Bachelor Australia - Season 5 - Matty Johnson - Sleuthed SCs - NO Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Post sleuthed SCs (dates, contestants, locations, F4-F1, etc) here for easy retrieval. No Discussion.


Season Preview video

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Location SCs - Thailand (finale sleuthed/said to be filmed here, possibly F3/F2 go)



Champagne Yacht in Thailand 
- sleuthed to include picnic on beach with umbrella 
- speculated to be Elise per bikini, body posture, length of hair, etc 

catalyst wrote:

Sundy wrote:Possible overseas caps  (The islands in the background are definitely Thailand. We don't have islands like that)


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I think these are definitely Thailand, that terrain is very Phi Phi island to me

I think in the second s/cap here, Matty is standing at the back of the boat in the first s/cap due to that double wooden bar going up on both which I think is very distinctive

mercieme wrote:
These 2 SCs are together IMO, the extended part white part of the deck of the boat in the first SC is seen in the second SC and Matty is wearing white in both SCs - the green water

Sundy wrote:Possible overseas caps  (The islands in the background are definitely Thailand. We don't have islands like that)

Sundy wrote:I know it's suspected but I just noticed that the wooden boat is in the background of the Thailand beach umbrella shot. We can therefore tie all of those sc to the same date


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Knowsarose wrote:
The motor yacht for the Thailand F1 or F2 date looks to be named "Champagne" and sails from Phuket/Kama Bay. Available from $5397 per day.

https://www.nowboat.com/charter/kama-bay/

AllAboutLove wrote:
Pic of yacht and Thailand flag on yacht



video of boat

Arabella in Thailand
- contestant unknown (speculated to be Laura if she is in F2, or else Elise if Champagne yacht is Laura)

SugarAndSpice wrote:

Sundy wrote:I believe this says Arabella


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 right at the end [of season preview] there is the Arabella boat. Check out the screen caps below. I definitely think its another Thai sailing trip!!

SC from tenplay extended promo of the Arabella


Compare with the Arabella which won the Phuket Kings Sailing regatta in 2015

Source: http://www.sail-world.com/Australia/Phuket-Kings-Cup-%E2%80%93-the-Breeze-is-Back/140743

Further to that, the company that owns the Arabella (Naked Sail) does sunset cruises on the Andaman sea

mercieme wrote:the other boat sleuthed for Thailand is the Arabella. I actually found more details on it....supposedly it's a catamaran and it takes off from Phang Nga Bay which is further away than Phuket from than the Santhiya resort based on the map on the resort website.

Here is the link with details on the Arabella catamaran
http://www.nakedretreats.cn/naked-sail/en-US/about-arabella

Arabella is a luxury sailing catamaran that prioritizes smooth operation under power and sail. It has three different levels meaning that even with 10 guests aboard, it never feels cramped. The flydeck has cosy benches, sofas and tables which provide a spacious and decadent haven for relaxation. The large saloon located at the bottom deck has panoramic windows so that you are able to enjoy the beauty of the landscape while sailing.

FRC - sleuthed to be at Santhiya Koh Yao Yai Resort & Spa in southern Thailand
FRC sleuthed to be around May 19/20 or so here

Wrecking Ball wrote:
JMO DT is being fed set photographers photos by the producers to counter the fact that they know they have been papped! Confidential and JMO are the source. Daily Mail gets the raw material straight from the Paps! The final 2 is being shot right now [May 20] in another country on the Asian continent! Not sating where but its warm and

ElonM wrote:Matty liked a post on IG [May 20/21]. Could it be that filming is done? He liked a post by @adrian.roodenburg.

Bobette wrote:Daily Mail is reporting that filming has wrapped for Matty's season  But, they state their source is us so....   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4539314/The-Bachelor-finishes-filming-exotic-destination.html

Sundy wrote:Could be completely unrelated as Helen is normally very careful with posting stuff whilst filming but this popped up on her IG yesterday [May 21]. It could be a clue to location or it could be a clue that filming has actually wrapped.

@helendowsleylashes Working in a pretty cool location this week. To celebrate with every order you'll receive a free pair if you write "lashmeHD"
 https://www.instagram.com/p/BUWamMMAVSW/?hl=en&taken-by=helendowsleylashes

AllAboutLove wrote:@Sundy nice find   yes IA it could be a clue about the final week location

Bobette wrote:

bachfan05 wrote:Santhiya Koh Yao Yai Resort & Spa in southern Thailand

https://destinia.com/hotels/santhiya-koh-yao-yai-resort--spa/phang-nga/phang-nga/tailandia/asia/294258/es

https://www.nsafer.com/Hotels/Phuket/Santhiya_Koh_Yao_Yai_Resort__Spa?SCID=280385&HID=315501&CHKIN=21/06/2016&CHKOUT=22/06/2016&NID=1523&CID=10330&RNO=1&ADNO=2&CHNO=0

LeapofFaith wrote:The FRC was sleuthed to be Santhiya Koh Yao Yai Resort & Spa in southern Thailand.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4548882/Has-Bachelor-finale-destination-revealed.html#ixzz4oO8kr5Et

ETA Someone sleuthed it on here a while back i'm sorry i cant remember who it was!!!

mercieme wrote:

LeapofFaith wrote:@mercieme The FRC was sleuthed to be Santhiya Koh Yao Yai Resort & Spa in southern Thailand.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4548882/Has-Bachelor-finale-destination-revealed.html#ixzz4oO8kr5Et
ETA Someone sleuthed it on here a while back i'm sorry i cant remember who it was!!!

....the Santhiya resort is 20 minutes away from Phuket by motor boat per information on the resort website noted here

So IMO that Champagne motor yacht date is the last chance date (F2 to F1 date)....very interesting indeed that Elise is speculated to have that Champagne motor yacht date.

Laura's SCs  (will update and edit as sleuthed/confirmed)



Laura's 1st SD in Ep 3 
- at Middle Harbour Marina, including painting, and also a picnic on board a super yacht 'Murcielago' 
- filmed (Mar 10) here

Sundy wrote:

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Laura on SQT date in Ep 7 
- on a Cruise along Nepean river to a waterfall in Penrith per DT here
- note that DT says "single date" but it was SQT ("won" GD per Matty)
- note that DT says "this week" which was the week of April 6 which would make this SQT nearly a month into filming (Laura's 1st SD was March 10)

In exclusive pictures from a date this week, Confidential can reveal Matty took this mystery lady on a single date this week.
The pair — photographed here walking arm-in-arm — took a cruise along the Nepean river to a waterfall for a romantic rendezvous.

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SC identified as Laura crying at mansion 
- may have something to do with a walkout or drama (of course) as discussed here

Sundy wrote:Laura crying at mansion
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SCs identified as Laura at mansion walking over bridge wearing purple

Amalia wrote:

Sundy wrote: Laura at mansion walking over bridge wearing purple

Tenplay.com

looks like the mansion to me,... It looks like this location... In the preview shown before the first episode (https://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/the-bachelor/season-5/episode-1), just before the moment of screencap above, Laura appears to walk across this bridge, with the red flowers visible (IMO).

Source: https://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/the-bachelor/photos/behind-the-scenes-the-bachelor-mansion#28

Identified as Laura  ***2nd SD in Ep 11*** 

LeapofFaith wrote:
scs by Sundy tenplay.com

Regarding the Blanket seen in this SC 
- may be taken with them while traveling or at Bach Pad mansion (where Matty stays)
- may be mansion, around Sydney, or someplace else 
- Blanket as sleuthed above matches with the bachpad so could be there or around Sydney

Amalia wrote:I just noted that the blanket in the screencap may match the blanket in a behind the scenes photo from the mansion. The background doesn't match at all, though (IMO).  I suppose this may not be relevant at all, though (IMO), as I suppose they bring their props with them to any location they may go to and a blanket would be a super easy thing to bring along and they probably have several of them anyway?? (All IMO)
egarding the poles/columns/pillars 

Adding this SC from Ep 7 to indicate Laura is wearing hair extensions on the show. Her true hair length is shoulder length (just under). This SC is not part of season preview SC sleuthing but may help with future SCs for F3/F2/F2 etc

AllAboutLove wrote:Just posting this here because I noticed in the last episodes that Laura's hair was longer (so extensions) so it may be she wears her hair long in upcoming episodes.

Just something to look out for when matching SCs and length of hair and even color (it can seem a bit lighter too in different lighting)


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*** If Laura is in the F2 and goes to Thailand, IMO she may get the date with Arabella boat (see SCs above in thread). If indeed F1, then it could be another season where F1 is more hidden in F2 SCs in the season promo (as was the case with Lee)

Elise's SCs  (will update as more is sleuthed)



Elise first? date in Ep 10??? 
- hockey, lemonade, hot tub 
- BTS pics and DT media pics before season aired here

Sundy wrote:


scs by sundy tenplay.com

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/theres-no-shortage-of-hot-babes-for-matty-j-but-is-this-former-hockey-pro-the-one-to-beat/news-story/c54d8b4abf064ad3ad6ee5b8c527b967)[/url]

mercieme wrote:This SC is from Elise's Hockey/Yacht date. You can see the Sydney Harbor in the background similar to the DM video from the same date.

Source: Poster Sundy's SC from TenPlay website
DM BTS Videos of Elise's date

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Identified as Elise - speculated to be in Sydney somewhere possibly (2nd SD, SQT or FD)

Sundy wrote:
In this screencap there are images on the wall that are quite distinctive. I'm not sure if they are projected onto the wall or painted there. They seem to be human figures

mercieme wrote:#whoels some folks already concluded that the polka dot dress was Elise but just to solidify that it was her....here is a pic of her from her IG rocking IMO the same dress having drinks with her friends  One thing also is that the dress looks like polka dot but it's actually tiny white little stars IMO when you enlarge both the SC and IG pic


Source: Poster Sundy's SC from TenPlay website

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Elise matching rings (index and pinky finger) to SC of her dancing with Matty
- could be flipped image (they have done this before) and/or she wears on both hands 

iamreal2u wrote:Handsies with Elise:


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***speculated to be Elise possibly in Thailand****
- possibly Elise in Thailand based on bathing suit seen in her hot tub date and body posture
- speculated to be for possible LCD and in F2

Bobette wrote:

mercieme wrote:

LeapofFaith wrote:IMO this is Elise in Thailand... the hair and the black bathing suit looks like the one she was wearing on her SD with Matty in Sydney.

sundy sc tenplay.com

I just noticed the back of that swimming suit, it's cross back like the one Elise wore on her hot tub date and IA that's it Thailand with the sandy beach.

Pic of Elise in Spa - compare swimsuit & posture.  That's her on the beach IMO.


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Source: Sundy's SC from TenPlay

Sundy wrote:I know it's suspected but I just noticed that the wooden boat is in the background of the Thailand beach umbrella shot. We can therefore tie all of those sc to the same date


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Tara's SCs   (Note: will update them as more is sleuthed)


Tara's first SD seen in Ep 6 - bike riding in Vaucluse 

Sundy wrote:think this could be a match [location Vaucluse]. There is a light house in the background too


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Tara on another SD in Ep 9 - Moroccan themed date with a camel and a snake charmer (Apr 10) here

sundy wrote:

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AllAboutLove wrote:

catalyst wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4446008/Matty-J-shares-kiss-Bachelor-cameramen-look-on.html

 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4446008/Matty-J-shares-kiss-Bachelor-cameramen-look-on.html

Tara on another SD (or FD if in Sydney) - on a seaplane flight to Sydney’s Cottage Point (said to be week of/before May 12 per DT), matching hair, clothes, and earrings

Sundy wrote:

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AllAboutLove wrote: Pics from the article posted by @bachfan05
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/matty-j-getting-high-on-love-as-he-courts-his-bachelorettes/news-story/3930840a8a241f291e4cf90614a65812

Bobette wrote:

mercieme wrote:
full view of that seaplane from the article published in the Herald today Sat, July 15th. So the flight was chartered from Sydney Seaplane and there are a bunch of date packages as can be seen here. My guess is that whoever was on that date was taken on the fly/dine package (jmo anyways).

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No rings on the hand we can see, but she is wearing earrings and a necklace.  
ps Here is the text from the original article accompanying the pic:

He was also snapped taking a seaplane flight to Sydney’s Cottage Point with another date. A source told The Daily Telegraph real feelings are starting to develop between Matty and a couple of the women, with one even scoring a kiss outside the door of the seaplane.

mercieme wrote:Based on the description of the seaplane date, it was a full date IMO and not SQT date since we have had similar full day SDs like that in the past. Lisa the F2 on Blake's S2 season went on that fly/dine date via a seaplane.

ETA - here is the full description of that date from the Sydney Seaplane website

LUNCH AT COTTAGE POINT INN, HAWKESBURY RIVER

Twenty minutes in the air takes you away from the hustle and bustle of Sydney to the award winning Cottage Point Inn. This beautiful restaurant is perched on the water's edge in the heart of the Ku-ring-gai Chase National Park and is renowned for offering exceptional modern Australian cuisine.

Upon landing we taxi the aircraft to the restaurant's seaplane dock, where Cottage Point Inn's friendly staff offer a warm welcome and a wide variety of great Australian wines. After a leisurely 3-course a la carte lunch, created by chef Guillaume Zika, you'll reboard your seaplane and return to Sydney Harbour. To top off a magical afternoon we offer you an incredible photo opportunity flying a circuit of the Harbour Bridge and Opera House, before landing at Rose Bay.

Flight details
$535 per person, minimum 2 adults
Includes:
Return seaplane flights
3-course a la carte lunch (beverages not included)
Total tour duration: 4 hours
Total flying time: 40 minutes
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AllAboutLove wrote:from Press reader of Daily Telegraph week of May 12... two contestants [Tara and Cobie] said to have been filming that week (so prior to May 12). Keep in mind, if accurate, FRC was before May 20...?? 


https://www.pressreader.com/australia/the-daily-telegraph-sydney/20170512/281767039143248

SugarAndSpice wrote:The single hulled boat, IMO looks like its at Cottage Point (which is surrounded by really nice leafy, rolling hills). I think that was where Tara had her seaplane date?

Compare the hill in the back drop

Source: my sc from tenplay

Cottage point

Source: http://sydney-getaway.com.au/index.php?page=image-gallery

Florence's SCs  (will update/edit as sleuthed)


Florence's first SD seen in Ep 4 (first sleuthed by @Amalia and matched by @Sundy)

Sundy wrote:

Amalia wrote:I believe that this is Florence, based on the tattoo on the back of her arm (mentioned earlier in her thread). I see a lot of Florence in the new preview. Makes me thinks she might make it to F4.

sc by Sundy tenplay.com

I'm now convinced bungy jumpy is Florence. The tattoo on the arm of the girl matches a photo on florences IG.

SugarAndSpice wrote:@Sundy I think I finally found the bungee! I think its from the new apartments in Sydney Olympic Park - Australia Avenue, looking down toward parramatta river and bennelong bridge...
https://goo.gl/maps/8cuDLQbuXgL2

Sundy wrote:Just also confirming @SugarandSpices match for the bungy jump as this location on Australia Avenue Sydney. Great work. The building is a match

Identified as Florence - **shown in Ep 8 for SQT after winning GD race**

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Identified as Florence - ***her 2nd SD in Ep 12***

Sundy wrote:

Flo jumper/sweater looks the same

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Identified as Florence - sleuthed/speculated to be on possible HTD/in F4 (and speculated to be F4 and not in F3)

Sundy wrote:Note Mattys hair in the second bottom photo looks shorter. I'm pegging this as later in the season. The last photo looks like she is waiting for him. Reminiscent of a HTD if you as me  She is also holding a flower (tulip, Dutch heritage)


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Elora's SCs



Elora's first SD in Ep 2 - whale watching at Port Stephens aboard a catamaran (Mar 6) here

Sundy wrote:

Elora on overnight date in Ep 8
- has rose in SC so confirms she stays (as noted by GD F7 BTS pics)

mercieme wrote:These are are both Elora IMO...tattoo seen on the on the right hand wrist and then the same lace top in both SCs.

Sundy wrote:has a rose in the SC so a SD
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Scaps courtesy of tenplay

AllAboutLove wrote:

Sundy wrote:It's Elora for the overnight

SCs of Matty with Elora (holding her hand by door) is from overnight date

AllAboutLove wrote:Elora gets the overnight the date as speculated.
The next episode preview showed almost the exact SCs of Elora that we already sleuthed to be Elora from the season preview - here is the SC from the season preview and next ep preview showing matching SCs and Elora on the date:

per Sundy tenplay.com

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Sundy wrote:Sneak peek episode 8. Courtesy tenplay
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Identified as Elora - could be part of overnight date in Ep 8

Sundy wrote:

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Cobie's SCs (will update/edit for sleuthed info)


Cobie SD in Ep 4 - horse riding

Sundy wrote:Is there a polo themed date at all?

mercieme wrote:@Sundy we didn't see any polo dates in the BTS pics 

I only wondered about polo because of the pillow below.


Could this be from the Polo date and match this earlier sleuthed cap

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Cobie in Ep ??? - climbing date - could be part of group date - location needs to be sleuthed

mercieme wrote:Cobie's picture of the climbing adventurous date was leaked the same week as the helicopter lunch date that has now been confirmed as Tara. We discussed the pics on the forum on May 12th but IIRC it was posted in DT on May 11th. IMO it's possible as you mention that Cobie's climbing date was a second single date or it could be an SQT as well....interesting that we didn't get the SC for Cobie's climbing date in the season promo but we got her polo club SD SCs.

AllAboutLove wrote:

bachfan05 wrote:http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/matty-j-getting-high-on-love-as-he-courts-his-bachelorettes/news-story/3930840a8a241f291e4cf90614a65812

Pics from the article above



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Sundy wrote:

Bobette wrote:Could the flying fox pic of Cobie actually be part of a group date?  It has a similar vibe to the trapeze date with Matty.  Also she seems to have a blindfold on which reminds me of those stupid "trust exercises" they get you to do on corporate team building weekends - would seem to me more a team date than a solo.  JMO.

I think it's possibly a group date

Elise matching rings (index and pinky finger) to SC of her dancing with Matty

iamreal2u wrote:Handsies with Elise:


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my sc from teaser source


for me this is Fishing village on sea-stilts, Ko Panyi, Phang Nga Bay Marine National Park, Phang Nga Province,

this place is very close to James Bond island


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to show the place but not the pic since it is a paying picture SEE HERE

this was a place I kept closely in mind when I was sleuthing in the non spoiler and when I found the James Bond isle