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Bachelor In Paradise - Season 3 - All Episodes - Discussions - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3

I just don't see the question of Caila's trustworthiness existing in isolation from everything else that has happened. Yes, Caila told Ashley that she wouldn't go on BIP. This was also initially said when Caila was dating someone else and had no intention of going on the show. Ashley and Caila had met a couple of times in person, and Ashley knew (she has written about this extensively) that the only person Jared liked from the franchise was Caila. Ashley said that this made Caila her only competition. Now you can say that Caila went against her word, and Caila has apologized to Ashley for doing so. And if Ashley still doesn't want to be her friend or trust her then that's her prerogative. But for the rest of the cast to seemingly base Caila's character on this interaction is wrong IMO. I also question why should someone uphold a promise that was based on being manipulated?

I think Ashley befriended Caila specifically for the purpose of stopping her from going on the show. I don't think Ashley had a right to ask Caila in the first place, and I think Caila had the right to change her mind. I don't even think Ashley's main issue with Caila is that she broke the #girlcode (see how little she cared about Emily or Jubilee). IMO Ashley's issue has and always will be that Jared liked Caila. Ashley's manipulations didn't work out for her, and it probably still frustrates her to this day. That's just my perspective. Caila has said that she did make mistakes, and she has owned them. She apologized to Ashley saying that she just wanted to get to know Jared and she didn't want to hurt anyone. I don't think Caila is perfect or without fault. She's human just like everyone else. But the treatment she has received for deciding to go on the show and meet Jared is disgustingly disproportionate to the apparent offence. Ashley being upset would've been understandable. Ashley bullying Caila relentlessly is not. And again, why is Caila not sticking to what she first said any worse than Ashley having manipulated the situation in the first place? I see Ashley as having been untrustworthy and that she has broken the #girlcode many times over through her behaviour. Mistakes were definitely made, but it's only Ashley who has continued to make them and taken zero responsibility. That's more indicative of who is trustworthy to me. All JMO.
by siena
on Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:23 pm
 
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Caila Quinn - BIP - Season 3 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Yeah @SunnyRachel TPTB have done a pretty manipulative job in how they've decided to edit Caila's storyline IMO. The constant talk about Caila being "fake" when you've got Emily talking behind her back (someone she was meant to be friends with #girlcode) and you have AshleyI idolizing KimK and wanting to make a career in reality tv based on crying obsessively over a guy. And somehow they're seen as "real" by people  question .  

The way they've promoted the Jaila drama too is interesting. IMO they seem to be trying to make Caila look like she's going to hurt Jared, and have downplayed how Caila feels in all of this (we see a lot more of Ashley talking to the camera explaining her feelings instead IMO). I guess we'll see how it plays out but I would've definitely walked too! Maybe that's why the producers don't have a problem with throwing Caila under the bus. She actually stood up for herself and left their manufactured drama behind.
by siena
on Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:18 pm
 
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Bachelor In Paradise - Season 3 - All Episodes - Discussions - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

Yes, I think the only way either of them will be able move forward in life is if they just cut ties. If they don't, any significant other in their lives is going be hurt and that's not fair to them either.

AshleyI is 28 now, and unfortunately at a time when she should be growing she's kind of regressed. I think the drama with Jared has become a key component in her life. The fact that people praise her for her dramatics seems to just make her even more delusional. I can understand the emotions when you have unrequited love, but I don't have any sympathy for the way she's chosen to behave. When I step back from the situation it truly looks like she knew from the beginning that Jared liked Caila the most and set out to make sure they never met. She even admitted to Nick that she didn't think anyone else was a threat to her except Caila. So AshleyI hangs out with Caila a few times and during one of those meet ups she tells Caila that she should not meet Jared or go on BIP because he will like her. Now at this point in the story it's so clear to me who the person in the wrong is, but it's fascinating to see that it's being flipped to make Caila seem like a bad friend. #girlcode  Rolling Eyes

IMO AshleyI befriended someone who she viewed as her only competition for Jared and manipulated her to promise she won't go on BIP. She expected her plan to work, and it's kind of beautiful that it didn't. Now we're seeing her try to come out on top by trashing Caila's reputation, but I feel like people who can see how truly manipulative AshleyI was towards Caila in the first place won't fall for it. "You can be my friend, but just so you know you need to promise you'll never meet Jared or go on BIP, okay."  Suspect  no no  All JMO.
by siena
on Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:19 pm
 
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Bachelor In Paradise - Season 3 - All Episodes - Discussions - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

Diana wrote:And Leah cares so much about #GirlCode right...

same reason she threw Lauren under the bus and lied to her about it right? Rolling Eyes


Yep. Super rich coming from Leah of all people. She's a piece of work.
by sosleepy
on Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:12 am
 
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Bachelor In Paradise - Season 3 - All Episodes - Discussions - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

And Leah cares so much about #GirlCode right...

same reason she threw Lauren under the bus and lied to her about it right? Rolling Eyes
by Diana
on Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:09 am
 
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