JoJo Fletcher - Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Discussion - #3

Alanna wrote:I don't think Jo's insecurity issues can go away so quickly either so even though a man flirting isn't a huge deal, provided that's all he did, I can see how it would be enough to trigger her way out of whack asap, no questions asked. Since there have been no signs of other issues that I've seen, I think they (he, really) can right this ship just fine imo. Depends how much he enjoyed being in his old stomping grounds with his friends, flirting getting attention from girls, etc., versus how much he's okay continuing to help Jo with her trust and secure issues. All imo.

Yeah I agree. This is the first red flag that I've seen. Jordan and JoJo have been apart plenty of times for an extended period and neither rushed to get right back to each other. Jordan did it often for her, but it wasn't every single time, so I think it was more so them wanting to make sure they had plenty of time together when work was busy for him.

If this was all that happened, then I think all will eventually be okay. I do feel bad for JoJo. I get it. She was cheated on previously and while Jordan isn't that guy, it's not easy.

geez... could be as simple as them getting ready to pose for a fan photo...

@sosleepy a couple can still be solid, and then something happens that gets them both angry. We don't personally know them, but with most of these couples something occurs that makes us pay attention. Up until last night, there was nothing. I'm surprised too because I think they've been very mature the past year.

He's been busting his butt helping her with her flip house and they seemed to be enjoying their Nashville trip - him holding her in snaps and she recording him playing video games with his friends. Whatever it was, something triggered her IMO and then him last night. It's definitely something to watch though moving forward.

BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:geez... could be as simple as them getting ready to pose for a fan photo...

Fan photo or not, I think when you are in a committed relationship, there are physical boundaries that need to be respected Being that close into someone's personal bubble still registers as a transgression to me. Have you guys seen the video in question? Different couples have different rules about what is okay and what isn't, but I just wanted to pipe up and say that I can see why what he did could trigger a bigger conversation about boundaries and respect. I don't think this is an overreaction, though unfollowing each other on SM definitely drew more attention to this.

BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:geez... could be as simple as them getting ready to pose for a fan photo...

And if thats what it was and she flew off the handle, I can see him being angry himself and unfollowing her too before these two got a grip imo. Either way, her unfollow doesn't mean, "go away, I hate you," it was more of a "chase after me, I'm so mad!" Which clearly he did imo.

Agreed it'll be interesting to keep an eye on them and this type of behavior going forward.

Just my opinion, @ash2214. People were raking Josh and Amanda over the coals for this identical behavior. And I don't think things are always as the seem on social media. I'm sure there was much more to the argument than we understand or realize - and it must have been a bad one to unfollow like that. Anyway, agree just the first red flag and definitely something to keep an eye on.

I hope they are ok for the sake of the fans.

IA with @sosleepy. Although it's cute that Jordan flies with JoJo, and takes detours just so he can fly with her, there really IMO is something wrong with that. If she's afraid of flying, ok I could see that, but after all the travelling she does and has done, one would think she would get use to it.

The other thing, IMO it's never good to be joined at the hip. Did Jordan ever go out with his friends before? Other than work related, golfing etc.

He appears to be very accommodating and basically does a lot with her even helping with the flips. If he is the one that has to prove himself all the time, that can get old. All of the above makes me think there are trust issues as well.

IDk I'd be freakin too if I saw those pics.

Or it was 4 am and they were drunk and stupid. Seriously, I really like JoJo, but she is still young. She has been awesome this past year, but she is still the sweet, young and sometimes silly girl we saw on the bachelorette. She tried to convince herself to pick Robby because she was afraid Jordan would hurt her. He has spent a year being very careful and after a full year, gets caught in a noisy bar having a conversation where he leans into a girl to hear her. Perhaps more happened or perhaps some of the lovely trolls on SM let her know as soon as this was posted and since it was the middle of the night, she overreacted a bit, and Jordan who has been a very good boy got pissed right back. Then she calmed down and got over it and they both acted like adults again.

My bff's hubby threw a fit at a party, stormed out in public, moved all his stuff out of her place and canceled a trip. Six months later they were engaged and they have been married for eight years and their daughter is about to be three. Crap happens, people drink and lose their tempers.

Once it becomes a pattern then I will chime the break up bells, until then, I hope they both learned to take a breath before over reacting and maybe to avoid alcohol when out without each other.

All JMO.

During the season airing, especially, and basically up till now he's been very careful about his hands and hand placement.  Maybe it was a slip up (it can happen, especially if a few to many drinks were involved), maybe its a friend, maybe it's something for Jojo to legit be worried about, who knows. 

If this type thing becomes the norm, then they won't last long.  If it was just something that accidentally happened then IMO they can work threw it, if they want to.  They've handled things pretty well, IMO, and better than I thought they would be able to.  

As for them traveling together or him making extra trips for her.  From what's been noted and observed here by fans, she seldom travels alone.  Her brother, mother or someone often accompaines .  I don't know if that's her choice, Jordans, or the families, but it happens.  

So I'm not sure it's smoke and fire yet, but could be the start of it.  Who knows... will have to wait and see.  Whatever happens, I hope they make the best choices for them, as quickly as possible.

JMO

GuardianAngel wrote:IA with @sosleepy. Although it's cute that Jordan flies with JoJo, and takes detours just so he can fly with her, there really IMO is something wrong with that. If she's afraid of flying, ok I could see that, but after all the travelling she does and has done, one would think she would get use to it.

The other thing, IMO it's never good to be joined at the hip. Did Jordan ever go out with his friends before? Other than work related, golfing etc.

He appears to be very accommodating and basically does a lot with her even helping with the flips. If he is the one that has to prove himself all the time, that can get old. All of the above makes me think there are trust issues as well.

IDk I'd be freakin too if I saw those pics.

Yes, Jordan has made trips, quite a few actually, in the last year that were to Nashville alone to be with friends and also to CA to be with his friend Brandon. JoJo wasn't on those trips. He only flew back to her one time to catch a flight with her. He said he didn't want her to fly alone because the flight was longer and she isn't a fan of flying. That was only one time. They fly together frequently, but that's because they're heading to the same place together. She doesn't like flying and she doesn't fly alone, pretty much ever. Her brother has gone when able to as well as her mother. There have been plenty of work trips with Jordan being spotted out with his male co-workers in bars and restaurants after working.

From August-December, the guy is off at work 5-7 days a month. Similarly to his co-worker Peter who is married, when he's able to get sooner, he does.

JoJo doesn't fly alone?

Yeah. Those pictures (I haven't seen the video so I won't comment on that) don't look good. Especially considering Jordan's history. I am married and that would not fly.

They need to grow up if they want to last. This is some petty sh!t

All JMO.