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Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #9

IMO, I think "whore" is a really bad word. It's degrading and awful and based on the post above, it sounds like he didn't just use it in regarding to her sleeping with #25. That said, my opinion of Josh was already pretty low, so to me, none of what Andi has said is particularly surprising (outside of the work thing).

And Famously Single starts next month, so I say "wait and see" before we say that Josh took the high road. Because I'm sure part of the reason he was cast was for the dirt on the breakup, so I doubt E! will let him get away with saying nothing at all.

Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #9

You mean {#}25{/#} GA?

Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #6

sosleepy wrote:
Beach Lover wrote:Yikes! That is a little too much detail about their pillow talk. Really low class to bring that up. I wonder how #25 feels about that being out there now?

Pretty "below the belt, I'd say."

I agree with whoever said Nick might even like it though. A little more noteriety. And honestly, I think FAME is what he is after these days above all else.

hahahaha. love the reference sosleep!
Nick may be after FAME, but not at the expense of someone else. IMO.

Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #6

Beach Lover wrote:Yikes! That is a little too much detail about their pillow talk. Really low class to bring that up. I wonder how #25 feels about that being out there now?

Again, if you believe it... remember it's only one side of the story.
He may have said something about f*cking vs. making love but out of context... who knows??
I give Nick the benefit of the doubt. IMO, he's only shown himself to be classy and respectful.

Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #6

Beach Lover wrote:Yikes! That is a little too much detail about their pillow talk. Really low class to bring that up. I wonder how #25 feels about that being out there now?

Pretty "below the belt, I'd say."

I agree with whoever said Nick might even like it though. A little more noteriety. And honestly, I think FAME is what he is after these days above all else.

Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #6

Yikes! That is a little too much detail about their pillow talk. Really low class to bring that up. I wonder how #25 feels about that being out there now?

Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #9

If he said that right there and then I would have walk right up to him and told him the truth. Along with telling him to decide if he want to stay engage or leave. Lying to keep a man is not a good move, she was exploring all relationship once the relationship steps to an engagement then that is different in my eyes because the real relationship starts there. She waited until 2 weeks before the fantasy date air to tell him she sleep with Nick bad move and a manipulation choice too.

Say what you will, but the bachelorette that comes after her own her poop before the show was over right there and then, only she made it look like {#}25{/#} who was the one who push her to it when we all see that as untrue. Both bachelorette 10 and 11 are trash, they blame any and everybody for their flipping bad behaviour. At least {#}11{/#} seems to be moving on, I just wish {#}10{/#} would do something worth while with her life other than being a bitter bitch. Damn it gets tiring.

One thing I respect bachelorette {#}9{/#} for is she layed everything out for her final 1 before an engagement so he make his choice knowing what did in deed happen, how she was feeling throughout the experiment and how she reach her final decision. She is 100 steps above {#}10{/#}

Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #6

With the information we have now, it gives slightly different perspective on the {#}25{/#} ATFR scene. Your ex bringing up sex with you on national television isn't fun no matter what, but since she was already in hot water for the exact same thing with the fiancé she now needs to pretend everything is A-OK with, it must have been horrifying.
Now we know that Andi actually doesn't care what intimate details of her sex life are public knowledge, she just had a problem with her getting busted again.
She should never have said "some things should be kept private", she should have owned up to it, "yes, we were intimate, but that was part of the process for me, and the process lead me to fall in love with someone else, who i want to spend my life with, bla bla" just spin it in a way that doesn't make you look like a complete hypocrit, you're a lawyer for God's sake

Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #6

For me it's mainly her hypocrisy (combined with her emasculating shrewish personality). She was all about how #25 should keep their FS sex private and how it was classless of him to kiss and tell but it's just fine and dandy for her to make a buck with her tell-all about #26 getting it up and #25's f-bombs during their "supposed to remain private" sex. I don't know, perhaps in her mind it's okay for women to kiss and tell but men have to remain gentleman. I just know I can't stand or respect feminists like her. With that said, I don't wish her any ill will. Just am not and never will be a fan and I feel perfectly fine preferring Courtney over her for all the reasons already stated in here.

All JMO.

Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #9

I really can't stand either of these idiots. I still find it funny how accurately #25 described them in that phone call on the plane.

How stupid do you have to be to lie about something that big? I get that she might've panicked, but it was gonna come out eventually and you just can't start a relationship under false pretenses. That never works. She's unbelievably immature for her age. That said, staying in a relationship where you can't trust the other person is also idiotic and no one forced Josh to do that. Obviously there's more pressure than usual with this show though, since it's such a public relationship.

Did I get this right that Andi implied Josh didn't want her to go back to work? I thought he was making those tense faces everytime she brought it up because he knew she was lying about wanting to go back to being a lawyer. Was it really because he didn't want her to or was it because he didn't want her to start whatever new "career" she was dreaming of at the time? If someone reads this wreck then please clarify.

Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #9

sosleepy wrote:I think she had every right as The Bachelorette to sleep with #25. That's what both she and #26 signed up for. He was in no place - as a contestant- to demand she not or to call her a whore over it. That's just yuck. If he can't handle it, well, there is the door. That being said, why on God's green earth did she lie about it? Andi, you are on film. What a dumba$$ move. The minute she lied, they were doomed. And THAT Josh had every right to be angry and upset about, not that she actually explored a relationship with #25. Lots of leads have feelings for/do things with other contestants. Des, Kaitlyn and Ben are 3 recent leads who all understood and knew that they had to be brutally honest from the ready. And what do you know? All of their respective F1's were, as a result, able to trust and move on. Stupid Andi. Dumb move.

I agree with this all. Any lead is allowed to explore all the relationships they build on the show, and not get trashed for it. That is the premise of the show. The lead however owes it to their F1 to tell them what went on during the show, not lie about it. Telling the truth doesn't necessarily have to happen during the show, but as soon as the cameras go off, the F1 deserves honesty. Jmo.

Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #6

It would be interesting to hear the other side of the stories.

@Georgia Lindsay wrote:
Well, from this glimpse of the magazine article, I think so. It shows #25 & #1 labeled "Fantasy Suite Fails" with their pictures, I wish I could read the print beside #25's name. This woman has no morals or ethics whatsoever. no no

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFRuFokOQZr/

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