The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Epi 9 - July 25th - FS - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

northernviewer wrote:I ended up watching Fantasy Suite portions and noticed a few things to compare on both morning after scenes.   Robbies portion was filmed in the actual bed and the food was laid out at the foot of it...and the bed looked slept in but not necessarily "slept in" and her hair was in a messy bun, she had on a housecoat over her pj's and she basically looked well rested.   The morning after with Jordan ...they showed them leaving the bedroom and eatig in living room ... I couldnt help but wonder if bedroom was too messy??  Jojo's hair was nicely brushed and left loose and she looked sleepy, like she didnt get much rest but she did look content.  

I noticed that too! JoJo was ready to leave "ok i'm leaving to get dressed" or whatever she said. Total difference then how she was morning after with Jordan. Which was no surprise.

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nd4reality wrote:

MiniDiva wrote:The average man would grow weary of the inquisition and would see red flags with the woman he is dating who is constantly at it  -  Jordon is going to get frustrated with her if she keeps it up.

I would not be surprised if she merely slept in the same bed as Robby and talked into the wee hours without cameras.   This could all be for show and the story line of being in love with two men.  Jordon and her looked like a real couple, morning after.

JMO

True both points.

If she keeps it up he will walk but he will be blamed for it. IMO.

He's in the homestretch now!! Keep going, Baddy!

It's true, it would be understandable to be weary of the doubt and inquisitions but I said something similar in the Fan thread. Jordan isn't dumb and he can see how difficult this process is period, and how hard it is on Jo specifically. He must see a future with her or be willing to give it a real shot or he would be gone imo. Even Chase said how hard the process must be the next day to her.

MiniDiva wrote:The average man would grow weary of the inquisition and would see red flags with the woman he is dating who is constantly at it  -  Jordon is going to get frustrated with her if she keeps it up.

I would not be surprised if she merely slept in the same bed as Robby and talked into the wee hours without cameras.   This could all be for show and the story line of being in love with two men.  Jordon and her looked like a real couple, morning after.

JMO

I can see this too. She was so happy after spending the night with Robby. Meanwhile, she was so teary and on the verge of crying leaving BBJ, and that's how I expect our girl to act after sleeping with someone and not getting in all her cuddling/affection for like 26 hours after. She's a handful  

As for the questioning, she needs to decide what to do. Either she's going to push him away finally or she's going to choose him, commit and choose to believe him, but as @Ash2214, she needs to stop the in between insanity. It's exhausting for everyone involved.

Yes IA with you all, it would be frustrating and exhausting to all involved.... But because of her past bad relationships, the fact that after 2 1/2 months of gruelling filming and emotional ups and downs, she's finally going to be engaged with her hopefully forever after. I can see why her nerves are frazzled and she is scared out of her wits. I feel sick to my stomach for her. Fortunately for me  it's over and she seems happy from what SM says. We'll soon see.  

I think just as Ben should have kept his I love you's to himself even if he was feeling it....Jojo should have kept some of doubtful comments to herself or only spoke them in PI's. .... Especially the "thats what Ben said " one.

An average guy will get exasperated with Jojo. In the real world, where fake Jordan is still Aaron's brother, with many girls fawning over him ready to throw themselves at him, needy Jojo will be exasperating.

She's no different from the Jojo we saw desperately begging Ben for validation in the bathroom on the floor.  Someone needing such approval and validation constantly is textbook narcissistic! JMO

All that behavior Jojo showed where she had two 2on1 dates in order to discard men like wilted fries, she kept Alex only to drop him in the middle of the date, letting Luke go after such a picture perfect date and dropping Chase after accepting the FS card is like dangling a carrot stick and taking it all away, which is cruel. I really don't see an empathetic Jojo that everyone talks about other than her emotional breakdown. But that's probably just a manifestation of her unconscious feeling of being trampled on by her ex after getting a high of doing that to someone. JMO

SarahD wrote:An average guy will get exasperated with Jojo. In the real world, where fake Jordan is still Aaron's brother, with many girls fawning over him ready to throw themselves at him, needy Jojo will be exasperating.

She's no different from the Jojo we saw desperately begging Ben for validation in the bathroom on the floor.  Someone needing such approval and validation constantly is textbook narcissistic! JMO

All that behavior Jojo showed where she had two 2on1 dates in order to discard men like wilted fries, she kept Alex only to drop him in the middle of the date, letting Luke go after such a picture perfect date and dropping Chase after accepting the FS card is like dangling a carrot stick and taking it all away, which is cruel. I really don't see an empathetic Jojo that everyone talks about other than her emotional breakdown. But that's probably just a manifestation of her unconscious feeling of being trampled on by her ex after getting a high of doing that to someone. JMO

You mention the real world and how an average guy would get exasperated with JoJo, but as you mentioned, this show isn't the real world and perhaps JoJo isn't like that in her real world relationship. IMO.

Being needy doesn't mean you're narcissistic IMO. Usually, especially for women, it just means you're insecure. Welcome to the world of women. Sad reality.

IMO.

I wanted to say I enjoyed posting with you all last night. ; ) I'm interested in seeing what all they have to say to Chad tonight.

GuardianAngel wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:F3 always gets the monkey shots

F2 in Lindsey in Sean's season got the monkeys on the beach in Thailand, I thought.

Catching up. @Aunties_Love

I don't remember that, but I was thinking Kaitlyn had monkey's and now Chase had monkeys.

Just out of curiosity, who was the contestant on a date with I think Ashley, that was sitting on a bench and a dog came along and peed on their balloon? Sorry, can't remember exact details. Just wondering if that was a F3 as well.

Here's this for ya GA!

GuardianAngel wrote:Right! Another F3 gets an animal in their FS epi!

OT - BTW he's happily married to a gorgeous girl and they have a baby girl named Olive who if IRC was born around the same time as Fordy.

Here's stats for you all for the F1's RC order from the episode before HTD's to the FD's  IMO, it's not an ABSOLUTE 100% pattern, but there are more seasons with the F1 getting their rose 2nd during the FD rc than not.