Bachelor Canada - Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

HEA wrote:

richmondrose wrote:

HEA wrote:

Well it was important because of the timeline............... June 2 was never a FRC date and that is that... IMO
Of course it is was who cares really since it would be a miracle if stacy is top 2 at this point

I think that June 2 (Jun3 max) is a feasible date regardless of 3 or 4 girls @HTD -although we now know there will be only 3. I'm going on the IG pics of Claire Freeland, head producer and another producer who both had pictures dated June 4 saying "Home".

do we know if the crew leave the same date as the contestants? No we don't but in the past, the F2 has left with the producers
do we know if the picture was after show or after republican dominican (although i agree it very much look like after show, still a possibility they went home in between since home and W network are located in Toronto)The producer pic was after the show. Taken in Toronto I matched a couch in their home to the pic
do we know that the mega picture with tons of material at the airport is truly Toronto and do we know if it is to go back to mexico or way back from dominican republican (no way they would not return their material before hometown)we know it was at Toronto Pearson Airport as @richmondrose sleuthed it out
do we know if they need that much material for fantasy dates since RC and GD are not longer required YES, they would of taken all their filming goods as there are still dates - more romantic ones at that to set up for as well as the FRC
do we know if they need that much material for hometowns

both girls slept on the same coach..... so they are sharing the same "HOME" or do they consider Toronto as "home" The producers Claire Freeland and her husband who Britt was talking to last epi live in Toronto. I matched up the couch that Claire and the other producer(can't pull up their name now) was sleeping on as a couch that was in Claire's home in Toronto. Corus Entertainment who has W Network under their wing and GoodHumanProductions who Claire and her husband have, their head offices in Toronto. IMO, that is where some of the ITM's can be done after the show.


just some questions I am asking to myself...

Sprite wrote:

BlackHalo wrote:

Sprite wrote:I don't think it matters if a conflict is fabricated or not. To me what matters is that there is one. If they don't have one....yes, they manufacture something stupid, but if they have a built in one, then they go with that.

Similarly if a lead is attracted to someone great. They will show that or parts of that, but if the lead isn't into someone, they edit around it to create the attraction....music, romantic dates, showing kissing, etc. For me, at this point in time the only ones he is into are Lyndsay and Michaela. Everyone else is MOT including Jessie who is another person they are pushing somewhat now....even though to me they are like buddies.

The difference that I personally see between his edited attraction to Lyndsay and Michaela is that the stuff that I see with Michaela is stuff I have seen numerous times with numerous leads and numerous contestants....kiss against a wall, fireworks, etc. The things that I have seen with Lyndsay is very specific to her only. The hands prints on her butt, grabbing her to pull her back to him to kiss him as they are walking to go talk somewhere, the sheer frustration because she is younger than he wants. Those speak to me of spontaneity and were left in the edit to tell their story, where as the other seems more manufactured to create the effect that producers want.

IMO, the only thing this tells me is he is very physically attracted to her. I could also make a case for things that were specific to Brittany and she's gone now. He has also said and done things with Mikaela that are specific to her. In the very last episode no less. Does it only count when it's Lyndsey...

Yes, it tells me he is very physically attracted to her and since pretty much most of the Bachelors choose based on physical attraction it is significant IMO. While he made out with Brittany, I thought most of that was instigated by her and he was going along because...well, he enjoyed it and it is his job. At no time did I think he was seriously interested in Brittany. Just the same way that I pretty much dismiss his growing relationship with Jessie.

Can you please refresh me of what has he done that is specific to Michaela? With him I am ignoring his verbal diarrhea since he says pretty much the same stuff with everyone.

HEA wrote:

BlackHalo wrote:

Sprite wrote:I don't think it matters if a conflict is fabricated or not. To me what matters is that there is one. If they don't have one....yes, they manufacture something stupid, but if they have a built in one, then they go with that.

Similarly if a lead is attracted to someone great. They will show that or parts of that, but if the lead isn't into someone, they edit around it to create the attraction....music, romantic dates, showing kissing, etc. For me, at this point in time the only ones he is into are Lyndsay and Michaela. Everyone else is MOT including Jessie who is another person they are pushing somewhat now....even though to me they are like buddies.

The difference that I personally see between his edited attraction to Lyndsay and Michaela is that the stuff that I see with Michaela is stuff I have seen numerous times with numerous leads and numerous contestants....kiss against a wall, fireworks, etc. The things that I have seen with Lyndsay is very specific to her only. The hands prints on her butt, grabbing her to pull her back to him to kiss him as they are walking to go talk somewhere, the sheer frustration because she is younger than he wants. Those speak to me of spontaneity and were left in the edit to tell their story, where as the other seems more manufactured to create the effect that producers want.

IMO, the only thing this tells me is he is very physically attracted to her. I could also make a case for things that were specific to Brittany and she's gone now. He has also said and done things with Mikaela that are specific to her. In the very last episode no less. Does it only count when it's Lyndsey...

ahem....

can anyone check mikaela but and tell me if she has a clean but or if he put his hands there





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Sprite wrote:

BlackHalo wrote:

Sprite wrote:I don't think it matters if a conflict is fabricated or not. To me what matters is that there is one. If they don't have one....yes, they manufacture something stupid, but if they have a built in one, then they go with that.

Similarly if a lead is attracted to someone great. They will show that or parts of that, but if the lead isn't into someone, they edit around it to create the attraction....music, romantic dates, showing kissing, etc. For me, at this point in time the only ones he is into are Lyndsay and Michaela. Everyone else is MOT including Jessie who is another person they are pushing somewhat now....even though to me they are like buddies.

The difference that I personally see between his edited attraction to Lyndsay and Michaela is that the stuff that I see with Michaela is stuff I have seen numerous times with numerous leads and numerous contestants....kiss against a wall, fireworks, etc. The things that I have seen with Lyndsay is very specific to her only. The hands prints on her butt, grabbing her to pull her back to him to kiss him as they are walking to go talk somewhere, the sheer frustration because she is younger than he wants. Those speak to me of spontaneity and were left in the edit to tell their story, where as the other seems more manufactured to create the effect that producers want.

IMO, the only thing this tells me is he is very physically attracted to her. I could also make a case for things that were specific to Brittany and she's gone now. He has also said and done things with Mikaela that are specific to her. In the very last episode no less. Does it only count when it's Lyndsey...

Yes, it tells me he is very physically attracted to her and since pretty much most of the Bachelors choose based on physical attraction it is significant IMO. While he made out with Brittany, I thought most of that was instigated by her and he was going along because...well, he enjoyed it and it is his job. At no time did I think he was seriously interested in Brittany. Just the same way that I pretty much dismiss his growing relationship with Jessie.

Can you please refresh me of what has he done that is specific to Michaela? With him I am ignoring his verbal diarrhea since he says pretty much the same stuff with everyone.

BlackHalo wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

BlackHalo wrote:

IMO, there really hasn't been any suspense? Everyone has been overlooked due to his physical attraction with Lyndsey and more recently Brittany. I'm anxious to see how Chris' interactions with the women change moving forward though.

And again, the obstacle thing really only makes sense to me when it is something that the producers have manipulated to cast doubt on the F1. I don't see that being the case with Lyndsey. It is a legit obstacle and legit reason why she and Chris may not end up together. JMO.

The point is, it's still an obstacle and that has been typically the F1 MO.  What's the obstacle with Mikaela....none that I see - fabricated or not.

We'll have to agree to disagree. And not every F1 has an obstacle. There are outliers. An obstacle does not tell me Lyndsey is F1. It just doesn't. JMO.

Aunties_Love wrote:

BlackHalo wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
The point is, it's still an obstacle and that has been typically the F1 MO.  What's the obstacle with Mikaela....none that I see - fabricated or not.

We'll have to agree to disagree. And not every F1 has an obstacle. There are outliers. An obstacle does not tell me Lyndsey is F1. It just doesn't. JMO.

Can you show us which one in the Canadian Franchise doesn't have an obstacle??  I think we need to stick to the Canadian one as that is the one that we are talking about right now.

Season 1 Bianka:  Her obstacle was the cheating angle and if she can get over Brad dating the other women
Season 2 April:  Her obstacle was the pressure of the show, jealousy and how there are others there.  She threatened to leave at around HTD's
Bachette 1 Kevin:  His obstacle was the jealousy and whether she was actually going to choose him in the end.


So as you can see from the Canadian franchise aspect, ALL seasons had obstacles.

Aunties_Love wrote:@richmondrose, I was looking at your filming timeline.  Main question though.....why would they have a HTD RC if there was no one going home there.  IMO, we are looking more like the original one that I did but I could be wrong with that and the timing.  I was making that with the possibility of getting an extra day off between DR and HTD's??