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Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - Spoilers - Sleuthing - Discussion #7

[mention]OnePromise[/mention] wrote:
BTW, I thought that since Nick was not the next Bachelor, everyone would stop talking about him. Don't get me wrong, I love to discuss Nick, but it seems like the hype surrounding him doesn't fade away too easily... Even among those who are not fans of Nick.

I don't really understand that...Josh hasn't been on TV for 1.25 years and there's a thread {#}8{/#} on him. We're only on {#}7{/#} for Nick and he was JUST on TV. I just think it's a weird way to measure the importance of someone. When a character does something "controversial", conversation will ensue. That's why the threads for people that have gone back to their normal life have also disappeared, even though the guys themselves were super popular, like Roberto, Arie, Ben Z, etc. The ones that keep doing things worthy of critique will have happenin' threads. Has little to do with the popularity of the contestant, IMHO.

The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Filming Schedule - Sleuthing - Spoilers

With bits of info that I've been given, I'm thinking the filming schedule is pretty close to this one, if not exactly the same as far as the starting date. Thanks to AL for putting CS's schedule together for us.

Aunties_Love wrote:Here's a filming schedule as I have it figured out right now.

Epi 1 25 to 18
9/25 Meet/Greet

Epi 2 18 to 16
9/27 ID1
9/28 Group Date: Tractor Race(Tweets)
9/29 ID2
9/30 RC 2

Epi 3 16 to 14
10/1 ID
10/2 GD Costco in Van Nuys
10/3 ID Malibu filming Tweet
10/4 RC 3

Epi 4 14 to 12
10/5 ID
10/6 GD at Lake Piru
10/7 ID
10/8 RC #4

10/9 travel to New Mexico

Epi 5 12 to 9
10/10 ID
10/11 GD - Albuquerque balloon races
10/12 ID
10/13 RC #5

10/14 travel to South Dakota

Epi 6 9 to 6
10/15 off
10/16 ID
10/17 ID
10/19 GD 6 women at Stocks Corral then 1 to concert date Big & Rich (Brit had the concert)
10/20 RC #6
an individual date happened at the Black Hills, just don't know what day yet

10/21-22 travel to Iowa
10/23 Filming "B" roll of Iowa

Epi 7 6 to 4 Chris in Des Moines on 10/23 filmed doing "b" film and walkabouts
10/24 ID filming at football game - Jade
10/25 ID filming at street in Des Moines at River Walk, Roca restaurant, Tonic Bar with Whitney
10/26 ID filming at pedestrian bridge over river.....asian building background. West End Architectural Salvage - a long haired blond
10/27 GD Continental, Kitchen Collage, and also at the lofts where Chris was staying GDR handed out
10/28 RC #7

Epi 8 HTD
10/29 Travel to Louissiana
10/30 HTD1 Becca in Shreveport, Louisiana Becca's Birthday
10/31 travel
11/1 HTD2 Kaitlyn Bristowe in Arizona
11/2 travel
11/3 HTD3 Jade in Gering, Nebraska
11/4 travel
11/5 HTD4 Whitney in Chicago
11/6 HTD RC Chris's birthday.......HTD Rc in Iowa....according to a tweet
Jade eliminated as per social media activity

Epi 9 FD
11/7 - 9 Travel days to Bali pics posted on IG resort found to be the Plataran Hotels and Resort in Canggu Bali by julychild
11/10 FD1
11/11 day off
11/12 FD2
11/13 day off
11/14 FD3
11/15 RC
RS says that Kaitlyn is eliminated

Epi 10 LCD/MTP
11/16-17 travelling
11/18 mtp1
11/19 mtp2
11/20 LCD1 Whitney
11/21 LCD2 Strawberry Point Becca
11/22-23 FRC

Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - Spoilers - Sleuthing - Discussion #7

Beagle wrote:
isittrue wrote:I don't find it any different than other past contestant threads. Nick is either loved, hated or people are indifferent towards him. The ones who hate him, will post their dislike. The ones who love him will defend him relentlessly and the ones who are indifferent will just stay neutral. This board is all about differing opinions and that's why we have both discussion and fan threads. JMHO.

I disagree with the bolded. Nick's discussion thread is already at #7, and that's even after being locked a few times, if not it would be at #8. Plus this is just from Kaitlyn' season. It was this long on Andi's too. It is just not the same as any other contestant when it comes to Nick IMO.

IMO, Nick has been one of the most controversial and polarizing figures to appear on this franchise and the fact that he has done it 2 consecutive seasons, finished in the final 2 (with controversy as well) the last 2 seasons and has not exactly disappeared into private life completely following the show is why he garners so much discussion. Wait until Ben's season, I am sure it may die down here and someone else will be the hot topic. Could be Ben or a controversial contestant on his season that is the hot topic.

I enjoy hearing different views as the world would be a boring place if we all agreed on everything. jmho

Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - Spoilers - Sleuthing - Discussion #7

isittrue wrote:I don't find it any different than other past contestant threads. Nick is either loved, hated or people are indifferent towards him. The ones who hate him, will post their dislike. The ones who love him will defend him relentlessly and the ones who are indifferent will just stay neutral. This board is all about differing opinions and that's why we have both discussion and fan threads. JMHO.

I disagree with the bolded. Nick's discussion thread is already at #7, and that's even after being locked a few times, if not it would be at #8. Plus this is just from Kaitlyn' season. It was this long on Andi's too. It is just not the same as any other contestant when it comes to Nick IMO.

Kaitlyn Bristowe - Shawn Booth - Fan Forum - General Discussion

If you don't mind, I am going to post a few of my fave from that list minus the picture, don't know how to.

#2. He was there for Kaitlyn from day one, so he’s clearly committed to her.
Unlike Nick, who just showed up out of freaking nowhere.

#5. Kaitlyn already told Shawn she thinks he’s “THE ONE” so she might as well hand the final rose over already.
So what if it happened off camera?! It still counts.

#6. Shawn’s family absolutely loved meeting Kaitlyn and treated her like she was already a part of the family.
Nick’s family was far more hesitant at first. (I wish I can bring this picture, the body language is off the chart)

#7. When Kaitlyn and Shawn kissed by the fireside it was like rainbows and butterflies. There’s never been a truer embrace on the show.
SO MUCH PASSION.(this picture is worth a 1,000 words)

#12. He’s not afraid to be spontaneous, daring, and NAKED.
THIS IS HUSBAND MATERIAL.

#19. He gives the best hugs with his giant, muscular arms. Kaitlyn should definitely hold on ‘til death do them part.
Good luck beating that hug, Nick.

Come on Kabooteam, let's make it alive here, it is brutal in the general forum.

The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - # 3 Sleuthing - Spoilers - Discussion

mindless wrote:Yes, presented as the one viewers will fall in love with.

Always a great endorsement for possible next TB.
He could be our #7. Nick was in San Antonio and then Ireland. Ben Z started following Nick on Twitter & IG after which Nick followed him. They had to have had enough time to get to know each other so IMO they were both in Ireland long enough to do that. Or at least that would make sense.

The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - # 3 Sleuthing - Spoilers - Discussion

Sorry for quoting myself, bringing this over from Chris's thread.

I think right now the majority are thinking, in no specific order:

Nick
Shawn
Ben
Jared
Joe
Chris

Who is #7??

RS inviting others to tell him of their findings is luring in order for him to have more options on the possible finale. He threw in that everyone will be wrong, as an added sales tactic to increase his clicks. He probably had Chris as the F1 until the pics of him were uncovered and posted here as of April 19th.

notarose wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:Ben IMO is right in there F1/F2 as a strong possibility.

There has been more to suggest Ben made it further than Chris. Ex: HTD film crew spoilers. Not proof but at least Ben has buzz around him.

Due to the great sleuthing here, I believe Chris was eliminated around the time he was cleaning up his IG which is the 2nd week in Ireland before the mystery week. Still a bachelor possibility as posted in another thread JPG and JakeP were both F7.

Hmm I have another thought. I'll continue in the sleuthing thread.

The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Filming Schedule - Sleuthing - Spoilers

emusha wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
notarose wrote:A date could have occurred on April 10 simply by leaving Killarney in the early morn and started the date around noon.
Remembering that Britt's 1-1 in the hot air balloon started before dawn but seemed to end sometime in the aft. No evening portion. A similar format may have occurred on the 10th whereby it didn't include the morning or was some portion of the day.

FWIW, Travelling to Killarney happened mid day on the 11th per travelling tweets, etc. They arrived in Killarney close to dinner time I believe therefore, don't think how there could be a date that night. Therefore, I believe the dates started on the 12th.

ETA:

Here is the post to tell us about the tweeting and traveling.

MiniDiva on Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:46 am
Elan is tweeting about listening to music(?) for the past 3 hours, so that could be a hint that they have been in travel mode. He is able to tweet again so they could be at their new destination or airport changing plans. Just speculating.

Though Elan's tweet is a clue I don't think it's definitive that it means they were all traveling for that long - flights would be only 55mins and $88 dollars to Kerry co from dublin and since there are other production ppl and crew -- is elan required to be at every single filming? they could have shipped off select crew and just the guy with a 1-1 on planes and everyone or just the crew follow on the road. adam was in LA before everyone else and there are ppl that went to kerry co a few days before for "scouting"

ETA: bringing this over from the other thread

good logic and great work!
I do think it's worth noting that travel from dublin to kerry co is only 3.5 driving and 55min/1hr flying and it's super cheap at 88$ per person which means they could have traveled in the morning and started filming in the afternoon - maybe even held a ID on 11th making it 3 ID by april 14. Typically at this point international travel has the potential to take longer than a 1 hr flight so the short distance gives more leeway

Epi 7 Kerry wk 2 Stayed at: Stayed at:http://www.randlescourt.com/ Shawn B, Nick, Jared, Ben H, Joe, Chris = 6
apr 10/11: Travel - from Dublin to Killarney = 3.5 hrs by car/55min flight (+ Date later in the day?)
apr 12: date
apr 13: date
apr 14: date (could be possible there was an early elimination keeping ID date short?) / possible RC 7 at night/early evening + same day travel to give enough time for HTDs and travel errors (I think last year's flight cancellations could have messed up the filming schedule and so they could build in time for the longer cross-continental flights this season - do we know if they did something like this for TB?)

there were points made about the bette only doing 2 ID and 1 GD as well making april 14 fully a travel date --
also they might have 2 ID and 1 GD (several possibilities to make it possible. a couple: more people than anticipated leaving during/before RC 6 or prior to RC 7).

Epi 7 Kerry wk 2 Stayed at: Stayed at:http://www.randlescourt.com/ Shawn B, Nick, Jared, Ben H, Joe, Chris = 6
apr 10/11: Travel - from Dublin to Killarney = 3.5 hrs by car/55min flight (+ Date later in the day?)
apr 12: date
apr 13: date
apr 14: travel

just throwing out diff scenarios that might possibly make sense as well

I really thought that they drove. I understand that there is a train of thought that there were only 2 individual dates and a group date, but that is far from normal for this epi. Andi's season was the only one since Jillian's season where that happened. All the others had 3 individual dates and a group date. In the above scenario there you only have 2 dates. In County Kerry there will be 3 individual dates and a group date as per other bachette seasons.

apr 12, 13, 14, 15 there will be dates. There is an option for a daytime date on the 15th and RC that night, but IMO with the past seasons epi 7 filming schedules

Ashley:

Epi 7
apr 13 travel to Taroka, Taiwan
apr 14 ID
apr 15 ID
apr 16 ID
apr 17 GD
apr 18 RC #7

Emily:

7th episode - Czech Republic; Aria Hotel (6 down to 4):
4/11: Travel
4/12: Travel
4/13: 1-on-1 Date - Charles Bridge, lunch at Kavárna Modrý Orel / Night portion on the Vltava river (Arie Luyendyk, Jr.)
4/14: 1-on-1 Date - Painted on The Lennon Wall of Love (John Wolfner)
4/15: Group Date - Krivoklát Castle (Chris Bukowski, Doug Clerget, Sean Lowe)
4/16: 1-on-1 Date - Marionette shop, Strahov Monastery (Jef Holm); Rose Ceremony
Eliminated: Doug Clerget & John Wolfner

Des:

7th Episode: (6 down to 4) - Portugal
4/11: Travel
4/12: Travel
4/13: 1-1 Date
4/14: 1-1 Date
4/15: Group date
4/16: 1-1 Date and Rose ceremony #7

So, if we look at it as the past seasons where there are 3 individual dates and a group date with the last individual date happening on the same date as the rc, then we could look at it this way:

4/10/11 day off and travel day
4/12 date
4/13 date
4/14 date
4/15 date and RC #7
4/16 is possible RC date instead.

Bachelor 19 - Becca Tilley #5

[mention]see2love[/mention] wrote:

Another thing I noticed with the Preview is that Becca was always hidden whenever she was with Chris, either her hair covering her face, her backed turned, sunset shadows, we only know it is Becca because we have watched the episodes play out. It is the opposite for W, her face shown kissing or hugging Chris in the previews. The made sure to hide Becca in the early episodes, showed us their connections in the last few episodes, and now showing us doubts in their relationship.
She is as F1 as they come!
I am happily riding this Becca train with Y'all, Mura especially ( we were on opposite trains in JPG season which was no fun!, you are a formidable opponent. )

ha!! thanks.!!

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and building a good conspiracy theory is what i love the most about this show and this board

. The wuv story itself rank {#}7{/#} in my book. Lets be honest, 4 successful couples out of 29 seasons is a terrible record for so called romance TV show

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so yeah.. why not.. keep the fun going!. btw i learned the hard way by JPG and Meandi's season: always rely on the preview. (oddly enough, those 2 seasons were also when the final couples went Splitsville

Topics tagged under 7 on bachandbachettefans.net - Page 8 2498057887

) Unless they throw out the preview pattern out of the window this season, i am optimist we are on the right train

im excited to see everyone's take. may compile and bring over the nuggets to F1 thread later. Keep the

going !!

Bachelor 19 - Becca Tilly #4

[mention]hmbach[/mention] wrote:
[mention]concerned36[/mention] wrote:This is from ok http://okmagazine.com/photos/the-bachelor-fantasy-suite-secrets-chris-soules/photo/1001215627/

Pic {#}7{/#} - But although things went well performance wise for Chris, the final three contestants had a difficult time with him sleeping with one of the ladies. A source told InTouch that Whitney “especially was insecure about her relationship with Chris. It was eating her up inside to know he was developing feelings for other girls.”

Probably again, totally not true, but just more decoys. FWIW...

that would seem to support the idea that she (Whitney) has doubts at the FRC and is starting to question her confidence about moving, really being into the whole thing. She even says at the temple that if he likes Becca how can he like her? (or something to that effect, can't recall the exact quote).

Bachelor 19 - Becca Tilly #4

concerned36 wrote:This is from ok http://okmagazine.com/photos/the-bachelor-fantasy-suite-secrets-chris-soules/photo/1001215627/

Pic #7 - But although things went well performance wise for Chris, the final three contestants had a difficult time with him sleeping with one of the ladies. A source told InTouch that Whitney “especially was insecure about her relationship with Chris. It was eating her up inside to know he was developing feelings for other girls.”

Probably again, totally not true, but just more decoys. FWIW...

that would seem to support the idea that she (Whitney) has doubts at the FRC and is starting to question her confidence about moving, really being into the whole thing. She even says at the temple that if he likes Becca how can he like her? (or something to that effect, can't recall the exact quote).

Bachelor 19 - Becca Tilly #4

This is from ok http://okmagazine.com/photos/the-bachelor-fantasy-suite-secrets-chris-soules/photo/1001215627/

Pic {#}7{/#} - But although things went well performance wise for Chris, the final three contestants had a difficult time with him sleeping with one of the ladies. A source told InTouch that Whitney “especially was insecure about her relationship with Chris. It was eating her up inside to know he was developing feelings for other girls.”

Probably again, totally not true, but just more decoys. FWIW...