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Post by Sprite on Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:17 am

Thank you @natik for taking the time to do this when I know you are so busy.

It's nice to have you confirm my thoughts on Natasha and Dasha.

I also liked Natasha and thought she seemed like a smart, successful, independent woman. I thought there were several moments where Max was almost punishing Natasha for being too independent, trying to get her to fit into a more traditional role of woman being subservient to her man. (It seems the rest of them don't really have a problem with that.) IMO that is why her name was called last at several rose ceremonies.

As for Dasha, I agree there also. She doesn't really seem interested in him other than as a prize. That was particularly obvious to me on the 2:1. She seemed bored most of the time and made little effort to engage him and then seemed ticked off that he was paying attention to Anna. IMO she is used to using that sexuality to get her way, but here she is surrounded by other beautiful women who use the same technique. (The only ones who haven't really gone down the seduction route are Alina, Anna and Olya...of course I haven't seen her date yet.)

Be careful out there and take care of yourself.


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Post by Sprite on Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:24 pm

Olya's date with Max is at the Tarzan extreme park where they do some zip lining and chatting in between. There are roses set up along the way for her to collect. It seems that each one is for her different character traits. I caught humour and honesty. I must say it is nice to have a woman who is not screaming her way through this type of adrenaline date and acting all scared. She is just enjoying the experience. There was some kissing along the way, but more pecks than full on make out sessions.

Max and Olya had dinner together. She kept saying it was comfortable. What did they discuss? She gets a rose and another peck.

Back at the mansion the others are debating if Olya will get a rose. I think that the general opinion is that she is more of a pal and isn't very feminine? They also get to learn how to do some Thai traditional dance. Nastya and Dasha didn't seem to appreciate the efforts of the instructor to teach them. Poor sports.

Later the gals gather and there is another date card this time for Bogdana. Aline is not happy. She is the only one who has not had a single date. The others aren't too happy either. Then Olya returns with all her roses and she has to explain them. They weren't very happy that Max was giving her all these complements.


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Post by Sprite on Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:59 pm

Next up is Bogdana's date and according to Max they are "taking it to the next level". Yes, he is once again working on her "fear" of heights by taking her skydiving! She is annoying me. She is so dramatic all the time. She just seems to be putting on an act. What did they discuss while having coffee before getting on the plane?

I just can't deal with her. She is seriously screaming like she is having an orgasm while skydiving. She brings everything back to something sexual and as soon as she lands she devours him. Seriously...too much! Of course, he didn't seem to mind and she gets a rose and eats his face once again for good measure!

Back in preparation for the RC, Max is dressed in traditional male dress and watching his videos from the ladies. The only one I understood was Kristina who wants to spend more time with him.

The ladies all arrive in tradition Thai dress and look lovely. The last to arrive with her rose front and center almost like she is throwing it in all their faces is Bogdana. They are not pleased. She of course brings up sex again. :headbanging We get it. You like sex! Vika is not having any of it and basically accuses Bogdana of using manipulation. thumbsup

When Max arrived the ladies perform the dance they learned. They did very well.

Max pulls Vika for a little chat. I'm assuming to discuss her video. It was pretty quick and seemed to go well. What did they say?

Back to the RC and Max calls Alina. What did she say in her video? He became kind of serious, but she got a rose. Why were some of the others upset?

Kristina is up next. What does he say to her before he opens his arms and gives her a big hug and the rose? The others look shocked at that display of affection.

Olya is next and she quickly gets a rose.

Nastya...they have a quick chat and she get the rose.

Dasha and Anna are left without a rose and you can see the shock on Dasha's face.

Anna gets called and they have a short talk. What did he say to her? I can tell he likes her as a person, but still there isn't that spark, nevertheless, she gets a rose and a big hug!

What is Dasha saying under her breath before Max calls her over? What does he say to her? She is p*ssed! What is she saying in the ITM?It looks like he is walking her out but there are 20 more minutes to go. The others are celebrating, but they are in for a surprise....he is taking her for a dip in the pool where he helps her undress into her undies and they make out. What are they saying while in the pool?

The others are still waiting and begin to wonder where is Max. They hear splashing from the pool and go to investigate. Alina, Nastya and Olya see them and tell the others. (The moaning that was in the preview for this episode of them in the pool was spliced from the orgasmic moaning that Bogdana did while skydiving. Tricky.) What were the ladies saying?

Nastya takes off and is upset. She basically did the same thing with him on her date. What is she saying? Then Vika, Olya and Anna take off. What did they say? Alina, Bogdana and Kristina are left downstairs. What are they saying? Particularly Kristina?

Max and Dasha come back holding hands and wearing robes and she has her rose. Only the three are still there and if looks could kill. What did he say to them?

After he leaves what does Olya say to Dasha and then what does Dasha reply? Something about Dasha isn't sweet at all? All of them walk out on Dasha. This is not a happy group.

What was Olya saying to Vika and Anna? What where the ladies saying in their ITMs?

Dasha is sharing a room with Nastya and I think was saying that it wasn't pleasant having them all against her? Nastya walks out and is wandering down the driveway of the hotel and is at the gate talking to herself.

This is the first time I really don't like Max. I don't think he apologized or even realized how much he upset the others. He seemed pretty cold about it when he left. Frankly, if I had been one of those women, I would have packed my bags and walked out. I will be interested to see how or even if they get past this.


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Post by Idlemess on Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:42 am

Great review @Sprite thanks for the visual on Bogdana’s date. She sounds like she wants to win a prize.

Interesting point about Max. I’m wondering if he’s told to just be this way or if it’s just him. The RC on this project can be brutally emotional for the women especially with everything on display


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Post by Sprite on Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:14 pm

@Idlemess wrote:Great review @Sprite thanks for the visual on Bogdana’s date. She sounds like she wants to win a prize.

Interesting point about Max. I’m wondering if he’s told to just be this way or if it’s just him. The RC on this project can be brutally emotional for the women especially with everything on display

I am going with it's just him. The producers set this up, but how he reacted to the women was all on him. I am kind of surprised because up until now he has been considerate in how he treats them...although I wasn't keen on how he treated Natasha either...so maybe I haven't read him properly. From what @natik has told us in the past, sexism is pretty common in this part of the world, so maybe as he gets more into the role that aspect comes out.


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Post by Agent99 on Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:44 am

@Sprite I agree, I cannot take much more of Bogdana and her OTT mannerisms.  Ugh.  I think I even saw Max zone out at one time, but of course little max is sure there will be action, so he is happy.

In contrast, I don’t think Anna knows how to flirt.  Her head in Max’s lap was so awkward laugh out loud

Honestly, I don’t know what to make of the end scenes with Dasha.  It is clear she is a favourite, because she has had so much time with Max.  Maybe production wanted to throw a spanner in the works because the girls are getting along relatively harmoniously.   When Dasha comes back it knocks a few of the girls’ smug levels down a peg or two.   But it wasn’t a good look for Max to leave them all there waiting without an apology.

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Post by natik on Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:11 am

@Sprite Thanks for your previews! :claphands

Ok a quick note regarding the pool situation. Obviously that whole pool thing was producer driven. They told him to suggest to Dasha the pool session. But his actions and behavior are going all on him. Up until now he was actually a decent lead and the viewers liked him but his behavior turned the majority off of him.
As @Agent99 said it was in fact not a good look to leave the others waiting plus he knew exactly that some of the girls would see what is going on in the pool.
And the major douchebag move was how he in the end blamed it all on Dasha. So he returned after the pool session with Dasha back to the mansion and there was no apology for his behavior or an explanation instead he mumbled something like "Dasha was wishing that and I was fulfilling her wish". BAM! So basically he put it all on Dasha and left and let her alone with that and with the girls who were furious.
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Post by Sprite on Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:31 am

We are at episode #7 and there is a rehash of the pool kissing mess from the last episode. It is all very uncomfortable and odd since they appear to be back in the Ukraine. I don't quite understand why they didn't have this chat back in Thailand after Nastya came back from her wander down to the gate. What were they saying? Dasha annoyed me with her smug grin with those giant lips!

The ladies seemed to have just gotten up and are in their pj's/lingerie when Max arrives dragging a carry on bag, groceries and tulips and pretends that nothing happened. He gives the tulips to Bogdana along with a skirt to make up for the one that she burned in Thailand. I didn't understand why she did that? Eventually he figures out that they are not exactly overjoyed by his presence and he seems to address what happened? What did he tell them and how did they respond?

He takes Alina for a chat. What did they discuss?  Kristina next and she seemed more forgiving and I think he appreciated that.

I think he asked who can cook and Nastya seemed to volunteer and they went to the kitchen to make crepes. She actually seems to know her way around the kitchen. What did they chat about while preparing breakfast? Bogdana comes in like a third wheel and starts butting in. Nastya is not happy. If looks could kill.

Apparently the ladies had to write Max a letter and he starts reading them as they are eating breakfast. What did they write? For whatever reason he picks Bogdana to spend time with later. The rest of them are rolling their eyes.

It is now dark and she is dressed and they are sitting outside. She is doing her usual pretentious acting and naturally bringing up sex. She gives him an X-rated t-shirt which I'm guessing represents them having sex doggie style. She has a matching one. Suspect

Everyone is now all dressed up and the others see the sex t-shirt. She and Max are matchy. The others are less than impressed.

Max takes Vika, Olya and Dasha for a movie date to watch Mr. & Mrs. Smith although they aren't really watching. They are those annoying people in the movie theater that won't shut up. He is sitting between Dasha and Vika and has his arms around their shoulders. Poor Olya is like a third wheel. Awkward. Vika is cuddling up and Dasha is rolling her eyes. Karma Dasha, karma.

Olya and Max go off to talk and she is pissed. What did they talk about? It looks like she told him off because he does not look comfortable. I'm not sure, but it appears that she had enough and decided to go home? He escorts her to the car and she doesn't exactly look heart broken. Can't say I blame her.

The other two are entertaining themselves while waiting. What was Vika saying in her ITM about Dasha? Finally Max comes back and this party is a dud.

I guess the luggage was because he is staying with the ladies. He is in bed and Anna shows up with a book and mens pj's on. What book was she reading to him? Again...awkward. What were they laughing about? Finally, she gives him a peck and gets herself out of there as quick as she can with as much false dignity as she can muster. Embarassed


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Post by Sprite on Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:53 pm

And I'm back. Max and Alina are off on a run. This seems something he does...not so much Alina. I think he said she stopped him after 5 minutes and then they continued walking. What did they discuss...something about her music career? They seem to get along fairly well..joking. I think he likes her femininity and her naivety, but zero chemistry. More like a little sister.

When they return, Vika has a breakfast feast ready. I think she was planning this for her and Max, but now Alina is there as well and we all know two's company and three is a crowd. It's hilarious because Vika is in sexy black lingerie with boobs nicely displayed and the other two are in work out gear and a putting a damper on her seduction plans.

A bit later everyone else shows up. You can tell who is trying to make an impression because they are full on made up and wearing clothes that look like they are going on a date and not like they just got up in the morning...Bogdana, Nastya...nevertheless, they are all laughing at the awkward threesome.

Max is issuing some instructions. First up Dasha and Nastya are going for a drive. Nastya calls shotgun with Max in the front seat. Dasha is Redfacemad and now won't shut up. He takes them to Metro...which seems kind of like Costco...and they are getting groceries. Max looks bored out of his skull. It is clear Dasha has no idea how to shop while Nastya clearly does this regularly. After paying he sends them home in a cab and heads out to his next date.

Alina and Bogdana are at a costume shop and Alina is picking out characters for the ladies. Kristina as an angel, Anna as a nun, Dasha as a cat. Bogdana wants to be a 20's flapper and Alina is all over the place. They also have to get a costume for Max. He comes to pick them up as the other ladies are at home cleaning up the mess they made in the kitchen.

Finally the ladies are all let in on their costumes and some are not thrilled. They laugh at the others costumes, but seem to have no sense of humour when it is their turn...Vika, Dasha, Nastya. Max is killing himself laughing at the cat costume for Dasha. Was there some significance about the costumes? Apparently Bogdana picked a costume for herself and Max from some kind of soap/serial and they match. The others are not thrilled since she picked herself a nice costume. What did they say after Max left? Most of them seemed mad at Bogdana and not nearly as much with Alina?



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Post by Sprite on Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:39 am

The next morning all the food that they bought is on the counter and there is another costume for Dasha. Seems the ladies consider she uses her sexuality so they deliberately got her the least sexy costume, but now bring her a spandex/leather costume. This just all seems stupid to me.

I guess they are cooking for Max. Vika apparently is the one who normally does the cooking and she is barking out orders. Bogdana should just get the hell out of the kitchen. She is useless.

Finally Max arrives to watch all the preparations. Vika is in full housewife mode getting him to test some of the food. Bogdana is not impressed and then apparently trys to tell Vika how to cook and it is not appreciated. Things are getting heated and Max gets to see it all.

Party time. Everyone gets in their costumes and they are all trying to sex them up. Max looks a little disappointed that Dasha isn't wearing the original costume. They all go to eat and Grisha arrives with some guy who works with Max. Then Anna's friend arrives with a painting. I don't know who the lady who arrived for Nastya is, but she was not happy to see her or the crown that she brought. (I'm assuming whatever they bring represents the person?) Alina's mom comes and the others are surprised and in tears. Mom brings a care package with her favourite soup. She also has a gift for Max. What were they saying?

Bogdana is the only lady who has a male arriving. Who is this guy? I think his name is Igor? She thinks Max's reaction is great, but I don't. He brought a gift and she seemed to think it was hilarious when everyone was trying to guess what it was...but, it fell flat with everyone when they figured it out. I had no idea, but knowing how obsessed she is with sex, I guessed it was a vibrator.

Max pulls Dasha and her buddy aside for a chat. He wants to know how they know each other. What did she say about Dasha?

Meanwhile, Max's buddy has been observing the ladies and pulls Anna aside for a chat.

Ok. I will continue later. Time to get some sleep.


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Post by Agent99 on Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:42 pm

What a looong gabfest this episode was.  There was so much I didn’t understand.  I gather that it was the ‘best friends’ episode.  Max’s friend looked very serious about his mission.  Did he call out Anna because of her racy Instagram shots, yet she was dressed as a nun for the party?  Was everybody laughing at Alina because her mother is her best friend?  Mama also seemed to be saying very inappropriate things laugh out loud  

I would love to know what Anna’s parting words were. I just wanted her to shut up and go with dignity, but she kept on talking laugh out loud  I still think Dasha is the only one Max is interested in so far.   At the party, he seemed to be always around her.  Dasha is playing an interesting game - acting all disinterested, yet sexy and mysterious at the same time.

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