The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Epi 7 - July 11th- *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Does Luke get the first date?

julychild wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

julychild wrote:Brought over from the general thread:




Think that dress may be too much for the evening part of a date. Maybe they had the RC at the hanger belonging to the private jet company? Don't know.

My assumption of Jordan getting the winery date was based on the fact that it continues on to say the guy on that date made a "shocking admission." But to your point, Mendoza is the main wine region of Argentina, so maybe Luke got that date. Just guessing, we'll know in a week.

It's kind of odd that they fly for 2 hours to Mendoza, yet we have the evening portion of Jordan's date filmed in BA, and maybe even the GD, based on the hotel and clock tower SC's.

IMO, it is epi 6 that is in BA.  Mendoza is the epi 7.  We have id'd the sc of Robby running down the halls to the hotel that they are staying at in BA.  IMO, we have Robby AND Jordan at the same locale in BA so that would be the night portion of their group date there, IMO.

Episode 6 –    Buenos Aires/tweeted arrival pic  8-6  (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex ) another 2/1 per video about CH talking about what to expect this week.   Plaza Hotel, Buenos Aires (sc of Robby running down the hall id'd as happening in the Plaza Hotel.         http://www.plazahotelba.com/default-en.html
4/8: 1-on-1 Date WELLS....eliminated; back on SM 4/9
4/9: Group Date:   ROBBY, JORDAN, ALEX, LUKE, JAMES T  Robby got GDR   Pasaje de la Defensa
4/10: 2-on-1 Date;  CHASE AND DEREK;  Derek eliminated
4/11: 6th Rose Ceremony:  NO RC   Great Hall of Honor at the Palacio Paz, BA
4/12: Travel



IMO,, epi 7 all happens in Mendoza area.

Episode 7 –  Filming in Mendoza, Argentina  @ Entre Cielos Hotel   http://entrecielos.com/  (James, Robby, Chase, Jordan, Luke, ??)

4/13: 1-on-1 Date:  ALEX;  horseback riding
4/14: 1-on-1 Date:  JORDAN
4/15: Group Date:  ROBBY, CHASE, JAMES T, LUKE
4/16: 7th Rose Ceremony  ELIMINATED:  James

I think based on the preview for epi 6, and the description, including the description for epi 7, we can say that the hotel scene and Jordan/Jojo dinner  happens in epi 7. Don't know why it was filmed between BA and Mendoza, but from all indications, it appears like they did.

Highly doubt that they would of stayed in the same hotel for that amount of time though.  We have Jordan and Robby on the same group date in epi 6 and according to sc's and the pics of both guys were at Pasaje de la Defensa at the same time, therefore, IMO she may of had extra time with Jordan but likely not an extra date.  IMO, I really don't understand how it has gotten to that Jordan had a date in epi 7 and not Robby?

SO, if we were to consider that epi 6 is in BA and epi 7 is in Mendoza, then how does Robby, Jordan and Jojo happen to be in the Pasaje de la Defensa in both epi 6 and 7??

EPI 6:

Episode 6 –    Buenos Aires/tweeted arrival pic  8-6  (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex ) another 2/1 per video about CH talking about what to expect this week.   Plaza Hotel, Buenos Aires(ROBBY RUNNING THROUGH HALLWAYS OF THE PLAZA HOTEL)          http://www.plazahotelba.com/default-en.html
4/8: 1-on-1 Date WELLS....eliminated; back on SM 4/9
4/9: Group Date:   ROBBY, JORDAN, ALEX, LUKE, JAMES T  Robby got GDR   Pasaje de la Defensa SC'S OF BOTH ROBBY AND JORDAN AT DIFFERENT TIMES SEEN IN THE PLAZA AS SLEUTHED OUT.
4/10: 2-on-1 Date;  CHASE AND DEREK;  Derek eliminated
4/11: 6th Rose Ceremony:  NO RC   Great Hall of Honor at the Palacio Paz, BA



IMO, there may be something wrong with the tv guide summary, especially when it says that they have moved filming to the Argentina countryside in epi 7.  If that's the case, then IMO, there's no way that they would of stayed in the Plaza Hotel for two episodes.  

JoJo and the men visit the Argentinian countryside, where the first date gets off to a rocky start - (Think this could be rock climbing as that is a big thing around Mendoza). Later, a private jet whisks JoJo and one lucky guy away to a vineyard. During dinner, the bachelor makes a shocking admission(cue in Jojo in a blue dress crying her eyes out). A date with three suitors gets rained out, so JoJo spends the day with them ordering room service, pillow fighting and watching the Brazilian version of "The Bachelor." A one-on-one date allows one man to show off his horse-riding skills.

I still think that Robby and Jordan on the group date at the Pasaje de la Defensa is from the group date as how can 2 different guys end up in the same plaza?? IMO, there's no way they would of had 2 different dates in the same area.

Auntie, here's what JoJo and Jordan are wearing on the evening portion of the GD in episode 6. JoJo has on the same clothes that she has on with Robby on that checkered tile floor. We never confirmed that SC was at Pasaje de la Defensa.



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Here's what they are wearing on his date in episode 7 at Pasaje de la Defensa.

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I agree it doesn't seem logical that they stayed in BA for some of episode 7, but I don't see any other way to make sense of all the extra caps we have.

Also, I think there's another 1 on 1 in episode 7. The description list a private plane to a vineyard.
4/13: 1-on-1 Date: ALEX; horseback riding
4/14: 1-on-1 Date: JORDAN
4/15: Group Date: ROBBY, CHASE, JAMES T, LUKE
4/16: 7th Rose Ceremony ELIMINATED: James

Well, we do have Jordan, Robby and now Luke in the Pasaje de la Defensa as we did ID the plaza and floor area along with the bench.  IMO, there was Robby, Jordan, Luke, Alex, James.  

we have Robby and Jojo at the Pasaje de la Defensa


Jojo and Jordan in the same attire that she has with Robby and with Luke in the video below.







I am thinking that we have a group date of ROBBY, JORDAN, ALEX, LUKE, JAMES T. I also think that along with what Aus Bach and NZ Bach, there may be a group date but the lead can choose one of the guys in this case to have more time with, hense the dinner.  IMO, she sends the guys home, this is when she changes shirts.  Maybe far fetched, but with all those guys seen now in the  Pasaje de la Defensa, that is the only thought I can come up with.  If I am wrong, then that's it, but we will in any case know in the next few days.

I agree though.....there were likely 3 individual dates and a group date in epi 7, but 2 weeks in Buenos Aires doesn't seem right neither. IMO, Epi 7 won't be in BA, therefore we hae Jordan and Jojo on a date at the pasaje de la defensa, therefore, logically(yep, know that isn't always the best way to look at it, but) since they are already in the Pasaje, she would have a continuance to their date by sending the other guys home and they get dressed in their dinner attire.

where has the ep7 RC been sleuthed At ?

nd4reality wrote:where has the ep7 RC been sleuthed At ?

From AL's filming schedule and post above--not sure that answers your question about the RC though.

IMO,, epi 7 all happens in Mendoza area.

Episode 7 –  Filming in Mendoza, Argentina  @ Entre Cielos Hotel   http://entrecielos.com/  (James, Robby, Chase, Jordan, Luke, ??)

4/13: 1-on-1 Date:  ALEX;  horseback riding
4/14: 1-on-1 Date:  JORDAN
4/15: Group Date:  ROBBY, CHASE, JAMES T, LUKE
4/16: 7th Rose Ceremony  ELIMINATED:  James

well not really. Just because there was the question if the entire ep7 was filming in the country side or not. 

IMO Jordan's date was not.

Could be a group date perhaps?  A puzzle piece to fit into Epi 7.  

RealitySteve @RealitySteve  Apr 15
(SPOILER): Filming still in Argentina for episode 7. JoJo filming at the Entre Cielos Hotel in Mendoza yesterday...

Aunties_Love wrote:Well, we do have Jordan, Robby and now Luke in the Pasaje de la Defensa as we did ID the plaza and floor area along with the bench.  IMO, there was Robby, Jordan, Luke, Alex, James.  

we have Robby and Jojo at the Pasaje de la Defensa


Jojo and Jordan in the same attire that she has with Robby and with Luke in the video below.

I am thinking that we have a group date of ROBBY, JORDAN, ALEX, LUKE, JAMES T. I also think that along with what Aus Bach and NZ Bach, there may be a group date but the lead can choose one of the guys in this case to have more time with, hense the dinner.  IMO, she sends the guys home, this is when she changes shirts.  Maybe far fetched, but with all those guys seen now in the  Pasaje de la Defensa, that is the only thought I can come up with.  If I am wrong, then that's it, but we will in any case know in the next few days.

I agree though.....there were likely 3 individual dates and a group date in epi 7, but 2 weeks in Buenos Aires doesn't seem right neither.  IMO, Epi 7 won't be in BA, therefore we hae Jordan and Jojo on a date at the pasaje de la defensa, therefore, logically(yep, know that isn't always the best way to look at it, but) since they are already in the Pasaje, she would have a continuance to their date by sending the other guys home and they get dressed in their dinner attire.

Remember when I was saying that the dividing borders are dark instead of light in the tile floor with Robby? Do you think any of the caps in that clip of Luke match Pasaje de Defensa? I think there are a lot of tiled floors like that in Argentina.

nd4reality wrote:where has the ep7 RC been sleuthed At ?

We don't know.

MiniDiva wrote:Could be a group date perhaps?  A puzzle piece to fit into Epi 7.  

RealitySteve @RealitySteve  Apr 15
(SPOILER): Filming still in Argentina for episode 7. JoJo filming at the Entre Cielos Hotel in Mendoza yesterday...

Looks like a vineyard in the background.

Episode 7 was reportedly filmed in Mendoza, but we have matched some locations from, what is believed to be, some of the dates to BA. What we cant figure out is, why film between 2 cities with 2 hours flying distance from one to the other.

If it does turn out that they went back to BA in epi 7, maybe there was a storm advisory and they didn't want to risk having the dates interrupted, so they left?

Alex's 1:1










Source: SC thread

What is he wearing?