The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Scaps - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

julychild wrote:Is this Becca? It's from yesterday's preview

Looks like her. Ben really likes to kiss!! Looks like they edited out a lot of kissing out of the show so he doesn't look as bad. I know it's the go to thing to do for most bachelors but Ben has really surprised me with how much he likes to kiss. His ex was correct about that it seems

^^ What episode did this take place?

Someone posted it happened in Mexico City already?


It's funny though because in Australia Ben is being called the "Pashelor" (pash means kiss).

bronco18 wrote:Ok - helicopter scene is taken at FRC location:


Sc's and Google

Here's the helicopter SC from the latest preview:


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Helicopter numbers appear to match, so what does this mean?

IMO, these 2 Sc's of the helicopter are of the same scene. So, who could be in the helicopter? Is it Ben arriving at FRC location? Is it Ma and Pa Higgins arriving for the FRC? Or is it "Bren" going somewhere post FRC to celebrate?

It also appears that the "green shirt scene" was taken at FRC location. Maybe Ben stayed here while he was in Jamaica.


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This is the guest house at FRC location:


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ETA: This is actually not the guest house, but part of the main house.

AllAboutLove wrote:Someone posted it happened in Mexico City already?


It's funny though because in Australia Ben is being called the "Pashelor" (pash means kiss).

Hmmm...he is definitely leaning into her, but yeah, he doesn't like her...at all.

Well according to the Us Weekly insiders, Ben says "I love you" to 2 of 3 women on overnight dates. So, that's earlier than expected, as I was thinking he said that on the finale. I also think the "honestly I do love you" is possibly a second time he said it and not the first..

Ben and Jojo takes an helicopter on their FD or LCD. Could the chopper be from that date and has nothing to do with FRC?

I think it could. The villa is beside the resort where the girls are staying and the helicopter is Sandals'

The women might arrive to the FRC in a helicopter as well, even if the F2 is taken away in a limo. Or maybe they only had one limo and used a helicopter for the F1. Helicopter scenes are always more dramatic anyway.

The green shirt scene where he is crying, seems to be the same exact shirt he is wearing when he says "I told two women I love them this week." So that would of been from overnight dates, according to us weekly insiders.

So I have been analyzing sun angles and shadows in what is believed to be FRC sc's. So, the rose is facing north, IMO, so in this sc look at the shadows:


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So, the angle of the sun seems to be near sunset, IMO. In the limo sc's, the road runs directly north/south, and the limo is facing toward the south, IMO. The angle of the sun seems to be directly overhead, based on the tree shadows. Sunset is about 5:30 pm in November and day length about 12 hours.. So to analyze the times of limo departure vs time of proposal to F1, it seems a few hours may have passed. JMO, I thought I would point these things out so other sleuthers could also give thoughts/opinions/etc.

I think your analysis makes sense.  Ben is such an emotional wreck over the "breakup" he definitely needs some extended time to try to pull himself together for the "proposal."