Bachelorette Australia - Season 4 - Ali Oetjen - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Dirty Street Pie wrote:@AllAboutLove can I post about something I've read on a closed Bach fan Facebook group? It's about Charlie, and what he's telling people about his placement.

wishing I had Facebook right now.

Bobette wrote:

Dirty Street Pie wrote:@AllAboutLove can I post about something I've read on a closed Bach fan Facebook group? It's about Charlie, and what he's telling people about his placement.

wishing I had Facebook right now.

Open a Facebook account only for sleuthing, use just a fun name like 'Lady Bond 007'  That way if you write a comment there we know that is you

Remember anything private from a private account, page or group can't be posted here. If one is told something, heard something etc and not revealing a source then that can be stated as such. 

Speaking of which, anyone/lurkers reading and have any inside info feel free to PM me if you don't want to post and your anonymity will be assured 

So, what I’ve heard is that Charlie is telling people that he walks out at F4 because he knew he was going to win, and he wasn’t really into Ali that much, which IMO is BS. 
If he walks at F4, IMO it’s for the opposite reason, and he realises that he ISN’T going to be F1, so he walks because his massive alpha sized ego couldn’t cope with not being F1

Dirty Street Pie wrote:So, what I’ve heard is that Charlie is telling people that he walks out at F4 because he knew he was going to win, and he wasn’t really into Ali that much, which IMO is BS. 

If he walks at F4, IMO it’s for the opposite reason, and he realises that he ISN’T going to be F1, so he walks because his massive alpha sized ego couldn’t cope with not being F1

OOooo ITA and can definitely see Charlie leave on his own - it's such a Charlie thing to do   Have a hissy-fit and all. The man (using that term loosely) is such an ego lip-licking creep imo he'd definitely be leaving if he knows he isn't going to win   If anyone was on the show just to "win" it is Charlie and it's hilarious to me that he thinks he was going to win

Also makes sense why he's with Dasha now and the paps conveniently there for staged impromptu pics   Totally something he'd do imo to try make it seem like he walked for any other reason than realizing he was a loser   Imo he's a loser not just character-wise (his poor son he has nothing to do with per his choice) but also in the sense of not winning and not having a shot at being Bachelor either. He knew this imo and is just trying to save face now  jmo

Vogue wrote:

Bobette wrote:

Dirty Street Pie wrote:@AllAboutLove can I post about something I've read on a closed Bach fan Facebook group? It's about Charlie, and what he's telling people about his placement.

wishing I had Facebook right now.

Open a Facebook account only for sleuthing, use just a fun name like 'Lady Bond 007'  That way if you write a comment there we know that is you

OT, but even if you don’t have Facebook for your normal life, it’s well worth having a fakey to see some of the batshit stuff that comes out in the groups. In the aftermath of Nicks season the Sippy Cup was posting definitions of cyberbullying and getting stuck into people who were having a laugh at the expense of the family meal ticket, so she got kicked out of the group    And every so often a friend or family member will show up and abuse everyone and accuse them of having no lives, and everyone laughs at them, it’s pretty funny. Or maybe I’m just really childish?

Also I think Bill must be in the Final 4 and Charlie just can't accept that Bill may get a rose and he doesn't. So he walk!! Sore loser.

I thought Dasha has better taste in men or just using Charlie for more public exposure.

Enough wrote:Also I think Bill must be in the Final 4 and Charlie just can't accept that Bill may get a rose and he doesn't. So he walk!! Sore loser.

I thought Dasha has better taste in men or just using Charlie for more public exposure.

  IA with all of this. I think Charlie and Dasha have a showmance that's fake. I saw bts videos of them at the swimwear event and other than when someone took photos of them together they didn't even talk to each other and were on their phones. Looked more like strangers just sitting next to each other  

OTOH, if Charlie doesn't eliminate himself at F4 and ends up in F3 (he currently has more SCs than Bill which is why I could see that happening) then I bet Charlie was thinking he was better than Bill only to be eliminated anyway  I could see him playing the "well I was going to leave anyway" excuse even then.

 I'll have to see more screencaps to determine if he leaves or if he is eliminated and if so if it's F4 or F3

Everything for me is saying Taite as F1, except for his entrance in Ep 1 which was very similar to Matty J's entrance. Todd got the glamourous entrance (well as glamourous as you can be in a plastic suit of armour)... it's making me wonder whether sportsbet are playing games - is it illegal for them to have a non-favourite as the favourite knowing that they will get more bets from it and therefore more money due to previous season trends ousting the winner?

IA @Spangler The short red carpet entrance of Taite is definitely not a typical F1 thing. It's been discussed about Sportsbet playing games possibly but I am not sure if they would this season especially after Nick's where people who bet felt played already by the ending and SB.

I do think Taite is F1 and I think the focus for Todd first ep was to lay the groundwork for him as F2 and the FRC where Ali is sobbing and so a push for Todd like MattyJ had so to have him in the forefront from the beginning as he and Taite would have a later start in the season so a way to get him in the audiences mind early because of that FRC reaction of Ali's imo letting Todd go.

Because Taite and Todd are mid-season frontrunners they're different from early frontrunners Lee/Sasha/F1 who were early on contenders compared to their F2s. This season it's more believable I'd think that this could be a two-horse race rather than the typical one-horse race. The F2/runner up would thus think they'd have as much a chance as the F1 (and even more of a chance to win than past F2s), especially since the early frontrunners (Charlie and Rob) won't be in the finale and Todd would get the closest headstart this show has had for a F1 and F2 both getting their SDs within days of each other.

Hey guys, I am speculating that Rob is revealing here in this interview at least 3 of the top 4...Charlie being in doubt for me. This seems to support our inferences too

https://punkee.com.au/bachelorette-robert-exit-interview/60064

Popcorn For All wrote:Hey guys, I am speculating that Rob is revealing here in this interview at least 3 of the top 4...Charlie being in doubt for me. This seems to support our inferences too

https://punkee.com.au/bachelorette-robert-exit-interview/60064

@Popcorn For All nice find   IA, definitely thinking Taite, Todd, and Bill for F3  

“I don’t know the result myself, it’s a tough one. She’s got a lot of energy with Bill, Taite and Todd. Charlie seems to be digging his own grave, it’s a tough one to pick.”