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Post by suzq Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:11 pm

@Sharnee Me, too! NYC seems to fit him for now. Who knows for how long?

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:14 pm

suzq wrote:@Sharnee   Me, too!  NYC seems to fit him for now.  Who knows for how long?

I’m thinking it may fit Hannah too giggling

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Post by Astrobach Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:17 pm

@sdmom in regards to Hannah coming back from Greece, everyone ( discussed here) seemed to think that they all came back that Monday. ( the last couple and maybe F1and F2 as is traditional. ) JMO
And I doubt that Jed would openly confess about Haley right after getting  engaged...he may have ‘ alluded’ of someone in vague terms, but even that would be more than I expect from his sorry self. Why ruin a great vacation...?
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Post by blueblues Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:18 pm

notarose wrote:
Doggoneit wrote:I don't know if it has been discussed here or not, but have any of the guys expressed an opinion on Jed having a girlfriend and coming on the show?

I suddenly like Grant a lot less. Upset
I get that he was defending a friend, but throwing around “fabricated story”, “fake news” and even “this Haley girl” in that condescending tone when he knew nothing about what was true or not just makes him look like total jackazz.
I wonder how he feels about it now.

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Post by Astrobach Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:25 pm

Wow! What a jerk! Get your info right Bro before you say stupid stuff... he’s talking to a People’s journalist and implies that this is fake news...
Very condescending , not a good look...he’s gonna regret this on MTA!
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Post by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:28 pm

Jokes on him Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2 - Page 51 3806527698 Shows how Good Jed is at deceiving :yes:

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Post by alwayscooking Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:38 pm

sdmom wrote:@Astrobach just saw your recap of RS podcast. Thanks!

I have questions about
1. How did Patrick know about Haley and follow her on May 13? No one has shared her name publicly at that time yet, right? Could it be possible Jed told Hannah about her? Could it be after FRC when Jed told Hannah about her?

FRC was reported on May 10. Iirc,  Hannah alluded in her GMA interview she was back to the states on May 13? Can anyone confirm this? Is it possible their time in Greece was shortened because of his confession? IF that’s true, it explains why many of us suspected she didn’t look happy.
Just my speculation.

2. The SHV in Nashville: did RS say it’s a SHV? IF there’s one, I think it’s unsanctioned and very short, because Hannah left pretty quickly?

We need a timeline, IMO, for those who want to track after-filming activities. I will defer to @guardianangel which thread will be the best place to post.

RS said in his podcast that he is pretty certain that Jed didn't mention Haley to Hannah until after filming wrapped, and that he probably downplayed their relationship. When Haley brought up seeing Jed at the CMA fest RS then said "I can tell you right now at the end of that night he went and saw Hannah" He also said "that was one of their happy couple visits, they definitely saw each other at CMA fest" It starts at about the 1:03:15 mark
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Post by Lucas15 Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:39 pm

ReneeM wrote:
sdmom wrote:I have questions about
1. How did Patrick know about Haley and follow her on May 13? No one has shared her name publicly at that time yet, right? Could it be possible Jed told Hannah about her? Could it be after FRC when Jed told Hannah about her?
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1) Hannah said in multiple interviews that first week that she got back on Monday (May 13th). Patrick’s gf lives in Nashville. Based on the comments of people who live in Nashville on the bachelor subreddit, I think the gf thing might've been out there. One person on reddit claimed they heard about it in their church group. I wonder if the gf might’ve heard rumours and that’s how Patrick got the heads up.

Haley also mentioned that in addition to Patrick's "follow" which kind of creeped her out, she was also getting requests from others asking for comments and she engaged a lawyer and a PR firm to advise her what to do. (Ironically probably one request for a comment came from RS himself as IIRC he did mention contacting her but not hearing anything back.) They advised her to go to People as the most reputable tabloid. She did and that resulted in the first widely known article.

Kelly Keegs was also someone digging for information. She recorded this blog (caution - crude language here) with her comments right around the airing of episode and in it she talks about both Jed and Luke P and the information she was told.

I agree with ReneeM that even though Haley and Jed did not put pictures on their SM about their relationship, there also couldn't completely hide it and multiple people seem to have gotten wind of it.

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:40 pm

@alwayscooking Jedoosh is a piece of work if so.

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Post by ilovecarbs Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:48 pm

Astrobach wrote:@GuardianAngel I second the timeline thread , I wanted to suggest that too, but felt it would be nixed...
@ReneeM about 1. Yes, that’s is my take as well, Patrick’s GF living in Nashville would have heard rumors amongst the music circle and maybe their church as well...
About 2. I listened to yesterday and he clearly said they saw each other after Haley had seen him at the bar playing that night or that day. He called it a Happy couple visit, and didn’t specify if it was sanctioned or not ... But there was a post o Reddit that Hannah was wearing a wig ...and they were meeting in a cabin outside Nashville.
Hope that helps.
ETA Friday June 7th. Is the time as we know Hannah left Saturday afternoon. I wrote it in the breakdown.
i find it hard to believe patrick did not know about hayley by the he went to greece. he sees himself as hannah’s protector. his girlfriend lives in nashville. i don’t know the exact timeline but it sounds as though hayley’s name or st least the existence of a girlfriend for Jed came up early when the men were announced. he didn’t look into his sister’s final four for her? he didn’t ask his girlfriend to find out about jed?  makes no sense to me.

it seems more likely that he heard the rumor before going to mtp and it got confirmed by jed while there. so when he came back he followed her. it might explain why he and his family did not follow jed right away. this follow of patrick’s and jed’s silence while hayley makes the rounds indicates to me that it comes up on the show. the whole situation with scott could have been set up for drama with jed at the end too rather than after the show. i know hannah did interviews in which she says she didn’t know of other girlfriends but it is not like she can say yes. this is just my opinion and speculation only.

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Post by Astrobach Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:54 pm

Lucas15 wrote:
ReneeM wrote:
sdmom wrote:I have questions about
1. How did Patrick know about Haley and follow her on May 13? No one has shared her name publicly at that time yet, right? Could it be possible Jed told Hannah about her? Could it be after FRC when Jed told Hannah about her?
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1) Hannah said in multiple interviews that first week that she got back on Monday (May 13th). Patrick’s gf lives in Nashville. Based on the comments of people who live in Nashville on the bachelor subreddit, I think the gf thing might've been out there. One person on reddit claimed they heard about it in their church group. I wonder if the gf might’ve heard rumours and that’s how Patrick got the heads up.

Haley also mentioned that in addition to Patrick's "follow" which kind of creeped her out, she was also getting requests from others asking for comments and she engaged a lawyer and a PR firm to advise her what to do. (Ironically probably one request for a comment came from RS himself as IIRC he did mention contacting her but not hearing anything back.) They advised her to go to People as the most reputable tabloid. She did and that resulted in the first widely known article.

Kelly Keegs was also someone digging for information. She recorded this blog (caution - crude language here) with her comments right around the airing of episode and in it she talks about both Jed and Luke P and the information she was told.

I agree with ReneeM that even though Haley and Jed did not put pictures on their SM about their relationship, there also couldn't completely hide it and multiple people seem to have gotten wind of it.

Yes, that is what I think, but only afterfilming was over did it reach a rumor status. That is why I still maintain that TPTB DIDNT know about her. It would have been SO illogical...
Remember that 2 other women contacted them about Joey and when they were asked to come to Rhode Island and film à confrontation with Joey, they backed down. They chose to expose him with ALL the receipts with RS instead. So by that logic, they would have LOVED to expose Jed with Haley right in the script.
Jed played them ALL dirty. IMO.
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Post by BlackHalo Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:55 pm

I can a scenario where Patrick knew but didn't bring it up because he trusted Hannah's judgement and also, Jed and Tyler in the final 2 and she picks Jed? Most find this hard to believe but it happened. He's probably thought she was picking Tyler just like everyone else. JMO. no idea

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