Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #3

KB_Mom wrote:Highs and lows.... loved the chemistry I saw with Nick and K last night and the romantic notion that he came on the show because he didn't want to live with regrets if K got engaged and he never took his shot to see if the initial spark ignited to full blown love.  With how happy he seems to be post filming, I felt like even if he is not F1, he's happy and content because he took the risk and tried, instead of living with the regret and always wondering "what if..."

The read CH TV guide interview and blog about last night's epi.... wow, not exactly subtle about backing up the Mack truck (not even the bus this time) to run over Nick... left me fearing what kind of edit Nick is going to get.  OTOH, while I believe Nick sincerely came on the show for Kait, TPTB were only interested in the ratings gold to be milked from the drama, angst and controversy of bringing the  polarizing Nick back, and I wonder if this is just CH to maximize people tuning in expecting a rerun of Nick on Andi's season.

I am finding this season very confusing to try to read the clues where it is headed, so to avoid the men in the white coats coming to get me as I debate with myself where the clues point, I am just going to enjoy the "journey."  Whatever the outcome, Nick seems very content and even if he gets a bad edit,been there, done that and survived. He had to know a bad edit was a risk he took and he was willing to take that risk. Indeed, imo, he not only survived but thrived despite last season's edit, and he's now "experienced"in dealing with a negative edit and I'm sure prepared himself if it happens again when he made the decision to goon the show this season.

BKay wrote:Lots of wonky editing. What if all of the Nick and Kait romance is completely manufactured? Is it possible that tptb had Nick by the b#lls because he broke his contract so 'visibly' in the plane video, and they held that threat over his head to force him to come back this season?

What is it, like a $5 million fine for revealing info? Whatever the amount is, that's a big hammer over his head, and maybe he looks so happy now because the threat is finally gone.

Just thinking of all possibilities since this season seems so faked in all regards.

GuardianAngel wrote:Sleuthers here determined long ago with a lot of work, that something was up with Nick and K via SM. Chris' season was still airing. Sometime in February, it became evident that the sleuthing had some real merit. Speculation on what will he do, if 1. she is the 'ette 2. she isn't the ette, was ongoing. It was clear she was rumoured to be the next lead but there was this SM fling happening and where would that leave Nick. I think he contacted them and wanted to be on show. What are TPTB going to say, no? It was like winning the lottery for them.

IMO the events leading up to Nick appearing on the show, are exactly how he has explained it. The sleuthing backs it up JMHO

Rolly wrote:

KB_Mom wrote:Highs and lows.... loved the chemistry I saw with Nick and K last night and the romantic notion that he came on the show because he didn't want to live with regrets if K got engaged and he never took his shot to see if the initial spark ignited to full blown love.  With how happy he seems to be post filming, I felt like even if he is not F1, he's happy and content because he took the risk and tried, instead of living with the regret and always wondering "what if..."

The read CH TV guide interview and blog about last night's epi.... wow, not exactly subtle about backing up the Mack truck (not even the bus this time) to run over Nick... left me fearing what kind of edit Nick is going to get.  OTOH, while I believe Nick sincerely came on the show for Kait, TPTB were only interested in the ratings gold to be milked from the drama, angst and controversy of bringing the  polarizing Nick back, and I wonder if this is just CH to maximize people tuning in expecting a rerun of Nick on Andi's season.

I am finding this season very confusing to try to read the clues where it is headed, so to avoid the men in the white coats coming to get me as I debate with myself where the clues point, I am just going to enjoy the "journey."  Whatever the outcome, Nick seems very content and even if he gets a bad edit,been there, done that and survived. He had to know a bad edit was a risk he took and he was willing to take that risk. Indeed, imo, he not only survived but thrived despite last season's edit, and he's now "experienced"in dealing with a negative edit and I'm sure prepared himself if it happens again when he made the decision to goon the show this season.

Can't wait to see how the K/N story unfolds....

Luvstruck wrote:It really did seem Kaitlyn was surprised and excited he came to date her.  In my opinion it is more than lust although there is lust between them, they do have a friendship that was built on correspondences so when they met the sparks just ignited into flames.  It is curious that even Chris HArrison said this season was split in two, the before and after Nick and how her decision  to keep him impacts everything from this point on.  It does seem the edit is foreshadowing Shawn being unable to handle Kaitlyn's relationship with  Nick. Just wonder what derails her and Nick at this point if she does indeed end up with no one. When is the men tell all being filmed? Usually the final 2 will show up to party with cast mates and the final 1 is not with them. It sould be interesting to see if either Shawn or Nick or both come to party.

jojo47 wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Sleuthers here determined long ago with a lot of work, that something was up with Nick and K via SM. Chris' season was still airing. Sometime in February, it became evident that the sleuthing had some real merit. Speculation on what will he do, if 1. she is the 'ette 2. she isn't the ette, was ongoing. It was clear she was rumoured to be the next lead but there was this SM fling happening and where would that leave Nick. I think he contacted them and wanted to be on show. What are TPTB going to say, no? It was like winning the lottery for them.

IMO the events leading up to Nick appearing on the show, are exactly how he has explained it. The sleuthing backs it up JMHO

You never know, Nick's interest in Kaitlyn & him wanting to be on the show might be what solidified her selection as B'ette. Winning the lottery is right!

Luvstruck wrote:It really did seem Kaitlyn was surprised and excited he came to date her.  In my opinion it is more than lust although there is lust between them, they do have a friendship that was built on correspondences so when they met the sparks just ignited into flames.  It is curious that even Chris HArrison said this season was split in two, the before and after Nick and how her decision  to keep him impacts everything from this point on.  It does seem the edit is foreshadowing Shawn being unable to handle Kaitlyn's relationship with  Nick. Just wonder what derails her and Nick at this point if she does indeed end up with no one. When is the men tell all being filmed? Usually the final 2 will show up to party with cast mates and the final 1 is not with them. It sould be interesting to see if either Shawn or Nick or both come to party.