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Post by Rolly Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:09 pm

MMA50 wrote:
eirekay wrote:
MMA50 wrote:Gosh, I am just loving all the comments on this piece of wanna-be-famous act. I smell TV endorsements, E! Reporter (Ali comes to mind), DWTS, Host of Bachelor Pad, Bachelor/'rette shows, cover sho0ts, porn princess..etc. etc. She won't need the ADA job when she gets done deceiving the guys on the 'rette show. We will see!

Bet2Win wrote:Whoa, the comments are harsh!

 clapping! Exactly what I was going to say!

I apologize for being so harsh.  It is how I feel because I have two sons, that I would never want to witness going thru what JP was put through.  He was thrown under the bus, and ran over so many times, that all that is left of him now, is the thread of his being.  So unfair!

Now, please remind me to never, never give my blessings to my sons to do such a show.  Wow, Zach Waddell dodged a bullet!  After all, no one will be good enough for Andi.  So, another upcoming wasted show, time, and money spent.


MMA50...ITA...JP was thrown under the bus and the bus went forward and back forward and back numerous time before it tore off and left him in the dust. TPTB suck....I don't know how else to put it. hmmm 
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Post by MMA50 Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:14 am

Bet2Win wrote:
MMA50 wrote:
Bet2Win wrote:
MMA50 wrote:
eirekay wrote:
MMA50 wrote:Gosh, I am just loving all the comments on this piece of wanna-be-famous act. I smell TV endorsements, E! Reporter (Ali comes to mind), DWTS, Host of Bachelor Pad, Bachelor/'rette shows, cover sho0ts, porn princess..etc. etc. She won't need the ADA job when she gets done deceiving the guys on the 'rette show. We will see!

Bet2Win wrote:Whoa, the comments are harsh!

 clapping! Exactly what I was going to say!

I apologize for being so harsh.  It is how I feel because I have two sons, that I would never want to witness going thru what JP was put through.  He was thrown under the bus, and ran over so many times, that all that is left of him now, is the thread of his being.  So unfair!

Now, please remind me to never, never give my blessings to my sons to do such a show.  Wow, Zach Waddell dodged a bullet!  After all, no one will be good enough for Andi.  So, another upcoming wasted show, time, and money spent.


I didn't mean your comments!  I meant the comments under the article posted  ... they were harsh.  Your's weren't.  

Ok, I feel a little better now! Hahaha....


I'm so sorry you thought I was directing that at your comments, because I agree with you.  

Lol! We'are all good now. Don't worry. Pinkie crossed. Take care.
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Post by MMA50 Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:16 am

Rolly wrote:
MMA50 wrote:
eirekay wrote:
MMA50 wrote:Gosh, I am just loving all the comments on this piece of wanna-be-famous act. I smell TV endorsements, E! Reporter (Ali comes to mind), DWTS, Host of Bachelor Pad, Bachelor/'rette shows, cover sho0ts, porn princess..etc. etc. She won't need the ADA job when she gets done deceiving the guys on the 'rette show. We will see!

Bet2Win wrote:Whoa, the comments are harsh!

 clapping! Exactly what I was going to say!

I apologize for being so harsh.  It is how I feel because I have two sons, that I would never want to witness going thru what JP was put through.  He was thrown under the bus, and ran over so many times, that all that is left of him now, is the thread of his being.  So unfair!

Now, please remind me to never, never give my blessings to my sons to do such a show.  Wow, Zach Waddell dodged a bullet!  After all, no one will be good enough for Andi.  So, another upcoming wasted show, time, and money spent.


MMA50...ITA...JP was thrown under the bus and the bus went forward and back forward and back numerous time before it tore off and left him in the dust. TPTB suck....I don't know how else to put it. hmmm 

Oh I agree!
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Post by George1218 Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:45 pm

Rolly wrote:
MMA50 wrote:
eirekay wrote:
MMA50 wrote:Gosh, I am just loving all the comments on this piece of wanna-be-famous act. I smell TV endorsements, E! Reporter (Ali comes to mind), DWTS, Host of Bachelor Pad, Bachelor/'rette shows, cover sho0ts, porn princess..etc. etc. She won't need the ADA job when she gets done deceiving the guys on the 'rette show. We will see!

Bet2Win wrote:Whoa, the comments are harsh!

 clapping! Exactly what I was going to say!

I apologize for being so harsh.  It is how I feel because I have two sons, that I would never want to witness going thru what JP was put through.  He was thrown under the bus, and ran over so many times, that all that is left of him now, is the thread of his being.  So unfair!

Now, please remind me to never, never give my blessings to my sons to do such a show.  Wow, Zach Waddell dodged a bullet!  After all, no one will be good enough for Andi.  So, another upcoming wasted show, time, and money spent.


MMA50...ITA...JP was thrown under the bus and the bus went forward and back forward and back numerous time before it tore off and left him in the dust. TPTB suck....I don't know how else to put it. hmmm 

ITA - kinda disgusted with TPTB!!! I hope JP takes his money and runs far, far away from TPTB!!! I know he can't actually run from them because of his contract but I sure wish he could! I hope he continues to stand by his beliefs and values!!

I am so disgusted/disappointed with TPTB that I really don't think I am going to watch TB this next season!  :Frown: 🇳🇴 :Frown: 🇳🇴 
I just can't believe how badly they have and still are treating JP!!
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Post by Guest Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:07 am

Yep Andi Dorfman IS the next Bachelorette. Sounds like maybe someone did a freedom of information request. She has left her job to film!! Bravo ABC! Good choice. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

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Post by jlccaz Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:16 pm

Today's NYTimes Sunday Mag has big C.Harrison interview of possible interest here...

You’ve been hosting “The Bachelor” and “The Bachelorette” for a combined 27 seasons. Are you surprised how long the show has lasted?
Absolutely. It started back in 2002, when there was hardly any reality television. “Survivor” had just started. My hope and dream was that “The Bachelor” would last one or two nights on network TV, so I might meet somebody in the network and then I could get a real job.

Would you ever be the Bachelor?
Now that I’m divorced, it’s feasible. But there needs to be a level of innocence and naïveté when you come in to be the Bachelor, and I have none. I have seen how the sausage has been made for 12 years now, and I helped make that sausage and so it just wouldn’t work.

What if your ex-wife wanted to be the Bachelorette?
That would be amazing. She’s beautiful. I think she would love that. I would not only host that, I’d produce it.

How do you get the women to say mean things about one another? There are cameras in their faces. Does alcohol lower their inhibitions?
No, I think too much on our show has been blamed on alcohol. There’s not that much. If you want to drink, you can. This season especially, Juan Pablo didn’t drink at all, and he really impressed upon the girls not to drink, and they didn’t.

But there’s nothing else to do. It’s like total sensory deprivation: They can’t read, they can’t watch TV, they can’t listen to music.
Right, they would have cocktails — but we truly try to avoid sloppy-drunk moments, honestly. It doesn’t really help us. It isn’t good television, it’s really not. It’s a funny novelty once in a while, but if you saw that week in and week out, over and over, that wouldn’t be a good show.

Do the contestants request alcohol?
We shop for them. They can have whatever they want. With the guys, we go through 9,000 eggs in a season, because apparently the modern-day guy doesn’t have a hair on his body and eats 40 egg whites a meal. Once I told them: “I know why you’re all single. You’re too busy eating egg whites and working out.”

Back to Juan Pablo. He made comments deriding homosexuality and saying there should not be a gay Bachelor. What do you think?
The question is: Is it a good business decision? I just spoke at U.S.C. the other night, and I explained it like this: Look, if you’ve been making pizzas for 12 years and you’ve made millions of dollars and everybody loves your pizzas and someone comes and says, “Hey, you should make hamburgers.” Why? I have a great business model, and I don’t know if hamburgers are going to sell.



Before we get to a GLBT bachelor or bachelorette, how about a black guy?They watch TV too.
People are asking because they would like to see themselves represented.
They do, and that, to me, is a different topic. Is our job to break barriers, or is it a business? That’s not for me to answer. If you want to talk about that with me on a philosophical level, I’m happy to: I am 100 percent for equality and gay marriage.


Has hosting “The Bachelor” taught you anything about competition?
Love is a competition. If you don’t think so, then you’re crazy, because why are you dressing up, why are you wearing those heels, why are you wearing that $400 perfume? Why are you shaving your chest and eating 40,000 egg whites?

Have you considered a less hunky bachelor, like maybe a chubby guy?
No. You know why? Because that’s not attractive, and television is a very visual medium, and I know that sounds horrible to say, but I know that at 42, in the eyes of television, I’m old and unattractive. Sure, I can put a suit and tie on, but I have hair on my chest and I don’t have a 12-pack. I live a healthy life, but I don’t do eight hours in the gym, nor do I want to. And I don’t eat 50,000 egg whites.

By using it so much, do you worry that “The Bachelor” has made the word “journey” meaningless?
What about “amazing”? “Incredible,” “amazing,” “beautiful.” All of them. How do you describe the 90th mountaintop or beach that you’ve been on? Yeah, it’s amazing, it’s incredible, it’s beautiful. You go down the list and you start recycling them, and now it’s just become a joke.
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Post by Idlemess Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:33 pm

jlccaz wrote:Today's NYTimes Sunday Mag has big C.Harrison interview of possible interest here...

You’ve been hosting “The Bachelor” and “The Bachelorette” for a combined 27 seasons. Are you surprised how long the show has lasted?
Absolutely. It started back in 2002, when there was hardly any reality television. “Survivor” had just started. My hope and dream was that “The Bachelor” would last one or two nights on network TV, so I might meet somebody in the network and then I could get a real job.

Would you ever be the Bachelor?
Now that I’m divorced, it’s feasible. But there needs to be a level of innocence and naïveté when you come in to be the Bachelor, and I have none. I have seen how the sausage has been made for 12 years now, and I helped make that sausage and so it just wouldn’t work.

What if your ex-wife wanted to be the Bachelorette?
That would be amazing. She’s beautiful. I think she would love that. I would not only host that, I’d produce it.

How do you get the women to say mean things about one another? There are cameras in their faces. Does alcohol lower their inhibitions?
No, I think too much on our show has been blamed on alcohol. There’s not that much. If you want to drink, you can. This season especially, Juan Pablo didn’t drink at all, and he really impressed upon the girls not to drink, and they didn’t.

But there’s nothing else to do. It’s like total sensory deprivation: They can’t read, they can’t watch TV, they can’t listen to music.
Right, they would have cocktails — but we truly try to avoid sloppy-drunk moments, honestly. It doesn’t really help us. It isn’t good television, it’s really not. It’s a funny novelty once in a while, but if you saw that week in and week out, over and over, that wouldn’t be a good show.

Do the contestants request alcohol?
We shop for them. They can have whatever they want. With the guys, we go through 9,000 eggs in a season, because apparently the modern-day guy doesn’t have a hair on his body and eats 40 egg whites a meal. Once I told them: “I know why you’re all single. You’re too busy eating egg whites and working out.”

Back to Juan Pablo. He made comments deriding homosexuality and saying there should not be a gay Bachelor. What do you think?
The question is: Is it a good business decision? I just spoke at U.S.C. the other night, and I explained it like this: Look, if you’ve been making pizzas for 12 years and you’ve made millions of dollars and everybody loves your pizzas and someone comes and says, “Hey, you should make hamburgers.” Why? I have a great business model, and I don’t know if hamburgers are going to sell.



Before we get to a GLBT bachelor or bachelorette, how about a black guy?They watch TV too.
People are asking because they would like to see themselves represented.
They do, and that, to me, is a different topic. Is our job to break barriers, or is it a business? That’s not for me to answer. If you want to talk about that with me on a philosophical level, I’m happy to: I am 100 percent for equality and gay marriage.


Has hosting “The Bachelor” taught you anything about competition?
Love is a competition. If you don’t think so, then you’re crazy, because why are you dressing up, why are you wearing those heels, why are you wearing that $400 perfume? Why are you shaving your chest and eating 40,000 egg whites?

Have you considered a less hunky bachelor, like maybe a chubby guy?
No. You know why? Because that’s not attractive, and television is a very visual medium, and I know that sounds horrible to say, but I know that at 42, in the eyes of television, I’m old and unattractive. Sure, I can put a suit and tie on, but I have hair on my chest and I don’t have a 12-pack. I live a healthy life, but I don’t do eight hours in the gym, nor do I want to. And I don’t eat 50,000 egg whites.

By using it so much, do you worry that “The Bachelor” has made the word “journey” meaningless?
What about “amazing”? “Incredible,” “amazing,” “beautiful.” All of them. How do you describe the 90th mountaintop or beach that you’ve been on? Yeah, it’s amazing, it’s incredible, it’s beautiful. You go down the list and you start recycling them, and now it’s just become a joke.

Chris H is a joke and laughing all the way to the bank. WHY indeed, Chris! Why fix what's not "broken". Basically it doesn't matter who's on the show just not gay, fat or non Caucasian or unattractive (by the Bachelor's hypocrisy).
Just make it light and meaningless Chris, you've done well in 27 seasons of The Bachelor.
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Post by Muslady Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:45 pm

CH basically said what Juan P said just in a camouflaged way. I just wonder what the difference in CH or JuanP saying this is? I guess it really comes down to filter.
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Post by Maggenzm Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:55 pm

MMA50 wrote:
Iluvbachette wrote:Well even the ABC hasn't announce Andi. Some speculate on if RS is right or wrong. By this I would definately say the cat is out of the bag.

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Gosh, I am just loving all the comments on this piece of wanna-be-famous act.  I smell TV endorsements, E! Reporter (Ali comes to mind), DWTS, Host of Bachelor Pad, Bachelor/'rette shows, cover sho0ts, porn princess..etc. etc.  She won't need the ADA job when she gets done deceiving the guys on the 'rette show.  We will see!

She was definitely directed to go harsh on JP so America can feel sorry for, and fall in love with her.  All set up at the Yawn Pablo expense.  And, yes Chris Harrison was in on it that's why they sent him to go talk to JP, only he didn't alert the idiot because he was part of the conspiracy to set him up.  You know, I think CH should date and marry Andi.

Now, that I think of it, I believe that was the same tactics they used on Des show with a certain someone, but it backfired because he then refused to be the next bachelor.  Same game plan, just different actors.

As for when ABC will announce it! It will be done on the ATFR.

MMA,

I first I thought she can't be that bad, but, then I thought about how he persecuted him for not crying over her living(showing emotions). She could have addressed the issue with him in the fantasy suite, but nooooooo! she had to tell American what a fraud she thought he was, and come out as the victim. Nice plan!! I hope all works out for her.
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Post by Maggenzm Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:00 pm

MMA50 wrote:
Bet2Win wrote:
MMA50 wrote:
Iluvbachette wrote:Well even the ABC hasn't announce Andi. Some speculate on if RS is right or wrong. By this I would definately say the cat is out of the bag.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Gosh, I am just loving all the comments on this piece of wanna-be-famous act.  I smell TV endorsements, E! Reporter (Ali comes to mind), DWTS, Host of Bachelor Pad, Bachelor/'rette shows, cover sho0ts, porn princess..etc. etc.  She won't need the ADA job when she gets done deceiving the guys on the 'rette show.  We will see!

She was definitely directed to go harsh on JP so America can feel sorry for, and fall in love with her.  All set up at the Yawn Pablo expense.  And, yes Chris Harrison was in on it that's why they sent him to go talk to JP, only he didn't alert the idiot because he was part of the conspiracy to set him up.  You know, I think CH should date and marry Andi.

Now, that I think of it, I believe that was the same tactics they used on Des show with a certain someone, but it backfired because he then refused to be the next bachelor.  Same game plan, just different actors.

As for when ABC will announce it! It will be done on the ATFR.

Whoa, the comments are harsh!

JP was not my cup of tea, and I had a good idea of his ulterior motive.  However, I feel sorry for the lead when they have been used and now abused by a network for ratings, and also by a wanna-be contestant.  Everyone goes on that show wants to be the Bachelor/Bachelorette.  However, I have never seen a lead trashed and ripped apart on all my years of watching the show.  It was a setup from jumpstreet, and Yawn Pablo got used and abused and thrown under the bus.

Now for lil Ms. Andi, Karma.....Period.

Trashed and ripped apart is exactly how I feel Juan has being treated. My heart breaks for him.
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Post by Maggenzm Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:22 pm

Rolly wrote:
MMA50 wrote:
eirekay wrote:
MMA50 wrote:Gosh, I am just loving all the comments on this piece of wanna-be-famous act. I smell TV endorsements, E! Reporter (Ali comes to mind), DWTS, Host of Bachelor Pad, Bachelor/'rette shows, cover sho0ts, porn princess..etc. etc. She won't need the ADA job when she gets done deceiving the guys on the 'rette show. We will see!

Bet2Win wrote:Whoa, the comments are harsh!

 clapping! Exactly what I was going to say!

I apologize for being so harsh.  It is how I feel because I have two sons, that I would never want to witness going thru what JP was put through.  He was thrown under the bus, and ran over so many times, that all that is left of him now, is the thread of his being.  So unfair!

Now, please remind me to never, never give my blessings to my sons to do such a show.  Wow, Zach Waddell dodged a bullet!  After all, no one will be good enough for Andi.  So, another upcoming wasted show, time, and money spent.


MMA50...ITA...JP was thrown under the bus and the bus went forward and back forward and back numerous time before it tore off and left him in the dust. TPTB suck....I don't know how else to put it. hmmm 

Ladies, I am so glad I am not alone at this Juan Pablo drama. Have you noticed Juan Pablo changes on Twitter? He used to translate all his tweets, but no longer does that. Also, he used to tweet about 1000 tweets a day but now not even 20. I think Juan 's spirit has being broken more than what we can see. I don't see fire in tweets anymore.  I hope he will be OK. I am really dreading watching the WTN "women tell  nothing" tomorrow night. I don't think my heart can take anymore Juan trashing. LOL. Boy, this show is not for the faint hearted!!
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Post by Butter_Scotch77 Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:37 pm

Saw this tweet from Juan Pablo on 2/28 .... thought it was interesting ....it said a lot!

"Don't TRUST people who ENCHANTS you too MUCH before making a DEAL, later they will TURN their backs..."
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