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Bachelorette 14 - Becca Kufrin - Episode 4 - June 18th - Sleuthing Spoilers

Want to post here what Sharleen wrote about the show:

Sharleen wrote:Sharleen Joynt on Episode 4 of The Bachelorette

What Jean Blanc did to Becca last night was not only excruciating to watch, it was a downright chitty thing to do to her of all people. A woman whose Bachelorette crowning and entire television storyline has revolved around being deceived by the man she loved? And you tell her you’re “falling in love” with her just because it’s what you think she wants to hear?? And then, instead of exiting quietly, you ADMIT that to her, fuelling her insecurity about the other guys’ sincerity??? Dude. That is some terrible judgment and major short-sightedness.

What’s incredible is that every step of the way, Jean thought he was being savvy, like he could play his appearance on this show like a game of chess. At the start of the episode, he received a Rose Ceremony rose and, while happy to have it, he bemoaned it being the last rose of the night. Now, not only does that solidify my long-held stance that there is rhyme and reason to that rose order, it also was the beginning of him analyzing and breaking apart his ranking in what I’m pretty sure he saw as a race. He referred to Becca as “his woman” (to John, who was thankfully above making a stink out of that) after having spent maybe a total of half an hour (maybe 40 minutes, if I’m generous) collectively with her. In an ITM he declared, “You’re only as good as your last rose,” yet failed to mention at any point what it is about Becca that had him interested in her, much less “falling in love” with her.

As terrible as what he did was, I found myself fascinated by this series of unfortunate decisions on his part. It occurred to me that it is remarkable that we’ve never seen a misstep like this before. Let’s be honest (or as honest as Jean Blanc was dishonest): It is sadly impossible that there aren’t a few, if not several Jean Blancs in any given Bachelor/ette cast. The odds of every contestant who’s ever claimed to be “falling” (or “on track” to falling, or having full-blown “fallen in love”—I’ve documented my beef with these arbitrary terms) having been 100% sincere is slim. I’m thinking maybe three-quarters of them, at best. And I’m accounting for the Bachelor bubble, in which contestants often naturally develop a starry-eyed infatuation with their lead.

An inherent problem with this show is that you can’t put a girl—no matter how hot and dynamic and compelling—in a room with 25 men and expect all 25 of them to want to spend the rest of their lives with her. There are so many factors at play: compatibility, timing, the guys’ genuine readiness to settle down, just to name a view. And that’s only inherent problem number one!

Number two is something I’ve been harping about for years, dating way back to when I first started recapping. It involved watching Nick on Andi’s season and observing how he, a man who genuinely felt he was in the right and hadn’t done anything wrong, was at the mercy of his communal girlfriend. She said to him, “All I can do is go on your word. When you say you’re gonna do better, I guess I gotta wait for you to do better.” Think about it: that sentence wouldn’t sound out of place in a pre-breakup ultimatum conversation where the guy had a terrible vice or history of bad behaviour. But this wasn’t a couple trying to reconcile when the man wouldn’t quit drinking or cheating; it was merely a new couple’s disagreement, a matter of subjectivity, between two “equal” partners. It wasn’t until Nick finally gave in, telling Andi she was right and he was wrong, that they were able to move forward in their relationship. This little exchange really sums up the issue, which is that Nick (and every contestant for that matter) is doing all the proving, all the conceding, all the submitting, all the time. The structure of this show, with one person holding all the power and everyone else being at her (or his) mercy, leaves such a power imbalance that it’s impossible for the contestants to be either completely themselves or completely autonomous.

Finally, inherent problem number three is the very factor that allows this show to continue to cast relatively desirable and high-calibre (I know this is debatable but you get my drift) candidates. With this show’s consistent and (somehow) ever-expanding relevance and notoriety, appearing on this show now comes with real-life perks—far beyond 15 minutes of fame—that even a couple of years ago none of us could have imagined. It only makes sense that most, if not all of those high-calibre candidates are there for those perks first, and AT BEST, “finding love” a distant second. In other words, the factors that give the casting department the pick of the contestant litter are the very factors that not only enable, but encourage #wrongreasons motives.

I’m not saying anything can be done about any of these issues. These are and forever will be ingrained in this show. But as awful as what Jean did was, it shone a light directly on them, and for the critical viewer watching a social experiment, it was good food for thought.

http://www.flare.com/bachelor/the-bachelorette-season-14-episode-4-recap/

Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - MTA - July 31 - Sleuthing Spoilers Discussion

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tinobordy
Some Men, Tell All; others, don't say much. If flying out to see your friends is wrong, then I may have been there for the #wrongreasons. Nevertheless, if I wasn't there, who would make sure to fix @deanie_babiess@deanie_babies's bow tie? #thebachelorette #mentellall #whatarefriendsfor #didwematchonpurposeorbyaccident?
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Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - All Blogs - Sleuthing Spoilers

happygolucky wrote:
ElonM wrote:Love what Sharleen said here about Nick.

It honestly amazes me how many people still don't take to Nick. I've heard that people think he seems insincere and disinterested, and I can see how one could jump to that conclusion because, as I've said before, Nick does have a tendency to come off guarded and borderline stoic. But truthfully I see those very traits as evidence of just how NOT performer-y he is and if anything, it makes him more sincere in my eyes. (I admittedly have an instant-suspicion for anyone who seems too "on", as on-ness in this franchise can very often mean fake, and fake can very often mean calculated. #WRONGREASONS) Nick is and was never not fully engaged with his final 6 or so women—yes, he probably wasn't 100% focused on all of this season's women, but how many Bachelors are?—and has seemed pretty authentically emotional about sending each one home.
http://www.alltheprettypandas.com/bachelor21/episode10

What drew me in on the "day 1 - featuring Nick". I see him being real as he can be. I see him being authentic self, to the point of wishing he wouldn't always be ... but then again I'm grateful he is and is allowing "me" to watch/observe and make my own conclusions. It's his sincerity, and being open to criticism, that I see as his great strength. For that, I continue to support him.

Maybe that is why I like him so much, too! Whatever the reason, I love the guy! Well said @happygolucky and thank you!

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - All Blogs - Sleuthing Spoilers

ElonM wrote:Love what Sharleen said here about Nick.

It honestly amazes me how many people still don't take to Nick. I've heard that people think he seems insincere and disinterested, and I can see how one could jump to that conclusion because, as I've said before, Nick does have a tendency to come off guarded and borderline stoic. But truthfully I see those very traits as evidence of just how NOT performer-y he is and if anything, it makes him more sincere in my eyes. (I admittedly have an instant-suspicion for anyone who seems too "on", as on-ness in this franchise can very often mean fake, and fake can very often mean calculated. #WRONGREASONS) Nick is and was never not fully engaged with his final 6 or so women—yes, he probably wasn't 100% focused on all of this season's women, but how many Bachelors are?—and has seemed pretty authentically emotional about sending each one home.
http://www.alltheprettypandas.com/bachelor21/episode10

That's why I like Nick. To me, he has always been sincere and is authentic and real -- as real as I will ever get to see someone be on a show that is anything but real.

jmo

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - All Blogs - Sleuthing Spoilers

ElonM wrote:Love what Sharleen said here about Nick.

It honestly amazes me how many people still don't take to Nick. I've heard that people think he seems insincere and disinterested, and I can see how one could jump to that conclusion because, as I've said before, Nick does have a tendency to come off guarded and borderline stoic. But truthfully I see those very traits as evidence of just how NOT performer-y he is and if anything, it makes him more sincere in my eyes. (I admittedly have an instant-suspicion for anyone who seems too "on", as on-ness in this franchise can very often mean fake, and fake can very often mean calculated. #WRONGREASONS) Nick is and was never not fully engaged with his final 6 or so women—yes, he probably wasn't 100% focused on all of this season's women, but how many Bachelors are?—and has seemed pretty authentically emotional about sending each one home.
http://www.alltheprettypandas.com/bachelor21/episode10

What drew me in on the "day 1 - featuring Nick". I see him being real as he can be. I see him being authentic self, to the point of wishing he wouldn't always be ... but then again I'm grateful he is and is allowing "me" to watch/observe and make my own conclusions. It's his sincerity, and being open to criticism, that I see as his great strength. For that, I continue to support him.

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - All Blogs - Sleuthing Spoilers

Love what Sharleen said here about Nick.

It honestly amazes me how many people still don't take to Nick. I've heard that people think he seems insincere and disinterested, and I can see how one could jump to that conclusion because, as I've said before, Nick does have a tendency to come off guarded and borderline stoic. But truthfully I see those very traits as evidence of just how NOT performer-y he is and if anything, it makes him more sincere in my eyes. (I admittedly have an instant-suspicion for anyone who seems too "on", as on-ness in this franchise can very often mean fake, and fake can very often mean calculated. #WRONGREASONS) Nick is and was never not fully engaged with his final 6 or so women—yes, he probably wasn't 100% focused on all of this season's women, but how many Bachelors are?—and has seemed pretty authentically emotional about sending each one home.
http://www.alltheprettypandas.com/bachelor21/episode10

Amanda Stanton - BIP - Season 3 - Sleuthing - Spoilers

^^ The hypocrisy and faux outrage of it all... Clutching their pearls that someone isn't "100%" into someone or there for the #rightreasons. Meanwhile Amanda's defending a guy who's actually going to get engaged to someone for all the #wrongreasons.

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #5

Ash2214 wrote:^ How so? The article is dated 3/11/16, which is the weekend he supposedly officially agreed to do the show. Since they did the interview/ article on or right before the 11th, which was on the weekend, the production crew that visited him "last week" could have been just a couple of days prior. Do you know if he signed his contract already when they visited him? For all we know, production showed up to film him in case he did agree to it and tried to convince him to do it. IMO.

That's exactly what I thought as well. As for Caila's hometown filming before announcing JoJo, CMIIW but didn't another contender for Bach who wasn't the Bach in the end also hav his hometown filmed? and to GA's point. I also assumed Jordan's decision to not do the show if the Ette was Caila as well as the fans' preference that it not be her, helped TPTB determine who the next Ette would be.

stuckinsc wrote:
Dessler wrote:NOONE but Jojo gets to decide if this season is a fairytale or not ...IMO. It is her "love story" not ours

I don't particularly want her to have a fairytale. I got that with Meredith and her prince frogged out on her. Fairytale end at just getting together. I hope for JoJo she has a real life love that is stronger for the lack of perfection of the two people in it. But then again my favorite Disney movie is 101 Dalmations. I was never the girl who desired Prince Charming and his castle. JMO.

The bolded is what I already see with Jordan and JoJo's interactions and why I see real love developing. It might also be part of the problem with some people believing he really doesn't love Jo. #wrongreasons. Despite their immediate attraction/connection, he was hesitant at first as he would be at a real life pace. To me, when he starts to fall for her in the amped up BachBubble, is equivalent to real life pace for many. And if I am JoJo, I would more leery of the guys who are all in without hardly even knowing her.

As for JoJo, it is also normal, especially at the beginning, for her to wonder if Jordan really does like her as much as she likes him. Especially bc of their great connection on night 1. Many of us question whether someone likes us as much as we do them when we first like someone a lot. So I think their pace was as on track to real life as can be expected in The Bubble. JMOAA

The lack of perfection, for him especially, is playing out right now. We'll see if they'll be able to hold up under this pressure. I think they will.