other things left in Chase's edit: 1. He was shown twice following the words "gonna be a ride" and "roller coaster." Is their relationship very up and down the entire season? Or is it that the path to their final coupling is a roller coaster? I'd like to think it's the latter. 2. Chase indicated that getting engaged is a scary thing. Would he hesitate about getting engaged once the reality of it started staring him in the face? I don't think so. I think he is all in with JoJo. After he told her getting engaged is scary, he said the fear could be overcome if there is enough love there  3. Chase was highlighted when JoJo said that the RC in B.A. only made her more confused. Confused was laid over his face. Does the end just confuse him and make him overthink and worry himself out of the relationship? Do we know the 2:1 date was after the GD and Wells' 1:1? She said "I thought last night was going to help me, and it just made me more confused." So not sure what it's in context to. Maybe after connecting deeper with Chase on that date, she is more confused about her relationships with the others? Or maybe at this point she wasn't sure she wanted to keep him around over James T? Hence, keeping that last rose for another week? 
Or, to perpetuate a doubt in Chase's storyline for next episode?

agentcurls wrote:
Another conversation that may come full circle:
"What can I do to help you remember that moment (YabYum?)" -Chase
"Aw, I'll never forget it." -JoJo

She either:
1) Will be so caught up with Luke/Jordan/Robby that she will forget it (kind of like Ben's comment "I won't blindside you, I promise.") 
2) She will remember/reminisce with fondness as she cuts him loose
3) She will remember throughout the whole process and it will anchor her decision

veg_out wrote:I think it's interesting that there are no previews of the 2:1 date.

I am starting to consider that Chase and Jo's dynamic takes a shift into bumpy territory where they never quite find the cruise button. If Chase is a beta male, then he certainly will take a back seat to Robby or Jordan in a "fight" for Jo.

Like I mentioned in Luke's thread, if Chase does get cut at FSD, we'll need to see something weird happen in his edit, something that calls their dynamic into question, like we did with Reid/Jill, Ben/Caila, Kait/Ben for us to understand the reason that she lets him go.