*NO SPOILERS* The Bachelorette 10 - Episode Discussion

GrahamGal wrote:

pander3575 wrote:I've only been reading in this thread a short time so I have a question.  When did all of you see the real connection with Josh?  Even though she seemed leery because he was a jock I thought she really liked his looks on night one with "nailed it".  

I'll take a swing at this even though Libby touched on a lot of their moments for me.  Sorry in advance it's so long and for any typos.

Episode 1 - I saw the connection right out of the limo.  Yes he was her type, but there was just a natural ease in their conversation during the cocktail party.  The banter about sushi was very playful and had a natural flow about it.  I don't think she was truly questioning whether he was being genuine.  That ITM was shot either later in the season or afterwards since it was not like any other ITMs from that night except for the dress. It was put in for storyline purposes only IMO.

Episode 2 - He kinda calls her out on not stereotyping him as your typical athlete.  It shows to me that he is perceptive, and has likely had others in the past do the same.  At the cocktail party he is a hot mess and Andi seemed to love it.  That first kiss while dancing in the driveway she had a smile the size of Georgia.  I think this is when she starts to think about the "Too good to be true" stuff.  Here's this guy that is "my type" from Atlanta who is great on paper and easy on the eyes.  So there must be something I am missing. It can't be this easy.  So she tries to complicate it and starts over analyze everything.

Episode 3 - He can't sing worth a lick, but he doesn't care.  He enjoys the date anyway even if he forgets all the words.  Again the playful banter between them and those kisses tell me she is VERY interested and has a physical chemistry beyond anything she has with the other guys.  He gets the rose.

Episode 5 - Again natural chemistry oozes out to them.  The way they are walking around town and then to the boat is not like anything I see with the others guys.  Once on the boat they are all over each other.  The way she is touching his hand when he has it around her waist is a way for her to be connected and show she is interested in what he is saying even though they are not facing on another. When they have there picnic I just notice the earrings she has on for the day part of the date are the infinity symbol (forever).  Hmmm very interesting. Of course they get pooped on which is a sign of good luck.  They pull up at the palace and you see he has come around to helped her out of the car (gentleman).  She has a hold of him good and they walk with their arms around each other to dinner.  While at dinner they show some depth to their conversation when they talk about past relationships.  Of course not too much or it wouldn't fit the jock edit.  During the conversation they are completely connected. This is where I see them switch and he is sort of becoming the lead trying to get her to take her walls down with him. He gets the rose and they share a private dance where she makes sure he listens to the words.

Episode 6 - Lie detector test. I actually get what Josh was trying to say here.  Trust is an important part of a relationship, but should be built organically not through some contrived test. I am honest, many say to a fault, but taking a lie detector test would terrify me.  Not every question is a simple yes or no.  He didn't want to see her results and he was glad she tore them up for the guys and it showed him she was trusting them.  For me I didn't think her breakdown in her ITMs this episode (and the preview) where about the lie detector test and trust.  I think it was from her completely fishing for Josh to say he was falling in love with her, and he wouldn't.  He would only say he liked her, he liked her a lot and wouldn't be there if he didn't see the relationship progressing.  She became fisty Andi with that "you're right you wouldnt" .  At this point Andi was a mess because she didn't know if Josh would be able to give her the fairytale she was wanting at the end.  She wanted the man she loved to propose at the end and she didn't know if Josh would be able to give her that.  Hence the breakdown.  This for me is when I knew it was all over for Andi, unless Josh were to leave and I didn't see him going anywhere.

Episode 7 - When Nick snuck over to visit Andi that was the first time I could really see a strong connection between them.  At this point she doesn't know if Josh is going to stick around or be ready to propose at the end if he does.  She is scared that it may stall as all the other guys around him are dropping the L word left and right.  So when she is with Nick she is exploring other options just in case (sorry Nick fans).  Now comes her second date with Josh. She keeps digging for that "I'm falling in love with you" from him, but he is not budging.  Did she really think he would say it as they are breaking bread while sitting on the wall of the canal?  Josh is just lucky she didn't push him in!  That girl wanted him to say it so bad.  Enter romantic setting.  Again she starts pressing.  IMO he had wanted to say it before, but was not going to cave in so he did it when he was ready and once he did it was all over for the other guys.  That glow and smile you can't edit. When they walk out to the concert, and he kisses her, and then as he begins to walk off she pulls him back in for more the other guys may have just as well gone home.  Then they dance and kiss and dance and kiss on the nose or anywhere they so choose.

For me it's the little things like the way they touch each other, the way they embrace, the kisses on the nose, and other subtle things.  It just seemed different to me.  When he walked in with her to meet his parents and he got emotional she reaches up and gently wipes away his tear. And last but not least when he gave her the bouquet of roses and she calls him baaaaaaaabe.  Loved it.

These two remind me of Jash and I hope it works out just the same for them as it did for Ashley and JP.

I really have tried to see something between Andi and the other guys, but to me Josh is just on another level.  I'm not saying there is nothing there with the other guys as that would be naive, but it's nothing compared to what I see with Josh.  I think he turns the fiery Andi into mush.  He seems to bring out a softer side to Andi and I really like that.

Non Josh fans don't laugh at me.  I will be driving the #teamidiot buss if I'm wrong.  I just call them as I see them even when they are not my favorite.  This time my favorite just happens to be who I think Andi ends up with.

WAKE UP!!!!  

Peppermom wrote:Great breakdown GG.  Between you and Libby, I can't think of another thing to add to what I see in their connection.  I didn't think about the FD date being a nod to Eric but it makes perfect sense.

I didn't think about how much Nick and Ben are alike in the edit.  I think both had a good connection with Andi and Ashley but it was not the same as with Josh or JP.   They are good but not "The One".  

albean99 wrote:I'd like to ask that the spoiled members be careful at what they post in the non-spoiler threads and avoid giving their opinions about who Andi picks and why. I know the ones who post here seem to have decided that Josh is the f1 but that's up to them to decide and shouldn't be swayed by anyone else.