Re: Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - BIP - Discussion

by Ladybug82 Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:05 pm

I'm no Andi fan, but I think she had enough sense not to cross, set off and encourage psycho mommy dearest to attack. Sometimes it's just not worth it and better to walk away.

And IMO, smart is not a word in the Murrays vocabulary nor a word I would associate with them.

by AllAboutLove Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:05 pm

I've been through and seen this type of thing firsthand (although not on such a public scale) and all I can say is the best thing to do is publicly put people like Josh and his mother on blast again and again.

Their power lays in hiding behind "privacy" and closed doors and a patriarchal world that puts fear into people so they don't speak out. Speaking out again and again is the best thing these girls can do IMO. Make Josh and MM be the ones to have to have a spotlight shone on them.

Cockroaches always scatter when the light is on them. As Josh and MM like to say... the truth will come out... well it's coming out alright and if this is to be taken seriously the best thing to do is to keep that spotlight on Josh and MM and make them aware its on them.

Keeping quiet especially on SM will only allow this creep to continue and I am more concerned about the possible future women out there that may fall to Josh and his mother's sick psycho abusive ways if there aren't enough voices speaking out against him. That's what creeps like this depend on, that they will "win" by silencing their victims and making them powerless.

So I say speak out as long as you can girls! jmo

by **GuardianAngel** Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:07 pm

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by Cocoasneeze Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:07 pm

Imo MM (I'm 100% sure that Chloe account is her) went after Lauren, because she has most info about Josh, MM and their psycho. Oh and to derail the discussion. Divert the conversation to Lauren and Ben instead of Josh and his crazy. Jmo.

The whole thing started with light-hearted joke comment 'I'd kill them all', and Josh getting involved. But Josh had to make it serious. How long are people going to have to 'let it go'? He's still manipulating and using Amanda, he's not letting go. He's running through tabloids again and again to trash her. Is she and her friends just supposed to sit back and take it? That's what abusers want. Free reign to speak and the victim stay quiet. I say good on Amanda, her friends, ex, JJ, and anyone stepping up and standing up to the horrible bullies. JMO

by StacyNor Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:08 pm

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by StacyNor Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:10 pm

Cocoasneeze wrote:Imo MM (I'm 100% sure that Chloe account is her) went after Lauren, because she has most info about Josh, MM and their psycho.

The whole thing started with light-hearted joke comment 'I'd kill them all', and Josh getting involved. But Josh had to make it serious. How long are people going to have to 'let it go'? He's still manipulating and using Amanda, he's not letting go. He's running through tabloids again and again to trash her. Is she and her friends just supposed to sit back and take it? That's what abusers want. Free reign to speak and the victim stay quiet. I say good on Amanda, her friends, ex, JJ, and anyone stepping up and standing up to the horrible bullies. JMO

What I don't get is why is she coming after Lauren? What has she done to her? Because that post came out as a personal attack to Lauren more so than Amanda.

by Kashathediva Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:11 pm

Cocoasneeze wrote:Imo MM (I'm 100% sure that Chloe account is her) went after Lauren, because she has most info about Josh, MM and their psycho.

The whole thing started with light-hearted joke comment 'I'd kill them all', and Josh getting involved. But Josh had to make it serious. How long are people going to have to 'let it go'? He's still manipulating and using Amanda, he's not letting go. He's running through tabloids again and again to trash her. Is she and her friends just supposed to sit back and take it? That's what abusers want. Free reign to speak and the victim stay quiet. I say good on Amanda, her friends, ex, JJ, and anyone stepping up and standing up to the horrible bullies. JMO

Add to the fact MM has bullied countless people on her FB page/twitter etc that have not agreed with her 100%. She has bullied members of our own forum.
It would not take a lot of research or digging for the tabloids to get wind of all this and the truth will come out, but not her truth.

by sosleepy Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:14 pm

No I'm serious. It's so bad right now that Josh should legitimately disable his internet and go disappear like OG Bachelor Alex, crazy psycho Kelsey, that weird Ian guy from Kaitlyn's season. There have been others. Time to hide away and let the world forget you existed.

Also, Andi fan again.

That's all Josh and his FREAKY mother have accomplished here. I'm totes cool with Ette 10 again. And I'm scared for Amanda and her daughters and think maybe it's time they get some legal advice.

by Cocoasneeze Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:15 pm

StacyNor wrote:
Cocoasneeze wrote:Imo MM (I'm 100% sure that Chloe account is her) went after Lauren, because she has most info about Josh, MM and their psycho.

The whole thing started with light-hearted joke comment 'I'd kill them all', and Josh getting involved. But Josh had to make it serious. How long are people going to have to 'let it go'? He's still manipulating and using Amanda, he's not letting go. He's running through tabloids again and again to trash her. Is she and her friends just supposed to sit back and take it? That's what abusers want. Free reign to speak and the victim stay quiet. I say good on Amanda, her friends, ex, JJ, and anyone stepping up and standing up to the horrible bullies. JMO
What I don't get is why is she coming after Lauren? What has she done to her? Because that post came out as a personal attack to Lauren more so than Amanda.

It's manipulative abusers 101. Divert the discussion to someone else. Lauren IMO has first hand info of Josh and MM and their insanity, so MM is making Lauren the discussion, trying to disarm her, make her defensive. So often when the abuser gets called out, they turn the talk on some mistake the other party did 1000 years ago, trying to make the victim be the one in the wrong. JMO

by AllAboutLove Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:16 pm

MM is going after Lauren because it's called "deflection". Distract from the main issue which is her abusive creep of a son (and herself) and distract by attacking someone else. It's a textbook tactic used by psychos like Josh and MM. So ultimately it's meaningless and a waste of time to be distracted with whatever MM says about anyone else as her main goal is to get people to not be focused on the main problem at hand.

It's why I couldn't care less what MM or Josh has to say about anyone else, I've known their kind before and they are cowards disguised as bullies and need to be put on blast which is why I am glad the girls are standing up and speaking out and I hope they continue to do so because it's exactly what MM and Josh don't want them to do and thus exactly what is needed.

jmo

by sosleepy Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:20 pm

Cocoasneeze wrote:
StacyNor wrote:
Cocoasneeze wrote:Imo MM (I'm 100% sure that Chloe account is her) went after Lauren, because she has most info about Josh, MM and their psycho.

The whole thing started with light-hearted joke comment 'I'd kill them all', and Josh getting involved. But Josh had to make it serious. How long are people going to have to 'let it go'? He's still manipulating and using Amanda, he's not letting go. He's running through tabloids again and again to trash her. Is she and her friends just supposed to sit back and take it? That's what abusers want. Free reign to speak and the victim stay quiet. I say good on Amanda, her friends, ex, JJ, and anyone stepping up and standing up to the horrible bullies. JMO
What I don't get is why is she coming after Lauren? What has she done to her? Because that post came out as a personal attack to Lauren more so than Amanda.

It's manipulative abusers 101. Divert the discussion to someone else. Lauren IMO has first hand info of Josh and MM and their insanity, so MM is making Lauren the discussion, trying to disarm her, make her defensive. So often when the abuser gets called out, they turn the talk on some mistake the other party did 1000 years ago, trying to make the victim be the one in the wrong. JMO

Yep. Exactly. Total HBIC/Mean Girls/Power move. Divert attention and disarm. Notice that after MM started RUTHLESSLY diverting the conversation to BenLo, and started mercilessly attacking Lauren, Lauren stopped engaging. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Ben stepped in and told Lauren to cool it. MM "won" in that regard. She's sick.

Really thankful for my own beautiful mother right now, who, bless her, doesn't understand social media. Praise the Lord. (Not that my mother would EVER in a million years do anything like this even if she did use SM.)

by maniluh Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:25 pm

The sick part of all of this is that I feel like Josh and MM are enjoying the attention. Bullies are normally attention seekers.

I hope Amanda gets a restraining order or get any legal advice before things really go out of hand.

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