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Post by Jeepers Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:38 pm

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pavalygurl wrote:@ariwolf  I hear ya, but "shocking conclusion of her journey" is what has me stumped if the "journey" concludes with her choosing Dotun.

I’m only seeing sleuthing/spoiler forums concluding Dotun is F1. Everywhere else I look there’s so much Joey love that I’m wondering if it’s actually the opposite. General viewers will be “shocked” if she doesn’t pick Joey as F1. JMO

And that very well could be considering which part of the audience one is in
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Post by ariwolf Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:41 pm

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i don't agree with that at all based on how all of the other pro-joey assumptions are treated on here. but that's jmo.

Ok .. which Joey assumptions are you referring to

charity following joey's sister and john mayer are the main ones that are pointed to over and over as clues in his favor, but it's also an assumption for what charity's reasons were. "why would she do that if he's not f1", is not provable.
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Post by jojo47 Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:44 pm

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pavalygurl wrote:@ariwolf  I hear ya, but "shocking conclusion of her journey" is what has me stumped if the "journey" concludes with her choosing Dotun.

I’m only seeing sleuthing/spoiler forums concluding Dotun is F1. Everywhere else I look there’s so much Joey love that I’m wondering if it’s actually the opposite. General viewers will be “shocked” if she doesn’t pick Joey as F1. JMO

And that very well could be considering which part of the audience one is in

Not exactly sure what you mean, but I think the sleuthing audience is a fraction of the general viewing audience. IMO the show has been edited so the general viewer will think she’s picking Joey & then be “shocked” when she doesn’t. Again, all JMO.


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Post by Jeepers Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:44 pm

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i don't agree with that at all based on how all of the other pro-joey assumptions are treated on here. but that's jmo.

Ok .. which Joey assumptions are you referring to

charity following joey's sister and john mayer are the main ones that are pointed to over and over as clues in his favor, but it's also an assumption for what charity's reasons were. "why would she do that if he's not f1", is not provable.

Very true about Joeys sister .. and the finale may make it make sense .. or not
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Post by Jeepers Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:49 pm

jojo47 wrote:
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pavalygurl wrote:@ariwolf  I hear ya, but "shocking conclusion of her journey" is what has me stumped if the "journey" concludes with her choosing Dotun.

I’m only seeing sleuthing/spoiler forums concluding Dotun is F1. Everywhere else I look there’s so much Joey love that I’m wondering if it’s actually the opposite. General viewers will be “shocked” if she doesn’t pick Joey as F1. JMO

And that very well could be considering which part of the audience one is in

Not exactly sure what you mean, but I think the sleuthing audience is a fraction of the general viewing audience. IMO the show has been edited so the general viewer will think she’s picking Joey & then be “shocked” when she doesn’t. Again, all JMO.

The difference between the audiences .. between sleuthers and plain ole tv watchers .. which there are many many more of .. also choose their favorites .. not just us folks
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Post by ariwolf Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:52 pm

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ariwolf wrote:
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i don't agree with that at all based on how all of the other pro-joey assumptions are treated on here. but that's jmo.

Ok .. which Joey assumptions are you referring to

charity following joey's sister and john mayer are the main ones that are pointed to over and over as clues in his favor, but it's also an assumption for what charity's reasons were. "why would she do that if he's not f1", is not provable.

Very true about Joeys sister .. and the finale may make it make sense .. or not

like i've said, i'm happy to be proven wrong. i still thought zach picked gabriella even after rs put out his spoiler and that was obviously wrong. i just think the joey bias on here is just as bad as some claim the dotun bias on reddit is.

i hope next season in general there's more balanced sleuthing and less smug, mocking gifs towards people who have a different opinion.
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Post by pavalygurl Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:57 pm

@jojo47  I have had a different experience.  Mostly I am talking about Reddit where the vast majority seem to firmly believe Dotun is F1.  I see many unsubstantiated and IMHO non-sleuthing reasons or no reason at all for why they believe it.  Few folks there think Joey has any chance at being F1 and many dislike him to the point they do not want him as bachelor either.

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Post by pavalygurl Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:02 am

@ariwolf  I have thought that both guys were good guys and Charity would and either of them would be happy to have found each other.  Yes, there are some others on this board who have voiced similar opinions.  
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Post by jojo47 Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:12 am

pavalygurl wrote:@jojo47  I have had a different experience.  Mostly I am talking about Reddit where the vast majority seem to firmly believe Dotun is F1.  I see many unsubstantiated and IMHO non-sleuthing reasons or no reason at all for why they believe it.  Few folks there think Joey has any chance at being F1 and many dislike him to the point they do not want him as bachelor either.

@pavalygurl I don’t read Reddit but have heard most over there (that follow spoilers) believe Dotun is F1. However, I don’t view Reddit as general viewers who just watch the show. I see it more as a sleuthing/spoiler site. But I could be wrong on my view of that forum. There’s a lot of love for Joey outside of Reddit, for both F1 & next Bach if he’s not F1.
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Post by pavalygurl Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:24 am

@jojo47 Thanks for the info...happy to hear Joey's got a lot of love.   hi

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Post by honeydiors Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:59 am

@ariwolf I genuinely don't think there is a lot of Joey bias anywhere, i just think the minority is loud, the difference between here and reddit is that people on here are open to hearing different points of views, besides that majority of sleuthers and public who believe Dotun is F1

@jojo47 I see the 'love' for Joey being pushed as the next Bachelor rather than F1 across all platforms more often than the minority who believe he is F1
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Post by Razor09 Fri Aug 18, 2023 4:53 am

jojo47 wrote:
Jeepers wrote:
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pavalygurl wrote:@ariwolf  I hear ya, but "shocking conclusion of her journey" is what has me stumped if the "journey" concludes with her choosing Dotun.

I’m only seeing sleuthing/spoiler forums concluding Dotun is F1. Everywhere else I look there’s so much Joey love that I’m wondering if it’s actually the opposite. General viewers will be “shocked” if she doesn’t pick Joey as F1. JMO

And that very well could be considering which part of the audience one is in

Not exactly sure what you mean, but I think the sleuthing audience is a fraction of the general viewing audience. IMO the show has been edited so the general viewer will think she’s picking Joey & then be “shocked” when she doesn’t. Again, all JMO.

Nah, the general audience absolutely think she’s picking Dotun (Facebook,IG, Reddit, etc.). There’s an expectation that he’s the obvious choice, and we can clearly see that from the editing. JMO

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